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[Piratis]

Mate, we are going in circles. Do you claim that the source you gave contains nothing but the truth? If that is what you claim then you also need to accept everything in the quote that I gave, since it comes from the same website.

Otherwise you have to accept that your anti-GC sources can not be used as evidence for your accusations and propaganda. There are many websites that deal with Makarios, and non of the even slightly objective ones has that quote.

What I say is very simple, so please do not waste more of my time with your childish behavior. I think I dropped enough times to your level already.

[zan]

Mate, we are going in circles. Do you claim that the source you gave contains nothing but the truth? If that is what you claim then you also need to accept everything in the quote that I gave, since it comes from the same website.

Otherwise you have to accept that your anti-GC sources can not be used as evidence for your accusations and propaganda. There are many websites that deal with Makarios, and non of the even slightly objective ones has that quote.

What I say is very simple, so please do not waste more of my time with your childish behavior. I think I dropped enough times to your level already.

So the press quotes are all wrong as well then

I will supply you with a whole lot more...I think I will start with the words of "the great man" asking for intervention in cyprus because he cocked everything up...From his own mouth...See you tonight. Don't bite your nails waiting though.....

[Piratis]

I don't know what other quotes you are talking about, but I am glad you admitted that this particular quote was a fake one, just like I said from the very beginning.

[Murataga]

What I say is very simple

And what I say is even simpler for you to comprehend, so try to keep up this time:

Mate, we are going in circles. Do you claim that the source you gave contains nothing but the truth?

Any human source may contain error, hence, I show you an unrelated, irrelevant and disassociated second source that makes refrence to the same quote in the first one. You can also find it elsewhere ( for example John Reddaway`s article in the International Relations journal ).

If that is what you claim then you also need to accept everything in the quote that I gave, since it comes from the same website.

Not necessarily. There is a huge difference between the quote that I had from that website and the one you did. I showed you an unrelated, irrelevant and disassociated second source (a third one also above) confirming the one I presented. However, I also showed you undisputable evidence that falsifies the quote you chose from that source in an explicit fashion as they were from your very own government sources. Get it?

There are many websites that deal with Makarios, and non of the even slightly objective ones has that quote.

I have serious doubts about your definition of "objective". But just beacuse a website dedicated to Makarios doesn`t mention it doesn`t prove that he didn`t say it. Especially given his numerous speeches on local and international press for dedication to ENOSIS ( even over independence ) as president and offical invitation of the Greek Army bu the thousands to this island.

[Get Real!]

Let me get this straight Murataga,

You are still trying to convince us that you deserve some “points”? because it wasn’t the “Turkses” (which incidentally also contains the same trash) that you got the unsubstantiated crap from but another propaganda site???

What makes you think you get points for that you plonker?

You are so funny man!

Alright, alright, if Piratis agrees we'll give you 1 point to add to your tally so you now have…

0 points (from past debates) + 1 point (consolation prize) = grand total of 1 point!

Happy?

[zan]

GR, you are tthe funny one. I think I saw you somewhere before...Wait, I remember....
[youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leEsz9ci ... ed&search=[/youtube]

The black night that thinks he won something....

[Get Real!]

GR, you are tthe funny one. I think I saw you somewhere before...Wait, I remember....
[youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leEsz9ci ... ed&search=[/youtube]

The black night that thinks he won something....

Unfortunately I can't watch youtube vids for tech reasons but I'm trying to be reasonable with Murataga but it's not easy!

Btw, I did like the "sidekick" bit!

[zan]

GR, you are tthe funny one. I think I saw you somewhere before...Wait, I remember....
[youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leEsz9ci ... ed&search=[/youtube]

The black night that thinks he won something....

Unfortunately I can't watch youtube vids for tech reasons but I'm trying to be reasonable with Murataga but it's not easy!

Btw, I did like the "sidekick" bit!

Hope it will not bruse too much...

[MTN]

Wow, I never expected to see this sort of reaction. What's interesting is that no one actually commented on the offensive post (http://stravara.blogspot.com/2007/08/zei-zh.html). I e-mailed these bloggers and all I got was a reply saying: "leave a comment or leave us alone". Well, no I'm not going to waste my time with commenting on what I still insist is insulting.

But why do you guys simply take advantage of posts in this forum to just insult each other. Both sides of the argument have used inaccurate quotes and notions, not to mention that maybe some avatars used are a bit inappropriate. Within my family there were disagreements over the Annan plan. We argued and discussed. Once the results were in that was that. End of story.

But anyway, there are two points I would like to raise:

1. Whether or not Makarios III was liked or not, you must admit that it was very difficult coping with the sort of isolation and suspicion which he had to endure. I also don't agree with the theory that he tried to annex Cyprus to Greece. I think some people may forget what happened on July 15th 1974.

2. Isn't the presidential election a great opportunity for Turkish Cypriots to vote? Isn't it better to at least try and get heard and make a difference instead of doing what all Cypriots do and passively waut for a solution to be handed to them.

I must say, though, that it certainly gets interesting around here and I'm glad to have found this forum.

regards,

Mike

[DT.]

I go to the beach for 2 days...and i miss a fight like this? You bastards! I've told you before don't do this on weekends i'm not around.

Oh yeah, Murataga....methinks you got your bottom wooped.