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[zan]

Got some more names for you bigOZ. My dad does remember "Porto" made from grape juice. It was a concentrate and was mixed with water when needed. He also came up with a few other names that were made from grape juice and pekmez with sesame seeds sprinkled on top. They are:

Kofter

and

Paluze

Hope that helps.

[LENA]

The above that Zan posted (paluze and kiofterka as we call them) still exist. I ask my mum about Port but she do not recognize the name of what you are saying.

[bigOz]

BTW, a type of lime stone is always used when making most sweets in Cyprus. It hardens the sweets or in the case of things like "paluze" and "sucuk" (sorry I do not know what GCs call them) it helps them solidify when cooled after cooking. So it would have been used to make the pekmez/grape juice mix thicker and less runny!

Indeed it does:

pekmez = pektikos = pectic, which mean coagulating.

Funny how we adopt to other languages. I am not sure if it is used in Turkey, but TCs use the word "pek" when implying that something is solid, especially when referred to food. Probably we adapted it from the word pektikos (if that was the original Greek word for it).

[bigOz]

Got some more names for you bigOZ. My dad does remember "Porto" made from grape juice. It was a concentrate and was mixed with water when needed. He also came up with a few other names that were made from grape juice and pekmez with sesame seeds sprinkled on top. They are:
Kofter
and
Paluze
Hope that helps.

Thanks Zan! I know about the other two as well. But I am more concerned with the delicious taste of Porto and if anyone knows how it was made. OK we have established it was from grape juice, probably with some pekmez mixed in, and boiled using limestone to make it go thick as honey. If it is as simple as that, I shall definitely have a go when I return to Cyprus. Meanwhile perhaps someone might actually remember how it was exactly made.

Lena said

The above that Zan posted (paluze and kiofterka as we call them) still exist. I ask my mum about Port but she do not recognize the name of what you are saying.

That is exactly what I mean Lena. We actually have some great tasting healthy food that originated from the vineyard covered villages of Cyprus. But some just disappear in time and not many can remeber it after a while, until those who can remember are also dead and the product becomes completely extinct! I get upset thinking my son (and young people like yourself) will never be able to taste the goodness I did...

[LENA]

Lena said

The above that Zan posted (paluze and kiofterka as we call them) still exist. I ask my mum about Port but she do not recognize the name of what you are saying.

That is exactly what I mean Lena. We actually have some great tasting healthy food that originated from the vineyard covered villages of Cyprus. But some just disappear in time and not many can remeber it after a while, until those who can remember are also dead and the product becomes completely extinct! I get upset thinking my son (and young people like yourself) will never be able to taste the goodness I did...

Dont be disappointed Big OZ ...we might still have that but we dont know if still has that name. Greek Cypriots might have a different name...when I visit my grandfather at the end of the week in Paphos i will ask him again...I will check by the end of the month in the Wine festival in Limassol the traditional food tables to check if there is something like that and ask ... keep your chin up!!!

[bigOz]

Lena said

The above that Zan posted (paluze and kiofterka as we call them) still exist. I ask my mum about Port but she do not recognize the name of what you are saying.

That is exactly what I mean Lena. We actually have some great tasting healthy food that originated from the vineyard covered villages of Cyprus. But some just disappear in time and not many can remeber it after a while, until those who can remember are also dead and the product becomes completely extinct! I get upset thinking my son (and young people like yourself) will never be able to taste the goodness I did...

Dont be disappointed Big OZ ...we might still have that but we dont know if still has that name. Greek Cypriots might have a different name...when I visit my grandfather at the end of the week in Paphos i will ask him again...I will check by the end of the month in the Wine festival in Limassol the traditional food tables to check if there is something like that and ask ... keep your chin up!!!

You are an angel Lena! (How I wish I was 20 years younger! )

I must shoot off now, but before I go I let you know all my family are also from Paphos. Please ask your family, what has happened to the old Turkish cemetary they had there? Is it true they built on it? Thanks!

[LENA]

Lena said

The above that Zan posted (paluze and kiofterka as we call them) still exist. I ask my mum about Port but she do not recognize the name of what you are saying.

That is exactly what I mean Lena. We actually have some great tasting healthy food that originated from the vineyard covered villages of Cyprus. But some just disappear in time and not many can remeber it after a while, until those who can remember are also dead and the product becomes completely extinct! I get upset thinking my son (and young people like yourself) will never be able to taste the goodness I did...

Dont be disappointed Big OZ ...we might still have that but we dont know if still has that name. Greek Cypriots might have a different name...when I visit my grandfather at the end of the week in Paphos i will ask him again...I will check by the end of the month in the Wine festival in Limassol the traditional food tables to check if there is something like that and ask ... keep your chin up!!!

You are an angel Lena! (How I wish I was 20 years younger! )

I must shoot off now, but before I go I let you know all my family are also from Paphos. Please ask your family, what has happened to the old Turkish cemetary they had there? Is it true they built on it? Thanks!

Thanks for your kind words...Big Oz I will ask tomorrow my mum since she gone to work now...night shift! But can you tell me which area? I know that are several TC village in Paphos and Limassol area or mixed villages. I dont think that they had only one cemetery.

[bigOz]

Lena said

The above that Zan posted (paluze and kiofterka as we call them) still exist. I ask my mum about Port but she do not recognize the name of what you are saying.

That is exactly what I mean Lena. We actually have some great tasting healthy food that originated from the vineyard covered villages of Cyprus. But some just disappear in time and not many can remeber it after a while, until those who can remember are also dead and the product becomes completely extinct! I get upset thinking my son (and young people like yourself) will never be able to taste the goodness I did...

Dont be disappointed Big OZ ...we might still have that but we dont know if still has that name. Greek Cypriots might have a different name...when I visit my grandfather at the end of the week in Paphos i will ask him again...I will check by the end of the month in the Wine festival in Limassol the traditional food tables to check if there is something like that and ask ... keep your chin up!!!

You are an angel Lena! (How I wish I was 20 years younger! )

I must shoot off now, but before I go I let you know all my family are also from Paphos. Please ask your family, what has happened to the old Turkish cemetary they had there? Is it true they built on it? Thanks!

Thanks for your kind words...Big Oz I will ask tomorrow my mum since she gone to work now...night shift! But can you tell me which area? I know that are several TC village in Paphos and Limassol area or mixed villages. I dont think that they had only one cemetery.

I was talking of Paphos town itself! All the TCs who died during the 1953 earthquake were buried there (or was it 1954 - not sure, I wasn't around).

[LENA]

I will ask her an let you know late in the evening or tomorrow. I will have to go soon day trip to the mountains

[LENA]

Finally i found it....I forgot which thread it was!

Anyway...I came back from a lovely weekend with family in Limassol and Paphos.

I did ask my relatives about Porto...and yes still exist and GC knows that as "Epsima" and they make cookies from that until now. My aunt told me that she knew that as Portos as well. See I told you dont get too disappointed. Your lovely Porto still exist.

As for the cemetery...yes that exist as well...but it look like an empty field...nothing more. No they didnt build anything on that according to my relatives.