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[zan]

Kifeas just wants to go to his home and land in the North.

I don't think he wants to become the TERMINATOR.

So do I but not by killing anyone.....Plus I want to have my rights intact. The new EU law that they want to force on us does not give me that. They have changed the constitution by stealth and you not only let them but support them in doing so.......

Zan,

I helped who change the Constitution.???

Let me get this straight Zan. Greece, Turkey and Britain are/were the Guarantors to the safekeeping of the Constitution of Cyprus, and what have they done really.

Greece invaded Cyprus.

Turkey invaded Cyprus.

Britain never left Cyprus.

So why are you not blaming all these Bastards who suppose to safeguard the Constitution instead of blaming me. While we are at it, why didn't the TC's come and claim their place in the RoC government so that if there were any attempts made to change the Constitution, the TC's would and could have stopped the GC's. You don't seem to have a problem accepting the belief that the GC properties in the North were abandoned by their owners, so they were given to others, mostly from Turkey to the settlers. Don't you think the GC's will use the same argument, that the TC's abandoned the constitution, so the GC's are going about business as usual and make changes if needed, because the TC's are not interested in being in the RoC government.

I don't know what changes have been made to the constitution, but why do you even care, if you don't have any intentions coming back to the RoC government in the first place. Until the time comes that the TC's would want to come into the RoC to take their rightful places, then at that time, you may raise your objections, to any modifications that may or may not have taken place with the Constitution.

Woh there horsey!!!!

There is gun fire in the streets...The EOKA thugs are rounding up Tcs and killing them by the hundred. Barricades have gone up in every TC enclave and you want a group of TC men to walk into a government building and ask to be taken back. I tell you what back they would have been taken to and that would have been to the back of a great big building and shot. Are you being serious with the reality that you try to paint. Its like Bush walking into an Iraqi village and asking for a hotel room for the night...Are you sure. If you are not going to take the seriousness of the situation into account when you think about these things, how the hell are you going to make sense of it all.

As to the rest of what you wrote then why not have a split if that is the case? So many things have to change if there is to be the slightest chance of unification to work but you are happy for us to walk into an "RoC' that does not cater for us in the slightest. Come on mate...

[DT.]

Kifeas just wants to go to his home and land in the North.

I don't think he wants to become the TERMINATOR.

So do I but not by killing anyone.....Plus I want to have my rights intact. The new EU law that they want to force on us does not give me that. They have changed the constitution by stealth and you not only let them but support them in doing so.......

Zan,

I helped who change the Constitution.???

Let me get this straight Zan. Greece, Turkey and Britain are/were the Guarantors to the safekeeping of the Constitution of Cyprus, and what have they done really.

Greece invaded Cyprus.

Turkey invaded Cyprus.

Britain never left Cyprus.

So why are you not blaming all these Bastards who suppose to safeguard the Constitution instead of blaming me. While we are at it, why didn't the TC's come and claim their place in the RoC government so that if there were any attempts made to change the Constitution, the TC's would and could have stopped the GC's. You don't seem to have a problem accepting the belief that the GC properties in the North were abandoned by their owners, so they were given to others, mostly from Turkey to the settlers. Don't you think the GC's will use the same argument, that the TC's abandoned the constitution, so the GC's are going about business as usual and make changes if needed, because the TC's are not interested in being in the RoC government.

I don't know what changes have been made to the constitution, but why do you even care, if you don't have any intentions coming back to the RoC government in the first place. Until the time comes that the TC's would want to come into the RoC to take their rightful places, then at that time, you may raise your objections, to any modifications that may or may not have taken place with the Constitution.

Woh there horsey!!!!

There is gun fire in the streets...The EOKA thugs are rounding up Tcs and killing them by the hundred. Barricades have gone up in every TC enclave and you want a group of TC men to walk into a government building and ask to be taken back. I tell you what back they would have been taken to and that would have been to the back of a great big building and shot. Are you being serious with the reality that you try to paint. Its like Bush walking into an Iraqi village and asking for a hotel room for the night...Are you sure. If you are not going to take the seriousness of the situation into account when you think about these things, how the hell are you going to make sense of it all.

As to the rest of what you wrote then why not have a split if that is the case? So many things have to change if there is to be the slightest chance of unification to work but you are happy for us to walk into an "RoC' that does not cater for us in the slightest. Come on mate...

tell me Zan...in your mind are all TC's fuzzy little creatures with big inoccent smiles and flowers round their necks and all GC's 9ft hairy werewolves with blood dripping from their mouth?

[zan]

Kifeas just wants to go to his home and land in the North.

I don't think he wants to become the TERMINATOR.

So do I but not by killing anyone.....Plus I want to have my rights intact. The new EU law that they want to force on us does not give me that. They have changed the constitution by stealth and you not only let them but support them in doing so.......

Zan,

I helped who change the Constitution.???

Let me get this straight Zan. Greece, Turkey and Britain are/were the Guarantors to the safekeeping of the Constitution of Cyprus, and what have they done really.

Greece invaded Cyprus.

Turkey invaded Cyprus.

Britain never left Cyprus.

So why are you not blaming all these Bastards who suppose to safeguard the Constitution instead of blaming me. While we are at it, why didn't the TC's come and claim their place in the RoC government so that if there were any attempts made to change the Constitution, the TC's would and could have stopped the GC's. You don't seem to have a problem accepting the belief that the GC properties in the North were abandoned by their owners, so they were given to others, mostly from Turkey to the settlers. Don't you think the GC's will use the same argument, that the TC's abandoned the constitution, so the GC's are going about business as usual and make changes if needed, because the TC's are not interested in being in the RoC government.

I don't know what changes have been made to the constitution, but why do you even care, if you don't have any intentions coming back to the RoC government in the first place. Until the time comes that the TC's would want to come into the RoC to take their rightful places, then at that time, you may raise your objections, to any modifications that may or may not have taken place with the Constitution.

Woh there horsey!!!!

There is gun fire in the streets...The EOKA thugs are rounding up Tcs and killing them by the hundred. Barricades have gone up in every TC enclave and you want a group of TC men to walk into a government building and ask to be taken back. I tell you what back they would have been taken to and that would have been to the back of a great big building and shot. Are you being serious with the reality that you try to paint. Its like Bush walking into an Iraqi village and asking for a hotel room for the night...Are you sure. If you are not going to take the seriousness of the situation into account when you think about these things, how the hell are you going to make sense of it all.

As to the rest of what you wrote then why not have a split if that is the case? So many things have to change if there is to be the slightest chance of unification to work but you are happy for us to walk into an "RoC' that does not cater for us in the slightest. Come on mate...

tell me Zan...in your mind are all TC's fuzzy little creatures with big inoccent smiles and flowers round their necks and all GC's 9ft hairy werewolves with blood dripping from their mouth?

Only between the period of 1963-74 and continued through the bloodline of TPap.

If you knew what my GC friend has done that I am trying to help, then you would not ask me that either.....


Back to the reply. If you want to take it personally DT then I can't help that. The evidence is all there and the more you deny it the more relevant it becomes.

[DT.]

Kifeas just wants to go to his home and land in the North.

I don't think he wants to become the TERMINATOR.

So do I but not by killing anyone.....Plus I want to have my rights intact. The new EU law that they want to force on us does not give me that. They have changed the constitution by stealth and you not only let them but support them in doing so.......

Zan,

I helped who change the Constitution.???

Let me get this straight Zan. Greece, Turkey and Britain are/were the Guarantors to the safekeeping of the Constitution of Cyprus, and what have they done really.

Greece invaded Cyprus.

Turkey invaded Cyprus.

Britain never left Cyprus.

So why are you not blaming all these Bastards who suppose to safeguard the Constitution instead of blaming me. While we are at it, why didn't the TC's come and claim their place in the RoC government so that if there were any attempts made to change the Constitution, the TC's would and could have stopped the GC's. You don't seem to have a problem accepting the belief that the GC properties in the North were abandoned by their owners, so they were given to others, mostly from Turkey to the settlers. Don't you think the GC's will use the same argument, that the TC's abandoned the constitution, so the GC's are going about business as usual and make changes if needed, because the TC's are not interested in being in the RoC government.

I don't know what changes have been made to the constitution, but why do you even care, if you don't have any intentions coming back to the RoC government in the first place. Until the time comes that the TC's would want to come into the RoC to take their rightful places, then at that time, you may raise your objections, to any modifications that may or may not have taken place with the Constitution.

Woh there horsey!!!!

There is gun fire in the streets...The EOKA thugs are rounding up Tcs and killing them by the hundred. Barricades have gone up in every TC enclave and you want a group of TC men to walk into a government building and ask to be taken back. I tell you what back they would have been taken to and that would have been to the back of a great big building and shot. Are you being serious with the reality that you try to paint. Its like Bush walking into an Iraqi village and asking for a hotel room for the night...Are you sure. If you are not going to take the seriousness of the situation into account when you think about these things, how the hell are you going to make sense of it all.

As to the rest of what you wrote then why not have a split if that is the case? So many things have to change if there is to be the slightest chance of unification to work but you are happy for us to walk into an "RoC' that does not cater for us in the slightest. Come on mate...

tell me Zan...in your mind are all TC's fuzzy little creatures with big inoccent smiles and flowers round their necks and all GC's 9ft hairy werewolves with blood dripping from their mouth?

Only between the period of 1963-74 and continued through the bloodline of TPap.

If you knew what my GC friend has done that I am trying to help, then you would not ask me that either.....


Back to the reply. If you want to take it personally DT then I can't help that. The evidence is all there and the more you deny it the more relevant it becomes.

i don't take it personally mate...just figured its late enough to get a little silly.

[zan]

Are the children in bed?????

[DT.]

Are the children in bed?????

you betcha....i got 5 more hours of alone time before this circus starts up again.

[Get Real!]

What right has the "RoC" got to go ahead with this without our say so.

hang on a minute, ain't you the one preaching partition?...you tell me what right you have...

well quess what zan, they are going ahead without your say so and at the same time, make a mockery out of turkey...kinda kill 2 birds with one stone...what do you think aboutr that?

so far you want your rights as per 1960 and to keep the land as well...

ps...i think turkey has run out of casus beli...

I really find this topic a complete waste of time and foolish!
How is anyone making a mockery of Turkey?
Has anyone discovered any oil yet?
Is there anything really economically worth digging out from the bottom of the sea?
Do you know anything about the volume of the oil reserves not drilled out in Turkley itself? (because at the moment it wouldn't be economical)
What will happen if TRNC starts drilling for oil along the Northern Coast?

The whole of NATO got fed up with the friction between Turkey and Greece over the Aegean oil drilling rights that went on for decades. Of course these scientists and researchers knew there was oil somewhere under there (like there is everywhere else in the World). SO WHAT HAPPENED IN THE END? After many moons of threats and military alarms ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

Either this is another attempt to put a new carrot in front of the TCs, because the EU incentive is no longer having any effect, saying "look what you'll be missing out on if you do not agree soon", OR it is an attempt to give more ammo to those GCs who have been saying "we are doing so well economically with very good prospects on the horizon - do we really need the TCs as extra cargo?"

It really serves no purpose interms of getting closer to an agreement. Either way, are TCs "bovvered"?

Enough to make you post a page full...

[zan]

Are the children in bed?????

you betcha....i got 5 more hours of alone time before this circus starts up again.

Does the baby know them rules???

[Get Real!]

I was responding to zan, the preaching partitionist as to what his rights are...

as far as the oil, well a lot of companies showed intrest...as far as bringing it to the top, i will let them do the sums...

I do not see this as an attempt, but as a sovereign right of the RoC...do you disagree with that?

Of course it is the right of RoC to look for oil. But really, you have to look further than that - which RoC we are talking about?

The one you get your passports, ID cards, healthcare, unemployment benefits, and social security from.

[zan]

I was responding to zan, the preaching partitionist as to what his rights are...

as far as the oil, well a lot of companies showed intrest...as far as bringing it to the top, i will let them do the sums...

I do not see this as an attempt, but as a sovereign right of the RoC...do you disagree with that?

Of course it is the right of RoC to look for oil. But really, you have to look further than that - which RoC we are talking about?

The one you get your passports, ID cards, healthcare, unemployment benefits, and social security from.

AHHHHHH! The door to Europe.