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[Southerner]

Southerner, I stand by what I have said about you and your mate miltiades, (he who chews up and spits out punks like me), I know of an old Gypsy boy of 68 years who wouldn't wipe his arse with the pair of you, as for your intellect, you bear all the hallmarks of a pair of old 'draft dodgers'.

All mouth and trousers is an apt description I reckon, a right pair of plonkers (to use your own language).

Wow that really hurt, just like being savaged by a toothless rabbit.

[Filitsa]

Eliko, is there truth to Southerner's allegation that you "campaign against the West"? Am I correct to conclude from your avatar that you are from the West?

The gentleman in question has unfortunately joined forces with another of his ilk and concluded that I must be 'Campaigning' against the West since I have published some very strong objections to the unlawful invasion of Iraq.

I have also stated my objections to the insults levelled at the leaders of other nations, since they ARE the leaders and should be respected as such, (regardless of our personal opinions) as we are not qualified to criticise the policies of other nations particularly when our own is under scrutiny from those same nations.

I have always endeavoured to seek the 'Root Causes' of any conflicts I have made reference to and seem to have attracted a great deal of criticism (mostly from the same sources) for my efforts.

I have been subjected to an enormous amount of personal abuse from one member in particular, his foul language does him no credit and I do feel that my objections to it have encouraged him to desist generally.

(This fact is quite apparent if you care to read through some past exchanges).

I have NEVER stated that I hate the West, NEVER condoned the actions of those who are resisting aggression, NEVER allied myself to the enemies of the West and NEVER offered foul language and direct insult to any member since I would consider that to be detrimental to my own character.

My avatar is the flag of Cuba, I have family connections there, the President of that nation has received his insult from the aforementioned gentleman's counterpart (who has also boasted of his verbal abuse to the Mayor of an area of Cyprus, such is his capacity for respect) I think it is shameful behaviour as the gentleman in question admits to be 61 years of age. (some role model for the younger members of this forum).

I am a citizen of the West, I am NOT a Muslim and NO, there is no truth in the allegations of the gentleman in question, he has merely become influenced by the other of his age.

Best wishes to you, sorry for the delay in responding, I've had a busy day.

Eliko, thank you for the reply.

"I am a citizen of the West." What are the implications of this statement as it pertains to you?

[Filitsa]

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[Filitsa]

Hello Southerner. The Bush Administration provided an array of "justifications" for invading Iraq. When one didn't work, his Spin Doctors created another, each one further insulting the intelligence of the independent thinking American public (as opposed to those who pay blind allegiance). "In and out" we were told. Perhaps you can provide me with a more believable explanation for why the U.S. invaded and why U.S. troops are still there.

[Eliko]

Filitsa, if you have read any of the previous posts that I have submitted, you will no doubt observe that these two 'Gentlemen ' have joined forces and persistently responded with insults and allegations that I am a sympathiser with suicide bombers and terrorists.

They have never answered the questions I have put to them, preferring to constantly refer to other and current events in Iraq and elsewhere.

So tiresome have they become (much to my own shame) I have just recently responded to them with insult.

I am absolutely fed up with their inane comments, they are a sad representation of the older generation (in my opinion) and I feel somewhat sullied by association with them.

As to my own nationality, I am British, I have a military background and have travelled widely, it would appear that my biggest 'Fault' (according to the two gentlemen mentioned) lies in the fact that I do try to understand the reasons for the conflicts now occuring in many parts of the world.

The reason for my interest is quite simple, I have never been anywhere in the world where I was not made welcome by the ordinary people, I have never encountered racism or hatred among them, it just seems extraordinary to me that, at the drop of a hat, the whole world seems to become embroiled in so much hatred.

I personally blame the politicians, I have seen them in action, I have sat with them during debates and have been shocked at their behaviour in privacy, I would dearly love to find what encourages the ordinary people, particularly we of the West, to submit to the awful actions of our nations, 'knowing them to be wrong', accepting the fact that they are mostly the result of chicanery, yet offering complete loyalty.

Am I so wrong when I try to determine the 'Root Causes' of the conflicts in the world ?.

Do I deserve derision and sustained insult for embarking on such a quest ?.

Best Wishes to you Filitsa.

[Southerner]

Filitsa, if you have read any of the previous posts that I have submitted, you will no doubt observe that these two 'Gentlemen ' have joined forces and persistently responded with insults and allegations that I am a sympathiser with suicide bombers and terrorists.
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Eliko you have become so embroiled in your mixed up mentality and fantasy world that I think you have lost touch with reality.

You keep harping on about the west's involvement in Iraq being the sole cause of suicide bombers, saying that is where they learnt their violent ways, have you not beem aware of the violent history of most of the middle eastern countys in recent years? just as much of this was fuelled by the USSR as by the west but for the most part they don't need encouragement from anybody.

Your ridiculous assertions about the British in Cyprus are as insulting as they are stupid especialy your unqualified remarks about the British involvement in the Turkish invasion. Anyone with knowledge of the history of Cyprus since independence is well aware of the brinkmanship played between Greece/Greek Cypriots and Turkey which resulted in the 1974 invasion, to say that the British were involved just shows your lack of knowledge, everyone knows that without the British prescence the whole island would now be under Turkish for ever.

Everything that you post has an angle against the west and the UK. and whilst that goes on so will my responses as is my right to do so.

[Southerner]

Hello Southerner. The Bush Administration provided an array of "justifications" for invading Iraq. When one didn't work, his Spin Doctors created another, each one further insulting the intelligence of the independent thinking American public (as opposed to those who pay blind allegiance). "In and out" we were told. Perhaps you can provide me with a more believable explanation for why the U.S. invaded and why U.S. troops are still there.

................. OILThe sooner more altenative fuels are developed the better, if the US and the western world were more energy conscious things would be better all round.

[Eliko]

Southerner, I have NEVER said that the suicide bombers learned their violent ways in Iraq.

The history of the Middle East generally is NOT under discussion.

The British government AND the US, WERE involved in the Turkish invasion, (that is common knowledge), the whole process was engineered long before 1974.

I believe that the brotherhood which existed in Cyprus for generations, WILL one day return to the island.

I hope your 'Arsolic' friend also reads this response to your usual gibberish.

[miltiades]

Get Real, I was beginning to feel a bit peeved with these two 'shnooks', when, BINGO !!!

Thanks Mate, 'Good on Ya!'

It takes one moron to know another !!!

[Eliko]

Get Real, I was beginning to feel a bit peeved with these two 'shnooks', when, BINGO !!!

Thanks Mate, 'Good on Ya!'

It takes one moron to know another !!!

Oh My God !!!, the skittering rat is back on the scene !.