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What is the solution to be?

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Take your pick!

No settlement
2
22%
RoC gets Turkey out
4
44%
KKTC recognized
1
11%
Full implementation of 1960 Constitution
2
22%
 
Total votes : 9

Postby zan » Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:30 am

DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
paaul12 wrote:
Then you need to add the option: "Cyprus to become a super power"



What in Money Laundering?

you say that with a straight face while your pariah state is harbouring asil nadir and every other uk fugitive while we've had the entire Brussels bureocracy move to downtown Nicosia telling us we can't deposit more than £3,000 in someone's account at a time?


What has Asil Nadir ever done to you DT..


funny you should ask...Mr Nadir was given a lot of land in Morphou, My family was a huge landowner over there and from what we got told all the citrus fields we had were given to him.

Not any more mate. It all got taken off him as far as I know. He has a little place up in the moutains is what I heard.
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Postby DT. » Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:33 am

zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
paaul12 wrote:
Then you need to add the option: "Cyprus to become a super power"



What in Money Laundering?

you say that with a straight face while your pariah state is harbouring asil nadir and every other uk fugitive while we've had the entire Brussels bureocracy move to downtown Nicosia telling us we can't deposit more than £3,000 in someone's account at a time?


What has Asil Nadir ever done to you DT..


funny you should ask...Mr Nadir was given a lot of land in Morphou, My family was a huge landowner over there and from what we got told all the citrus fields we had were given to him.

Not any more mate. It all got taken off him as far as I know. He has a little place up in the moutains is what I heard.


nice to hear..although doesn;t make much difference to me. Tell you something ou might not know though. The govt is letting people borrow up to 10% of the mkt value of their occupied land with only 2% interest over here. Must be some logic in that other than making sure that in case of a default the banks end up owning the GC land in the north in case of a solution.
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Postby zan » Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:40 am

DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
paaul12 wrote:
Then you need to add the option: "Cyprus to become a super power"



What in Money Laundering?

you say that with a straight face while your pariah state is harbouring asil nadir and every other uk fugitive while we've had the entire Brussels bureocracy move to downtown Nicosia telling us we can't deposit more than £3,000 in someone's account at a time?


What has Asil Nadir ever done to you DT..


funny you should ask...Mr Nadir was given a lot of land in Morphou, My family was a huge landowner over there and from what we got told all the citrus fields we had were given to him.

Not any more mate. It all got taken off him as far as I know. He has a little place up in the moutains is what I heard.


nice to hear..although doesn;t make much difference to me. Tell you something ou might not know though. The govt is letting people borrow up to 10% of the mkt value of their occupied land with only 2% interest over here. Must be some logic in that other than making sure that in case of a default the banks end up owning the GC land in the north in case of a solution.
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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:02 am

no way would the eu consider two seperate states
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Postby zan » Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:14 am

zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
paaul12 wrote:
Then you need to add the option: "Cyprus to become a super power"



What in Money Laundering?

you say that with a straight face while your pariah state is harbouring asil nadir and every other uk fugitive while we've had the entire Brussels bureocracy move to downtown Nicosia telling us we can't deposit more than £3,000 in someone's account at a time?


What has Asil Nadir ever done to you DT..


funny you should ask...Mr Nadir was given a lot of land in Morphou, My family was a huge landowner over there and from what we got told all the citrus fields we had were given to him.

Not any more mate. It all got taken off him as far as I know. He has a little place up in the moutains is what I heard.


nice to hear..although doesn;t make much difference to me. Tell you something ou might not know though. The govt is letting people borrow up to 10% of the mkt value of their occupied land with only 2% interest over here. Must be some logic in that other than making sure that in case of a default the banks end up owning the GC land in the north in case of a solution.


I think someone is mucking about with my posts :shock:

What was the name of that politician that brought into the open that the selling of properties to anyone was not illegal? Put that together with the GC estate agents that were selling the land to Turkish developers and I think you have your answer. The game goes on....... :wink: :wink:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:10 pm

T_C I don't really know what the solution will be. But I believe there will be a FINAL SOLUTION or an END to Cyprus problem within the next 20 years.
Two events have high possibility imo:
a)Unification where TCs will end up with autonomy rights inside a Unitary state member of EU run by the GCs
b)Less likely: An agreed return to 1960 constitution as a transitional period to solve the property issue and the isolation of TCs while working from within there towards a bicommunal Federation but not strictly bizonal.
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:57 pm

DT. wrote:
nice to hear..although doesn;t make much difference to me. Tell you something ou might not know though. The govt is letting people borrow up to 10% of the mkt value of their occupied land with only 2% interest over here. Must be some logic in that other than making sure that in case of a default the banks end up owning the GC land in the north in case of a solution.


Actually DT, that may not be a bad thing after all. If the bank ends up with the GC land, knowing full well that it was a GC land, then the rightful owners can sue the bank for their property or it's worth in a settlement.

Perhaps it's a ploy by the "TRNC" to get back as much GC land as possible at the least possible cost, from those that GC land was given to "free" or in "land exchange", so that it can be given back to the GC's in a settlement or to those who are going through the "TRNC" land commission.. "TRNC" will just pay the bank on what little money it has lent out, but never got it back, because the borrower bought himself a flashy BMW, but forgot that the car also needs petrol and maintenance.
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Postby cypezokyli » Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:35 pm

there are only three serious possible outcomes

1. continuation of the status quo, with partial recognition and end of the isolation
2. a new version of the AP with a few changes





3. a referendum will take place according to which all cypriots will choose where they want to live - tc state, gc state , and the mixed gc-tc state which will be declared as the Republic of Paphos/Baf. Cyprus will be partitioned to three. this option has been already proposed here and it has received significant support from forum members :)
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Postby zan » Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:50 pm

Kikapu wrote:
DT. wrote:
nice to hear..although doesn;t make much difference to me. Tell you something ou might not know though. The govt is letting people borrow up to 10% of the mkt value of their occupied land with only 2% interest over here. Must be some logic in that other than making sure that in case of a default the banks end up owning the GC land in the north in case of a solution.


Actually DT, that may not be a bad thing after all. If the bank ends up with the GC land, knowing full well that it was a GC land, then the rightful owners can sue the bank for their property or it's worth in a settlement.

Perhaps it's a ploy by the "TRNC" to get back as much GC land as possible at the least possible cost, from those that GC land was given to "free" or in "land exchange", so that it can be given back to the GC's in a settlement or to those who are going through the "TRNC" land commission.. "TRNC" will just pay the bank on what little money it has lent out, but never got it back, because the borrower bought himself a flashy BMW, but forgot that the car also needs petrol and maintenance.


One of us has got the wrong end of the stick or I am not understanding what you wrote. DT said the banks over here meaning in the south so the TRNC/KKTC has got nothing to do with it?????
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:55 pm

zan wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
DT. wrote:
nice to hear..although doesn;t make much difference to me. Tell you something ou might not know though. The govt is letting people borrow up to 10% of the mkt value of their occupied land with only 2% interest over here. Must be some logic in that other than making sure that in case of a default the banks end up owning the GC land in the north in case of a solution.


Actually DT, that may not be a bad thing after all. If the bank ends up with the GC land, knowing full well that it was a GC land, then the rightful owners can sue the bank for their property or it's worth in a settlement.

Perhaps it's a ploy by the "TRNC" to get back as much GC land as possible at the least possible cost, from those that GC land was given to "free" or in "land exchange", so that it can be given back to the GC's in a settlement or to those who are going through the "TRNC" land commission.. "TRNC" will just pay the bank on what little money it has lent out, but never got it back, because the borrower bought himself a flashy BMW, but forgot that the car also needs petrol and maintenance.


One of us has got the wrong end of the stick or I am not understanding what you wrote. DT said the banks over here meaning in the south so the TRNC/KKTC has got nothing to do with it?????


Having re-read what DT wrote Zan, looks like I'm the one who got the "shitty" end of the stick. I actually thought, that the "TRNC" was up to something good in case there was to be a settlement.

Sorry, I messed up.
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