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[humanist]

DA, I was 6 six when the Turkey invaded my country I remember the burning villages, I can see the smoke and fire, the planes flying above, I remember my dad going to war and my mother heading off to find him with his mother, being left with my maternal grandmother. I remember my grandmother being tol her son was missing. I remember waking up one morning with about 32 refugees in our home running from the war and I remember one of these refugees, crying her eyes out heading towards her village when she was told her son was killed by the Turks. So when Turkey claims to intervene, I do not trust that she wont, bomb my country again. As far as am concerned they are barbarians whose only way of managing conflict is through war and pilage.

My grandmother died in 1997. Her sons remains were identified in 2003 through DNA. She went to the grave not knowing what happened to her then 17 year old son.

Thank you for your re assurance, but it means nothing to me or my family.

[zan]

And the positions????

which ones?

Are you being serious ?

[denizaksulu]

DA, I was 6 six when the Turkey invaded my country I remember the burning villages, I can see the smoke and fire, the planes flying above, I remember my dad going to war and my mother heading off to find him with his mother, being left with my maternal grandmother. I remember my grandmother being tol her son was missing. I remember waking up one morning with about 32 refugees in our home running from the war and I remember one of these refugees, crying her eyes out heading towards her village when she was told her son was killed by the Turks. So when Turkey claims to intervene, I do not trust that she wont, bomb my country again. As far as am concerned they are barbarians whose only way of managing conflict is through war and pilage.

My grandmother died in 1997. Her sons remains were identified in 2003 through DNA. She went to the grave not knowing what happened to her then 17 year old son.

Thank you for your re assurance, but it means nothing to me or my family.

Humanist, I am sorry for the suffering of all Cypriots, whether,GC,Armenian,TC. We got hit with a little hammer, unfortunately you got hit with a larger hammer.
I said before, when I realised that Turkey was going to invade I shed tears for the forseeable suffering of the innocents. It should never have come to that.
My point now is that it would be foolhardy of Turkey to repeat anything similar against a member of the EU.
Regards
Deniz

[zan]

DA, I was 6 six when the Turkey invaded my country I remember the burning villages, I can see the smoke and fire, the planes flying above, I remember my dad going to war and my mother heading off to find him with his mother, being left with my maternal grandmother. I remember my grandmother being tol her son was missing. I remember waking up one morning with about 32 refugees in our home running from the war and I remember one of these refugees, crying her eyes out heading towards her village when she was told her son was killed by the Turks. So when Turkey claims to intervene, I do not trust that she wont, bomb my country again. As far as am concerned they are barbarians whose only way of managing conflict is through war and pilage.

My grandmother died in 1997. Her sons remains were identified in 2003 through DNA. She went to the grave not knowing what happened to her then 17 year old son.

Thank you for your re assurance, but it means nothing to me or my family.

And the empathy towards the people that went through this for over 10 years is where...


Perhaps if you were not trapped in the Greek propaganda that we did not suffer then you would understand why we do not trust you...

[denizaksulu]

DA, I was 6 six when the Turkey invaded my country I remember the burning villages, I can see the smoke and fire, the planes flying above, I remember my dad going to war and my mother heading off to find him with his mother, being left with my maternal grandmother. I remember my grandmother being tol her son was missing. I remember waking up one morning with about 32 refugees in our home running from the war and I remember one of these refugees, crying her eyes out heading towards her village when she was told her son was killed by the Turks. So when Turkey claims to intervene, I do not trust that she wont, bomb my country again. As far as am concerned they are barbarians whose only way of managing conflict is through war and pilage.

My grandmother died in 1997. Her sons remains were identified in 2003 through DNA. She went to the grave not knowing what happened to her then 17 year old son.

Thank you for your re assurance, but it means nothing to me or my family.

Humanist, I am sorry for the suffering of all Cypriots, whether,GC,Armenian,TC. We got hit with a little hammer, unfortunately you got hit with a larger hammer.
I said before, when I realised that Turkey was going to invade I shed tears for the forseeable suffering of the innocents. It should never have come to that.
My point now is that it would be foolhardy of Turkey to repeat anything similar against a member of the EU.
Regards
Deniz

I suppose I have to apologise to you, as luckily I have not had any immediate family members killed by GC actions like you have. May be that is why I find it easier to forgive past misdeeds. I am still sorry for your family losses. It might not mean anything to you but these are my sincere feelings. I hope one day you will find it in yourself to appreciate what we all have gone through. Cypriots as a whole people have suffered. Lets have no more of it.
Regards
Deniz

[zan]

DA, I was 6 six when the Turkey invaded my country I remember the burning villages, I can see the smoke and fire, the planes flying above, I remember my dad going to war and my mother heading off to find him with his mother, being left with my maternal grandmother. I remember my grandmother being tol her son was missing. I remember waking up one morning with about 32 refugees in our home running from the war and I remember one of these refugees, crying her eyes out heading towards her village when she was told her son was killed by the Turks. So when Turkey claims to intervene, I do not trust that she wont, bomb my country again. As far as am concerned they are barbarians whose only way of managing conflict is through war and pilage.

My grandmother died in 1997. Her sons remains were identified in 2003 through DNA. She went to the grave not knowing what happened to her then 17 year old son.

Thank you for your re assurance, but it means nothing to me or my family.

Humanist, I am sorry for the suffering of all Cypriots, whether,GC,Armenian,TC. We got hit with a little hammer, unfortunately you got hit with a larger hammer.
I said before, when I realised that Turkey was going to invade I shed tears for the forseeable suffering of the innocents. It should never have come to that.
My point now is that it would be foolhardy of Turkey to repeat anything similar against a member of the EU.
Regards
Deniz

I suppose I have to apologise to you, as luckily I have not had any immediate family members killed by GC actions like you have. May be that is why I find it easier to forgive past misdeeds. I am still sorry for your family losses. It might not mean anything to you but these are my sincere feelings. I hope one day you will find it in yourself to appreciate what we all have gone through. Cypriots as a whole people have suffered. Lets have no more of it.
Regards
Deniz

I commend you for the apology Deniz. I did not apologise because I have done so many times in the past. Perhaps I should again. I am sorry for your loss Humanist.

[bigOz]

DA, I was 6 six when the Turkey invaded my country I remember the burning villages, I can see the smoke and fire, the planes flying above, I remember my dad going to war and my mother heading off to find him with his mother, being left with my maternal grandmother. I remember my grandmother being tol her son was missing. I remember waking up one morning with about 32 refugees in our home running from the war and I remember one of these refugees, crying her eyes out heading towards her village when she was told her son was killed by the Turks. So when Turkey claims to intervene, I do not trust that she wont, bomb my country again. As far as am concerned they are barbarians whose only way of managing conflict is through war and pilage.

My grandmother died in 1997. Her sons remains were identified in 2003 through DNA. She went to the grave not knowing what happened to her then 17 year old son.

Thank you for your re assurance, but it means nothing to me or my family.

Humanist, I am sorry for the suffering of all Cypriots, whether,GC,Armenian,TC. We got hit with a little hammer, unfortunately you got hit with a larger hammer.
I said before, when I realised that Turkey was going to invade I shed tears for the forseeable suffering of the innocents. It should never have come to that.
My point now is that it would be foolhardy of Turkey to repeat anything similar against a member of the EU.
Regards
Deniz

I suppose I have to apologise to you, as luckily I have not had any immediate family members killed by GC actions like you have. May be that is why I find it easier to forgive past misdeeds. I am still sorry for your family losses. It might not mean anything to you but these are my sincere feelings. I hope one day you will find it in yourself to appreciate what we all have gone through. Cypriots as a whole people have suffered. Lets have no more of it.
Regards
Deniz

I commend you for the apology Deniz. I did not apologise because I have done so many times in the past. Perhaps I should again. I am sorry for your loss Humanist.

Two of my brothers almost got killed in Koccina area during 1964 attacks by Grivas and his men (they were with the students who had returned to Cyprus hoping to fight and stop their families from destruction - but got stuck in Erenkoy. One of them was sriously wounded and ended up deaf in one ear.

My wife's family were killed in "AYVASIL" during an unprovoked attack in 1964 (I believe the date is right) . Her two uncles, 7 cousins, two aunts etc. We left all our furniture and belongings in our home in Kyrenia beginning of 1964 and fled to the TC enclave in Nicosia with just the clothes and shoes and mum's personal valuables - shared a room sleeping on the floor for the next 2 years. My father was shot and seriously wounded during an attack by the Greek Natinal guard on the St Hilarion Castle overlooking Kyrenia and the Turkish enclave between "Kirni" and Nicosia. Two of my young cousins had died in the subsequent mortar attacks in the Turkish enclave of Paphos. AFter 1974, my family left millions of pounds worth property and land (mainly vineyards, but some banana groves, ground nut fields, houses, businesses etc.) I can go on with the list but I think the above is enough to make my point, which is:

I HAVE JUST AS GOOD REASONS TO FEEL BITTER ABOUT GCs - SO WHY DO I NOT FEEL AS STRONGLY ABOUT THEM AS HUMANIST DOES ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO GCs. Comparing our losses in the past would not be a very good starting point in searching for a solution to Cyprus problem.

I am just sorry for every innocent Cypriot who got killed without having the chance to live a full life - irrespective of if they were GC or a TC.

[Kikapu]

I am just sorry for every innocent Cypriot who got killed without having the chance to live a full life - irrespective of if they were GC or a TC.

[denizaksulu]

DA, I was 6 six when the Turkey invaded my country I remember the burning villages, I can see the smoke and fire, the planes flying above, I remember my dad going to war and my mother heading off to find him with his mother, being left with my maternal grandmother. I remember my grandmother being tol her son was missing. I remember waking up one morning with about 32 refugees in our home running from the war and I remember one of these refugees, crying her eyes out heading towards her village when she was told her son was killed by the Turks. So when Turkey claims to intervene, I do not trust that she wont, bomb my country again. As far as am concerned they are barbarians whose only way of managing conflict is through war and pilage.

My grandmother died in 1997. Her sons remains were identified in 2003 through DNA. She went to the grave not knowing what happened to her then 17 year old son.

Thank you for your re assurance, but it means nothing to me or my family.

Humanist, I am sorry for the suffering of all Cypriots, whether,GC,Armenian,TC. We got hit with a little hammer, unfortunately you got hit with a larger hammer.
I said before, when I realised that Turkey was going to invade I shed tears for the forseeable suffering of the innocents. It should never have come to that.
My point now is that it would be foolhardy of Turkey to repeat anything similar against a member of the EU.
Regards
Deniz

I suppose I have to apologise to you, as luckily I have not had any immediate family members killed by GC actions like you have. May be that is why I find it easier to forgive past misdeeds. I am still sorry for your family losses. It might not mean anything to you but these are my sincere feelings. I hope one day you will find it in yourself to appreciate what we all have gone through. Cypriots as a whole people have suffered. Lets have no more of it.
Regards
Deniz

I commend you for the apology Deniz. I did not apologise because I have done so many times in the past. Perhaps I should again. I am sorry for your loss Humanist.

Two of my brothers almost got killed in Koccina area during 1964 attacks by Grivas and his men (they were with the students who had returned to Cyprus hoping to fight and stop their families from destruction - but got stuck in Erenkoy. One of them was sriously wounded and ended up deaf in one ear.

My wife's family were killed in "AYVASIL" during an unprovoked attack in 1964 (I believe the date is right) . Her two uncles, 7 cousins, two aunts etc. We left all our furniture and belongings in our home in Kyrenia beginning of 1964 and fled to the TC enclave in Nicosia with just the clothes and shoes and mum's personal valuables - shared a room sleeping on the floor for the next 2 years. My father was shot and seriously wounded during an attack by the Greek Natinal guard on the St Hilarion Castle overlooking Kyrenia and the Turkish enclave between "Kirni" and Nicosia. Two of my young cousins had died in the subsequent mortar attacks in the Turkish enclave of Paphos. AFter 1974, my family left millions of pounds worth property and land (mainly vineyards, but some banana groves, ground nut fields, houses, businesses etc.) I can go on with the list but I think the above is enough to make my point, which is:

I HAVE JUST AS GOOD REASONS TO FEEL BITTER ABOUT GCs - SO WHY DO I NOT FEEL AS STRONGLY ABOUT THEM AS HUMANIST DOES ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO GCs. Comparing our losses in the past would not be a very good starting point in searching for a solution to Cyprus problem.

I am just sorry for every innocent Cypriot who got killed without having the chance to live a full life - irrespective of if they were GC or a TC.

I find your responses - Zan and Big Oz very refreshing. These past memories are also sad when we (all of us) remember our loved ones and the other lost souls.