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Postby zan » Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:35 am

Aw! Don't go...I just got my second wind..
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Postby zan » Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:41 am

Looks like I will have to take an indegestion tablet and go to bed......Wait.......BrrrrrrrrrTTTTTTTTT! Ah! Thats better. Will somebody open a window.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:12 am

zan wrote:Looks like I will have to take an indegestion tablet and go to bed......Wait.......BrrrrrrrrrTTTTTTTTT! Ah! Thats better. Will somebody open a window.

They don’t have windows in asylum cells Zanny so I guess you’ll spend the rest of the evening with your newfound friend…
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Postby zan » Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:18 am

Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:Looks like I will have to take an indegestion tablet and go to bed......Wait.......BrrrrrrrrrTTTTTTTTT! Ah! Thats better. Will somebody open a window.

They don’t have windows in asylum cells Zanny so I guess you’ll spend the rest of the evening with your newfound friend…
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Chimera has left and I will see the warden about getting you some windows. Is there anything else I can get you????Cigarettes..TC blood???Anything???
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Postby Chimera » Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:10 am

zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:Looks like I will have to take an indegestion tablet and go to bed......Wait.......BrrrrrrrrrTTTTTTTTT! Ah! Thats better. Will somebody open a window.

They don’t have windows in asylum cells Zanny so I guess you’ll spend the rest of the evening with your newfound friend…
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Chimera has left and I will see the warden about getting you some windows. Is there anything else I can get you????Cigarettes..TC blood???Anything???


Whaaaattt, whose friend! :twisted:

All the bloody Turk did, was give me a soap box, now I am embroiled in treason!

I knew it, this is how they work, trickery and subterfuge, and stabs in the back.
Never trust a bloody Turk again, never accept soap boxes.
Bloody Turk! Now I have to wash my mouth out with soap. Yuk.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:59 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
bigOz wrote:KOCCINA AND THE VILLAGES COULD NOT POSSIBLY HAVE BEEN, AND WERE NEVER AN ENTRY POINT FOR ANY TURKISH SOLDIERS OR ARMS FOR THE REST OF THE TURKISH ENCLAVES ON THE ISLAND. Anyone who will argue the contrary is a total liar trying to justify their merciless attack against the TCs carried out in the area.

Kokkina was the ONLY SEA PORT accessible to the Turkish Cypriots, and at a very convenient location just across from Turkey, and that's why the TC's with the aid of Turkey fiercely resisted its surrender.

There simply was no other way TCs could smuggle weapons in Cyprus as all airports were controlled by GCs and here's some evidence of boat arms smuggling activity no doubt heading for Kokkina as there was nowhere else for the boat to go...

http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Navy.htm


Ok GR I'll pretend to be your sacraficial lamb :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol:

You have a go at us for putting up proof and then you say that they are from Turkish propaganda sites and then you post complete rubbish from a Greek propaganda site.. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Happy now.

Why don't you just put signs up where ever you lay traps. "This way for all gullible Turks" or something like that.

You are so full of yourself that you only fool your self. :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

My goodness! What have I done to deserve all this? :lol:

The Deniz incident is well known and documented because the British were involved. Here's another account of it...

In this connection an incident occurred in October 1959, which strained to the limits the efforts of Makarios and Kutchuk to retain intercommunal goodwill—the interception by a British naval patrol of a Turkish motorboat, the Deniz, off the Karpass peninsular carrying large quantities of arms and ammunition. The Deniz incident and the dramatic failure of Kutchuk’s appeal for the Turkish Cypriots to cooperate in a subsequent arms collection, confirmed that TMT were in control in the Turkish community and that the Turks intended to arm, rather than disarm, for security.

http://www.cyprus-conflict.net/municipa ... rkides.htm



I promise the Deniz incident had nothing to do with me.


But the TMT was arming, so what Plenty of water has gone under the bridge since then. With so many arms in GC hands what was the big deal. What is everybody trying to prove? If any amount of arms got through it was these that prevented our annihilation in 1963. Why keep on churning up old issues. With todays climate it is all pointless.
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Very true Deniz from Aksu :wink: but we are just discussing here trying to learn and exchange information.



Thats true as well. But we must not forget that the RoC also imported plenty arms legally and illegally as well during that period.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:03 am

Chimera wrote:
zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:Looks like I will have to take an indegestion tablet and go to bed......Wait.......BrrrrrrrrrTTTTTTTTT! Ah! Thats better. Will somebody open a window.

They don’t have windows in asylum cells Zanny so I guess you’ll spend the rest of the evening with your newfound friend…
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Chimera has left and I will see the warden about getting you some windows. Is there anything else I can get you????Cigarettes..TC blood???Anything???


Whaaaattt, whose friend! :twisted:

All the bloody Turk did, was give me a soap box, now I am embroiled in treason!

I knew it, this is how they work, trickery and subterfuge, and stabs in the back.
Never trust a bloody Turk again, never accept soap boxes.
Bloody Turk! Now I have to wash my mouth out with soap. Yuk.

I was actually referring to this newfound friend of Zan... BrrrrrrrrrTTTTTTTTT! :lol:
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Postby humanist » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:05 am

I see the cry babies are out in force;)
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Postby zan » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:21 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
bigOz wrote:KOCCINA AND THE VILLAGES COULD NOT POSSIBLY HAVE BEEN, AND WERE NEVER AN ENTRY POINT FOR ANY TURKISH SOLDIERS OR ARMS FOR THE REST OF THE TURKISH ENCLAVES ON THE ISLAND. Anyone who will argue the contrary is a total liar trying to justify their merciless attack against the TCs carried out in the area.

Kokkina was the ONLY SEA PORT accessible to the Turkish Cypriots, and at a very convenient location just across from Turkey, and that's why the TC's with the aid of Turkey fiercely resisted its surrender.

There simply was no other way TCs could smuggle weapons in Cyprus as all airports were controlled by GCs and here's some evidence of boat arms smuggling activity no doubt heading for Kokkina as there was nowhere else for the boat to go...

http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Navy.htm


Ok GR I'll pretend to be your sacraficial lamb :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol:

You have a go at us for putting up proof and then you say that they are from Turkish propaganda sites and then you post complete rubbish from a Greek propaganda site.. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Happy now.

Why don't you just put signs up where ever you lay traps. "This way for all gullible Turks" or something like that.

You are so full of yourself that you only fool your self. :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

My goodness! What have I done to deserve all this? :lol:

The Deniz incident is well known and documented because the British were involved. Here's another account of it...

In this connection an incident occurred in October 1959, which strained to the limits the efforts of Makarios and Kutchuk to retain intercommunal goodwill—the interception by a British naval patrol of a Turkish motorboat, the Deniz, off the Karpass peninsular carrying large quantities of arms and ammunition. The Deniz incident and the dramatic failure of Kutchuk’s appeal for the Turkish Cypriots to cooperate in a subsequent arms collection, confirmed that TMT were in control in the Turkish community and that the Turks intended to arm, rather than disarm, for security.

http://www.cyprus-conflict.net/municipa ... rkides.htm



I promise the Deniz incident had nothing to do with me.


But the TMT was arming, so what Plenty of water has gone under the bridge since then. With so many arms in GC hands what was the big deal. What is everybody trying to prove? If any amount of arms got through it was these that prevented our annihilation in 1963. Why keep on churning up old issues. With todays climate it is all pointless.
Peace for all
Deniz


Very true Deniz from Aksu :wink: but we are just discussing here trying to learn and exchange information.



Thats true as well. But we must not forget that the RoC also imported plenty arms legally and illegally as well during that period.


Arms, tanks , 10,000 soldiers from Greece:

GREEK OCCUPATION IN CYPRUS

Soon after the UN Security Council decided to send a peace-keeping force to Cyprus
in March 1964, Makarios visited Athens in early April. According to Andreas
Papandreou, then a Minister in the Cabinet of his father, George Papandreou, Prime
Minister of Greece :

“He and my father, who was handling personally all aspects of the
Cyprus problem, reached complete agreement...

A clandestine operation then began on a huge scale of nightly
shipments of arms and troops, of ‘volunteers’ who arrived in Cyprus
in civilian clothes and then joined their ‘Cypriot’ units. The process
was not completed until the middle of the summer. No less than
twenty thousand officers and men, fully equipped, were shipped to
Cyprus.” (Andreas Papandreou, Democracy at Gunpoint)

Newsweek reported on 27 July 1964 that :

“Before dawn each day the great iron doors of the port of Limassol
are slammed shut...United Nations guards are barred. A few hours
later, the doors swing open and covered lorries, weaving on heavily
overloaded springs, roar out of the port and head northward towards
the Troodos Mountains.”
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:32 am

zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
bigOz wrote:KOCCINA AND THE VILLAGES COULD NOT POSSIBLY HAVE BEEN, AND WERE NEVER AN ENTRY POINT FOR ANY TURKISH SOLDIERS OR ARMS FOR THE REST OF THE TURKISH ENCLAVES ON THE ISLAND. Anyone who will argue the contrary is a total liar trying to justify their merciless attack against the TCs carried out in the area.

Kokkina was the ONLY SEA PORT accessible to the Turkish Cypriots, and at a very convenient location just across from Turkey, and that's why the TC's with the aid of Turkey fiercely resisted its surrender.

There simply was no other way TCs could smuggle weapons in Cyprus as all airports were controlled by GCs and here's some evidence of boat arms smuggling activity no doubt heading for Kokkina as there was nowhere else for the boat to go...

http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Navy.htm


Ok GR I'll pretend to be your sacraficial lamb :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol:

You have a go at us for putting up proof and then you say that they are from Turkish propaganda sites and then you post complete rubbish from a Greek propaganda site.. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Happy now.

Why don't you just put signs up where ever you lay traps. "This way for all gullible Turks" or something like that.

You are so full of yourself that you only fool your self. :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

My goodness! What have I done to deserve all this? :lol:

The Deniz incident is well known and documented because the British were involved. Here's another account of it...

In this connection an incident occurred in October 1959, which strained to the limits the efforts of Makarios and Kutchuk to retain intercommunal goodwill—the interception by a British naval patrol of a Turkish motorboat, the Deniz, off the Karpass peninsular carrying large quantities of arms and ammunition. The Deniz incident and the dramatic failure of Kutchuk’s appeal for the Turkish Cypriots to cooperate in a subsequent arms collection, confirmed that TMT were in control in the Turkish community and that the Turks intended to arm, rather than disarm, for security.

http://www.cyprus-conflict.net/municipa ... rkides.htm



I promise the Deniz incident had nothing to do with me.


But the TMT was arming, so what Plenty of water has gone under the bridge since then. With so many arms in GC hands what was the big deal. What is everybody trying to prove? If any amount of arms got through it was these that prevented our annihilation in 1963. Why keep on churning up old issues. With todays climate it is all pointless.
Peace for all
Deniz


Very true Deniz from Aksu :wink: but we are just discussing here trying to learn and exchange information.



Thats true as well. But we must not forget that the RoC also imported plenty arms legally and illegally as well during that period.


Arms, tanks , 10,000 soldiers from Greece:

GREEK OCCUPATION IN CYPRUS

Soon after the UN Security Council decided to send a peace-keeping force to Cyprus
in March 1964, Makarios visited Athens in early April. According to Andreas
Papandreou, then a Minister in the Cabinet of his father, George Papandreou, Prime
Minister of Greece :

“He and my father, who was handling personally all aspects of the
Cyprus problem, reached complete agreement...

A clandestine operation then began on a huge scale of nightly
shipments of arms and troops, of ‘volunteers’ who arrived in Cyprus
in civilian clothes and then joined their ‘Cypriot’ units. The process
was not completed until the middle of the summer. No less than
twenty thousand officers and men, fully equipped, were shipped to
Cyprus.” (Andreas Papandreou, Democracy at Gunpoint)

Newsweek reported on 27 July 1964 that :

“Before dawn each day the great iron doors of the port of Limassol
are slammed shut...United Nations guards are barred. A few hours
later, the doors swing open and covered lorries, weaving on heavily
overloaded springs, roar out of the port and head northward towards
the Troodos Mountains.”


Thanks Zan, ever so resourceful :lol: :lol:
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