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Makarios' "13 Points" (November 1963)

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby the_snake_and_the_crane » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:38 pm

Pyrpolyser, I know what I am talking about. We put the bullets into the guns of TMT.


Yeah you wish. You also wish Greeks were completely wiped out from Cyprus you sneaky hippy cunt.
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Postby bigOz » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:42 pm

the_snake_and_the_crane wrote:haha...so just because something is written in a newspaper it must still be true????

and Turks must still be the only paranoid people who write the words 'north' and 'south' with capital letters, even when they are describing a geographic location and not a place name lol.

"OOOOH, if i dont use capital letters when writing 'north' or 'south', I may be seen as a traitor by the loonies at ACTA and then the whole world will think my illegal psuedo state is not officially known as 'Northern Cyprus'."

ATTENTION ALL IDIOTS!

Below is from Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
north
–noun
1. a cardinal point of the compass, lying in the plane of the meridian and to the left of a person facing the rising sun. Abbreviation: N
2. the direction in which this point lies.
3. (usually initial capital letter) a region or territory situated in this direction.
4. the North, the northern area of the United States, esp. the states that fought to preserve the Union in the Civil War, lying to the north of the Ohio River, and usually including Missouri and Maryland.

Did someone hear a snake hiss? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby the_snake_and_the_crane » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:51 pm

and whats your point old fatso bloke? that you cant understand the dictionary? Where does it say that everywhere that 'north' or 'south' is written must be used with capital letters??? Are you telling me that YOU and the rest of your paranoid Grey Wolves buddies are right and countless publishers, journalists, authors but other members of any supposed English literature establisment are wrong???? lol
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:59 pm

Sorry snake but here we have the exact date the speech was made. If within that speech Makarios said "for as long as this filthy dirty community the Tcs exist..... etc etc" the it should have appeared not only in Mainland Greek/British newspapers it would have appeared in GC newspapers too, and I would take that as enough evidence.

On the other hand if it appeared then Denktash wouldn't need to rely on Rustem Bros ALONE to make his protest letters. We would have relied on GC media as well. He didn't!

If I were a researcher I would go to PIO tomorrow and pay 10-20 pounds and see all newspapers published the next day after Makarios made his speech at Panayia. (Assuming bigOz would show m how to use that microfish machine :lol: ...)

Hey since I believe this forum is monitored I am sure the propaganda office at the occupied will not miss the chance and spend 10-20 pounds themselves. Patience guys, just give it maximum 2 weeks time. If there is ANYTHING all the Turkish propaganda sites will be flooded with it. Imo there is nothing...
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Postby the_snake_and_the_crane » Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:04 pm

Yeah but how many times have we read the lies that Loucas Charalambous writes in the Cyprus Mail. Are we supposed to think it is then the truth??
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:16 pm

Loucas writes opinionated comments. He has no evidence of what he says.

Here we talk for a snip from a speech. If it was quoted by ANY GC newspaper the very next day then that's EVIDENCE.
If nothing was quoted in ANY newspaper the very next day that's AGAIN EVIDENCE that no such thing was ever said.
I hope I am clear.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:21 pm

bigOz wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:@BigOz and everyone interested

http://www.cyprus.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.ns ... document#7

Where can I find past issues of Greek and English language newspapers and magazines published in Cyprus? Where can I obtain copies of articles in back issues?


The PIO has archives of Greek and English language newspapers published in Cyprus going back to the beginning of British rule in 1878 and available to the public for research purposes. It also has copies of mainland Greek newspapers as well as foreign newspapers and newspapers/ magazines published by Greek/Greek Cypriot communities abroad.

Many are on microfilm and copies can be obtained if required. There is a charge of £1 per microfilm viewed. There is also a charge of 5 cents for each A4 size copy made and 10 cents for each A3 size copy.

The PIO newspaper archives are open to the public during the following hours:

Jan-June and Sept-Dec

Monday-Friday: 08:00 - 13:30

Thursday: 15:00 - 17:00

July-Aug

Monday-Friday: 08:00 - 13:30

Great work P! At least now we have a very good source to fall onto when there is a serious disagreement on some very serious issues. Well done mate! :D

The only slight problem is, one has to attend in person at the address:
Press and Information Office (PIO)
Apellis St.
1456 Lefkosia (Nicosia), Cyprus


He,he,he I admit I have an advantage here my friend. I mean I could have gone there, checked the archives, then take (or turn down your bet) accordingly. :wink:
So no bets next time ok? :lol:
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:21 pm

So you think the Greek Cypriot press at the time reported everything Makarios said and done? Does the fact that no murder of a Turkish Cypriot was reported in the press means that the murders did not happen?

I like the excuse used to describe Loucas Charalampous. His views are "opinionated" as opposed, I suppose, to the views of all the others, who are balanced and therefore correct. When Papadopoulos, for example, was quoted as saying that no Turkish Cypriot was killed between 1963 and 1974, his opinion was much appreciated and the politically correct did not raise an eyebrow.
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Postby zan » Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:48 pm

I am afraid that is the way Pyro thinks.. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Makarios had control over everything...EOKA were killing everything that spoke up against ENOSIS and the Greek papers were going to print what Makarios really said....If that is not funny then I don't know what is. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby the_snake_and_the_crane » Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:53 pm

So you think the Greek Cypriot press at the time reported everything Makarios said and done? Does the fact that no murder of a Turkish Cypriot was reported in the press means that the murders did not happen?


Here we go again - its the anti-Greek.

Relying on the press to finding factual information about political matters is not very clever, no matter what side of the political divide you lie.

I like the excuse used to describe Loucas Charalampous. His views are "opinionated" as opposed, I suppose, to the views of all the others, who are balanced and therefore correct. When Papadopoulos, for example, was quoted as saying that no Turkish Cypriot was killed between 1963 and 1974, his opinion was much appreciated and the politically correct did not raise an eyebrow.


Bananiot your as bad as Zan, brining up regurgetated claims that have no credibility for truth (often used by Turkish propagandists). This whole thing about Papadopolous saying that no Turkish Cypriot was killed between '63 and '74 comes from a single one off article printed in some kind of Arabic website by a journalist which nobody knows quoted the Cyprus president directly, or used primary or secondary information to write his piece. Have you heard the Cyprus president directly say what the article said??? Are you such a moron (which I think you are) that you believe everything you read in the press?????????
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