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[denizaksulu]

Talking of grape juice and the past, anyone remember the soft drink Keo Vita? This was a fizzy "grapeade" and tasted like cough syrup. Hated the stuff!

Keo Vita was so acidic I still wonder that Drinkers had any teeth left. My golly it was refreshing. Of course the yanks killed that off with their Coca Cola. Another nail in Cyprus' coffin, in addition to Macdonalds.
Regards DA

[denizaksulu]

Please ignore my previous post as it's not correct.
After calling mum she told me the stuff big oz is talking about is a pekmez made with grape juice. She remembers helping her grandmother making it. It was made from grapes (stepped on and squashed) and the juice was then simmered in a big 'gazan' with the addition of a special kind of powder (made from a certain type of a lime stone) until it went thick like honey. Hope this helps a little big oz.

My grandmother used to make what is being described here at the same time as sucuk tsoustoukos. She used to call it 'kefter'. This is in the Larnaca district.

Regards
DA

[denizaksulu]

Big oz, they also used a similar mixture of grape extract to cover a cotton cloth, like brush it on the material and then hang it in the sun to dry. After drying they used to remove the cloth and you have a paper thin piece of dried fruit desert. I have seen a modern version of this in Australia and they call it Roll Ups. I have seen the recipe some time ago on the net but can't seem to find it now. We used to buy them in a tinted cellophane wrapping and after eating the content used to use the plastic to look through it.

This is the 'kefter' of my grandmothers. See previous post. Sometimes up to 8-9 mm thick. I can not believe that the art of making this is lost!

Regards
DA

[denizaksulu]

The above that Zan posted (paluze and kiofterka as we call them) still exist. I ask my mum about Port but she do not recognize the name of what you are saying.

Thank you Lena, I love your mum. This IS what my granny called 'KEFTER' Almost the same pronounciation.

You make me happy. It was suggested by a poster that it was extinct. Where can I find your mother Lena. I want to kiss her hands.

Deniz

[LENA]

The above that Zan posted (paluze and kiofterka as we call them) still exist. I ask my mum about Port but she do not recognize the name of what you are saying.

Thank you Lena, I love your mum. This IS what my granny called 'KEFTER' Almost the same pronounciation.

You make me happy. It was suggested by a poster that it was extinct. Where can I find your mother Lena. I want to kiss her hands.

Deniz

Why you want to kiss my mums hands???

[denizaksulu]

The above that Zan posted (paluze and kiofterka as we call them) still exist. I ask my mum about Port but she do not recognize the name of what you are saying.

Thank you Lena, I love your mum. This IS what my granny called 'KEFTER' Almost the same pronounciation.

You make me happy. It was suggested by a poster that it was extinct. Where can I find your mother Lena. I want to kiss her hands.

Deniz

Why you want to kiss my mums hands???

Sorry to confuse you Lena mou. I know I am many years older than your mother. Kissing hand and placing the hand on your forehead is an old Turkic/ TC tradition. When the post relating to KEFTER came through I did not know any other way to show my pleasure. For all I know, your mother might even make the Kefter, and that is good enough for me.As she might have saved it(kefter) from extinction. Respect my dear. In reality, If your mother was younger than myself, it would not happen. Then I would give her a kiss on each cheek. Besides that she has aan intelligent daughter lke yourself.

Regards
DA

[LENA]

The above that Zan posted (paluze and kiofterka as we call them) still exist. I ask my mum about Port but she do not recognize the name of what you are saying.

Thank you Lena, I love your mum. This IS what my granny called 'KEFTER' Almost the same pronounciation.

You make me happy. It was suggested by a poster that it was extinct. Where can I find your mother Lena. I want to kiss her hands.

Deniz

Why you want to kiss my mums hands???

Sorry to confuse you Lena mou. I know I am many years older than your mother. Kissing hand and placing the hand on your forehead is an old Turkic/ TC tradition. When the post relating to KEFTER came through I did not know any other way to show my pleasure. For all I know, your mother might even make the Kefter, and that is good enough for me.As she might have saved it(kefter) from extinction. Respect my dear. In reality, If your mother was younger than myself, it would not happen. Then I would give her a kiss on each cheek. Besides that she has aan intelligent daughter lke yourself.

Regards
DA

Deniz,

My mum is a lot younger than you. She didnt save the kefter from extinction but my grandmother and aunt did that, and my aunt still does that. My mother knows how to do them but the thing is in Nicosia and with busy life is not easy thing.

During the visit to my aunt I brought back some good stuff to take with me in UK....trahana, tsamarella etc...

As for the matter of respect we kiss hand of elder....but that was a very old tradition the only hand we kiss now is priest's hands. The kiss to the forehead still exist as bless..not respect, from older to younger.

Now all those is more like cheek kisses.

[denizaksulu]

The above that Zan posted (paluze and kiofterka as we call them) still exist. I ask my mum about Port but she do not recognize the name of what you are saying.

Thank you Lena, I love your mum. This IS what my granny called 'KEFTER' Almost the same pronounciation.

You make me happy. It was suggested by a poster that it was extinct. Where can I find your mother Lena. I want to kiss her hands.

Deniz

Why you want to kiss my mums hands???

Sorry to confuse you Lena mou. I know I am many years older than your mother. Kissing hand and placing the hand on your forehead is an old Turkic/ TC tradition. When the post relating to KEFTER came through I did not know any other way to show my pleasure. For all I know, your mother might even make the Kefter, and that is good enough for me.As she might have saved it(kefter) from extinction. Respect my dear. In reality, If your mother was younger than myself, it would not happen. Then I would give her a kiss on each cheek. Besides that she has aan intelligent daughter lke yourself.

Regards
DA

Deniz,

My mum is a lot younger than you. She didnt save the kefter from extinction but my grandmother and aunt did that, and my aunt still does that. My mother knows how to do them but the thing is in Nicosia and with busy life is not easy thing.

During the visit to my aunt I brought back some good stuff to take with me in UK....trahana, tsamarella etc...

As for the matter of respect we kiss hand of elder....but that was a very old tradition the only hand we kiss now is priest's hands. The kiss to the forehead still exist as bless..not respect, from older to younger.

Now all those is more like cheek kisses.

Sorry, no offence intended towards mother. In that case I will kiss your grandmothers hand for the protection of traditions. RESPECT also is a good tradition to preserve, I hope.

Thank you

Deniz

[bigOz]

Thanks for your trouble and all the information Lena! Now I know I can buy some from the South when I return to Cyprus.

HEY! What is all this about kisses flying everywhere? BEHAVE DA!

[LENA]

Deniz...my grandmother passed away! Thats why she can not keep being a keeper for traditions.