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Postby zan » Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:53 pm

We would not want this to get lost in the ether now would we!!

As important a statement of intent as the Akritas plan.



GREEK PRESIDENT - CYPRUS
CNA - Sunday 29th of July 2007


President of the Hellenic Republic Karolos Papoulias expressed the wish that soon enough Cyprus will be free from the Turkish army, which occupies one third of the island’s territory since the Turkish invasion of 1974.

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President Papoulias, who arrived Saturday in Cyprus to participate in events commemorating the anniversary of the death of the late Archbishop Makarios III, the Republic’s first elected president after independence in 1960, had this afternoon a private meeting with Cyprus President Tassos Papadopoulos.

Asked about his meeting with President Papadopoulos, the Greek President said it was a “friendly, cordial and patriotic” meeting.

Later on, the Greek President signed the visitors’ book at the Presidential Palace where he wrote: “I am deeply touched, being here, in a historic place, a place of remembrance of the heroic struggle of Cypriot Hellenism for freedom and independence. I am glad that the struggle has given a lot and I expect that the great day will come soon, when Cyprus will be free from the occupation armies and when a final settlement will be achieved, a just and viable one, to the benefit and for the prosperity of the Cypriot Hellenism”.

The two Presidents departed from the Presidential Palace for the Nicosia Municipal Theatre to attend an oratorio to mark 30 years since Makarios’ death.

On Sunday morning, the two Presidents will go to Kykkos Monastery for a church service, officiated by Bishop of Kykkos and Tiliria Nikiforos, who will then host a lunch for the high guests, attended also by the primate of the church of Cyprus Archbishop Chrysostomos II.

Papoulias will have a meeting on Sunday afternoon with House President Demetris Christofias and former Foreign Minister Ioannis Kasoulides, both of whom are running for the presidency in next February’s elections. Papadopoulos has also announced his bid for reelection.

On Sunday evening Papadopoulos and Papoulias will address a special memorial at the University of Cyprus, with the Greek Minister of Interior, Public Administration and Decentralisation Prokopis Pavlopoulos being the key note speaker.

Papoulias leaves Cyprus on Monday.


http://lgr.co.uk/news/cyprus/8426/greek ... nt-cyprus/
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Re: LGR>>>

Postby DT. » Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:58 pm

zan wrote:We would not want this to get lost in the ether now would we!!

As important a statement of intent as the Akritas plan.



GREEK PRESIDENT - CYPRUS
CNA - Sunday 29th of July 2007


President of the Hellenic Republic Karolos Papoulias expressed the wish that soon enough Cyprus will be free from the Turkish army, which occupies one third of the island’s territory since the Turkish invasion of 1974.

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President Papoulias, who arrived Saturday in Cyprus to participate in events commemorating the anniversary of the death of the late Archbishop Makarios III, the Republic’s first elected president after independence in 1960, had this afternoon a private meeting with Cyprus President Tassos Papadopoulos.

Asked about his meeting with President Papadopoulos, the Greek President said it was a “friendly, cordial and patriotic” meeting.

Later on, the Greek President signed the visitors’ book at the Presidential Palace where he wrote: “I am deeply touched, being here, in a historic place, a place of remembrance of the heroic struggle of Cypriot Hellenism for freedom and independence. I am glad that the struggle has given a lot and I expect that the great day will come soon, when Cyprus will be free from the occupation armies and when a final settlement will be achieved, a just and viable one, to the benefit and for the prosperity of the Cypriot Hellenism”.

The two Presidents departed from the Presidential Palace for the Nicosia Municipal Theatre to attend an oratorio to mark 30 years since Makarios’ death.

On Sunday morning, the two Presidents will go to Kykkos Monastery for a church service, officiated by Bishop of Kykkos and Tiliria Nikiforos, who will then host a lunch for the high guests, attended also by the primate of the church of Cyprus Archbishop Chrysostomos II.

Papoulias will have a meeting on Sunday afternoon with House President Demetris Christofias and former Foreign Minister Ioannis Kasoulides, both of whom are running for the presidency in next February’s elections. Papadopoulos has also announced his bid for reelection.

On Sunday evening Papadopoulos and Papoulias will address a special memorial at the University of Cyprus, with the Greek Minister of Interior, Public Administration and Decentralisation Prokopis Pavlopoulos being the key note speaker.

Papoulias leaves Cyprus on Monday.


http://lgr.co.uk/news/cyprus/8426/greek ... nt-cyprus/


Personally i don't see anything wrong with wishing all foreign occupation troops were withdrawn....

Secondly regarding the Cypriot Hellenism part, you've homogenised the island into just turkish and just Greek parts with your "peace operation" what do you expect to hear?

Your Chief of millitary was just quoted as saying that the turkish troops have only liberated one half of the island...and you're telling me about visiting makarios's grave? :wink:
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Postby zan » Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:59 pm

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zan wrote:
The point is what is the south become and what are its aspirations. We do not want anything to do with the south if it does not want us and then we get this:

This from LGR (London Greek Radio.
Quote:

President of the Hellenic Republic Karolos Papoulias expressed the wish that soon enough Cyprus will be free from the Turkish army, which occupies one third of the island’s territory since the Turkish invasion of 1974.

Top stories
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President Papoulias, who arrived Saturday in Cyprus to participate in events commemorating the anniversary of the death of the late Archbishop Makarios III, the Republic’s first elected president after independence in 1960, had this afternoon a private meeting with Cyprus President Tassos Papadopoulos.

Asked about his meeting with President Papadopoulos, the Greek President said it was a “friendly, cordial and patriotic” meeting.

Later on, the Greek President signed the visitors’ book at the Presidential Palace where he wrote: “I am deeply touched, being here, in a historic place, a place of remembrance of the heroic struggle of Cypriot Hellenism for freedom and independence. I am glad that the struggle has given a lot and I expect that the great day will come soon, when Cyprus will be free from the occupation armies and when a final settlement will be achieved, a just and viable one, to the benefit and for the prosperity of the Cypriot Hellenism”.

The two Presidents departed from the Presidential Palace for the Nicosia Municipal Theatre to attend an oratorio to mark 30 years since Makarios’ death.

On Sunday morning, the two Presidents will go to Kykkos Monastery for a church service, officiated by Bishop of Kykkos and Tiliria Nikiforos, who will then host a lunch for the high guests, attended also by the primate of the church of Cyprus Archbishop Chrysostomos II.

Papoulias will have a meeting on Sunday afternoon with House President Demetris Christofias and former Foreign Minister Ioannis Kasoulides, both of whom are running for the presidency in next February’s elections. Papadopoulos has also announced his bid for reelection.

On Sunday evening Papadopoulos and Papoulias will address a special memorial at the University of Cyprus, with the Greek Minister of Interior, Public Administration and Decentralisation Prokopis Pavlopoulos being the key note speaker.

Papoulias leaves Cyprus on Monday.



You keep trying to promote a country that has just wants to be another Greek island and expect us to lie down and take it. You really really need to have another rethink about who you are or rather who you want to be.


Personally i don't see anything wrong with wishing all foreign occupation troops were withdrawn....

Secondly regarding the Cypriot Hellenism part, you've homogenised the island into just turkish and just Greek parts with your "peace operation" what do you expect to hear?

Your Chief of millitary was just quoted as saying that the turkish troops have only liberated one half of the island...and you're telling me about visiting makarios's grave?



What we want and what the "RoC" that claims to represent the whole island wants are two separate things. It is not us that is saying to you that we want the whole island to do with as we wish but you. We as part owners of the island are saying that Hellenisation of the island is out of the question. The Zurich agreement made provisions to prevent that and the Annan Plan made provisions to prevent that and you tried to either change it so you could do what you wanted illegally or you voted OXI to it against the UN's wishes and aims. Now you and Kikapu and Birkibrisli want to convince us that our lives and identity is safe in your hands and the case is the absolute opposite. This should wring alarm bells in both my "Turkish" brothers heads but they either chose to ignore it or try to justify it. The truth is out there DT and it does not take much to find it when your own officials are telling us what they want. It is the ones on this Forum that are trying to blur the edges. We even know that TPap wants the same thing and lays claim to the whole island as being a Hellenic state so why are you surprised that we fight against it and the UN and the EU see us as being right to do so.
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Postby DT. » Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:07 pm

zan wrote:DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
The point is what is the south become and what are its aspirations. We do not want anything to do with the south if it does not want us and then we get this:

This from LGR (London Greek Radio.
Quote:

President of the Hellenic Republic Karolos Papoulias expressed the wish that soon enough Cyprus will be free from the Turkish army, which occupies one third of the island’s territory since the Turkish invasion of 1974.

Top stories
Funeral held for Blow-Up director
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President Papoulias, who arrived Saturday in Cyprus to participate in events commemorating the anniversary of the death of the late Archbishop Makarios III, the Republic’s first elected president after independence in 1960, had this afternoon a private meeting with Cyprus President Tassos Papadopoulos.

Asked about his meeting with President Papadopoulos, the Greek President said it was a “friendly, cordial and patriotic” meeting.

Later on, the Greek President signed the visitors’ book at the Presidential Palace where he wrote: “I am deeply touched, being here, in a historic place, a place of remembrance of the heroic struggle of Cypriot Hellenism for freedom and independence. I am glad that the struggle has given a lot and I expect that the great day will come soon, when Cyprus will be free from the occupation armies and when a final settlement will be achieved, a just and viable one, to the benefit and for the prosperity of the Cypriot Hellenism”.

The two Presidents departed from the Presidential Palace for the Nicosia Municipal Theatre to attend an oratorio to mark 30 years since Makarios’ death.

On Sunday morning, the two Presidents will go to Kykkos Monastery for a church service, officiated by Bishop of Kykkos and Tiliria Nikiforos, who will then host a lunch for the high guests, attended also by the primate of the church of Cyprus Archbishop Chrysostomos II.

Papoulias will have a meeting on Sunday afternoon with House President Demetris Christofias and former Foreign Minister Ioannis Kasoulides, both of whom are running for the presidency in next February’s elections. Papadopoulos has also announced his bid for reelection.

On Sunday evening Papadopoulos and Papoulias will address a special memorial at the University of Cyprus, with the Greek Minister of Interior, Public Administration and Decentralisation Prokopis Pavlopoulos being the key note speaker.

Papoulias leaves Cyprus on Monday.



You keep trying to promote a country that has just wants to be another Greek island and expect us to lie down and take it. You really really need to have another rethink about who you are or rather who you want to be.


Personally i don't see anything wrong with wishing all foreign occupation troops were withdrawn....

Secondly regarding the Cypriot Hellenism part, you've homogenised the island into just turkish and just Greek parts with your "peace operation" what do you expect to hear?

Your Chief of millitary was just quoted as saying that the turkish troops have only liberated one half of the island...and you're telling me about visiting makarios's grave?


What we want and what the "RoC" that claims to represent the whole island wants are two separate things. It is not us that is saying to you that we want the whole island to do with as we wish but you. We as part owners of the island are saying that Hellenisation of the island is out of the question. The Zurich agreement made provisions to prevent that and the Annan Plan made provisions to prevent that and you tried to either change it so you could do what you wanted illegally or you voted OXI to it against the UN's wishes and aims. Now you and Kikapu and Birkibrisli want to convince us that our lives and identity is safe in your hands and the case is the absolute opposite. This should wring alarm bells in both my "Turkish" brothers heads but they either chose to ignore it or try to justify it. The truth is out there DT and it does not take much to find it when your own officials are telling us what they want. It is the ones on this Forum that are trying to blur the edges. We even know that TPap wants the same thing and lays claim to the whole island as being a Hellenic state so why are you surprised that we fight against it and the UN and the EU see us as being right to do so.


What we voted no to was the turkification of one half of the island and Turkeys hand officially on the dealings of the other half.

It is you that have erased villages names and turned them turkish overnight
It is you that have demolished churches or added minarets to them.
It is you that cleansed the entire part of the north of Cyprus from anything Greek
It is you that have declared monetary union with turkey

we've made a hell of a lot of mistakes...hell the guy sitting in the rpesidential palace right now is a mistake. The difference betwen us though is that we would never have put up with 30 years of denktash as we will never put up with another term from Tpap.

We are a member of the EU. Our island is open to any other EU member citizen. There is no need for paranoia regarding enosis because if you haven't noticed we are already united with Greece in the same way we are with France and the Netherlands....we have no customs, we use the same currency, we follow the same agriculture policy etc...

Shake of the paranoia....we got slaughtered by 40,000 troops a lot more recently than during the 60's. We got over the paranoia why can't you?
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Postby free_cyprus » Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:17 pm

here we go again we are up and running again with verbal shitology from turkish and greek speaking cypriots, nice one guys please continue your doing a fab job
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Postby zan » Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:26 pm

DT. wrote:
zan wrote:DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
The point is what is the south become and what are its aspirations. We do not want anything to do with the south if it does not want us and then we get this:

This from LGR (London Greek Radio.
Quote:

President of the Hellenic Republic Karolos Papoulias expressed the wish that soon enough Cyprus will be free from the Turkish army, which occupies one third of the island’s territory since the Turkish invasion of 1974.

Top stories
Funeral held for Blow-Up director
Rice says Israel ready to talk peace fundamentals
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President Papoulias, who arrived Saturday in Cyprus to participate in events commemorating the anniversary of the death of the late Archbishop Makarios III, the Republic’s first elected president after independence in 1960, had this afternoon a private meeting with Cyprus President Tassos Papadopoulos.

Asked about his meeting with President Papadopoulos, the Greek President said it was a “friendly, cordial and patriotic” meeting.

Later on, the Greek President signed the visitors’ book at the Presidential Palace where he wrote: “I am deeply touched, being here, in a historic place, a place of remembrance of the heroic struggle of Cypriot Hellenism for freedom and independence. I am glad that the struggle has given a lot and I expect that the great day will come soon, when Cyprus will be free from the occupation armies and when a final settlement will be achieved, a just and viable one, to the benefit and for the prosperity of the Cypriot Hellenism”.

The two Presidents departed from the Presidential Palace for the Nicosia Municipal Theatre to attend an oratorio to mark 30 years since Makarios’ death.

On Sunday morning, the two Presidents will go to Kykkos Monastery for a church service, officiated by Bishop of Kykkos and Tiliria Nikiforos, who will then host a lunch for the high guests, attended also by the primate of the church of Cyprus Archbishop Chrysostomos II.

Papoulias will have a meeting on Sunday afternoon with House President Demetris Christofias and former Foreign Minister Ioannis Kasoulides, both of whom are running for the presidency in next February’s elections. Papadopoulos has also announced his bid for reelection.

On Sunday evening Papadopoulos and Papoulias will address a special memorial at the University of Cyprus, with the Greek Minister of Interior, Public Administration and Decentralisation Prokopis Pavlopoulos being the key note speaker.

Papoulias leaves Cyprus on Monday.



You keep trying to promote a country that has just wants to be another Greek island and expect us to lie down and take it. You really really need to have another rethink about who you are or rather who you want to be.


Personally i don't see anything wrong with wishing all foreign occupation troops were withdrawn....

Secondly regarding the Cypriot Hellenism part, you've homogenised the island into just turkish and just Greek parts with your "peace operation" what do you expect to hear?

Your Chief of millitary was just quoted as saying that the turkish troops have only liberated one half of the island...and you're telling me about visiting makarios's grave?


What we want and what the "RoC" that claims to represent the whole island wants are two separate things. It is not us that is saying to you that we want the whole island to do with as we wish but you. We as part owners of the island are saying that Hellenisation of the island is out of the question. The Zurich agreement made provisions to prevent that and the Annan Plan made provisions to prevent that and you tried to either change it so you could do what you wanted illegally or you voted OXI to it against the UN's wishes and aims. Now you and Kikapu and Birkibrisli want to convince us that our lives and identity is safe in your hands and the case is the absolute opposite. This should wring alarm bells in both my "Turkish" brothers heads but they either chose to ignore it or try to justify it. The truth is out there DT and it does not take much to find it when your own officials are telling us what they want. It is the ones on this Forum that are trying to blur the edges. We even know that TPap wants the same thing and lays claim to the whole island as being a Hellenic state so why are you surprised that we fight against it and the UN and the EU see us as being right to do so.


What we voted no to was the turkification of one half of the island and Turkeys hand officially on the dealings of the other half.

It is you that have erased villages names and turned them turkish overnight
It is you that have demolished churches or added minarets to them.
It is you that cleansed the entire part of the north of Cyprus from anything Greek
It is you that have declared monetary union with turkey

we've made a hell of a lot of mistakes...hell the guy sitting in the rpesidential palace right now is a mistake. The difference betwen us though is that we would never have put up with 30 years of denktash as we will never put up with another term from Tpap.

We are a member of the EU. Our island is open to any other EU member citizen. There is no need for paranoia regarding enosis because if you haven't noticed we are already united with Greece in the same way we are with France and the Netherlands....we have no customs, we use the same currency, we follow the same agriculture policy etc...

Shake of the paranoia....we got slaughtered by 40,000 troops a lot more recently than during the 60's. We got over the paranoia why can't you?


Really :shock: Get over the paranoia of what? That your president calls a Gc that dares to speak up for all Cypriots a "Turk Lover". And that your many other representatives are telling us that they want to Hellenise the island TODAY!!!!!! That we have to stand by and listen to the Greek national anthem being played at so called "Cypriot" events.

We took out part of the island because we were not only being starved because we would not give in to the Hellenisation of a part Turkish owned island, but we were systematically being killed for it. You treat our part of history as being some past generation when you are talking to a victim of it right here right now. Boy you guys were arrogant before but now you are let into the EU UNDER FALSE PRETENCES, you have gone ballistic....
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Postby DT. » Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:30 pm

Part Turkish owned land??????WHere did you hear that Zan?
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:31 pm

DT. wrote:
zan wrote:DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
The point is what is the south become and what are its aspirations. We do not want anything to do with the south if it does not want us and then we get this:

This from LGR (London Greek Radio.
Quote:

President of the Hellenic Republic Karolos Papoulias expressed the wish that soon enough Cyprus will be free from the Turkish army, which occupies one third of the island’s territory since the Turkish invasion of 1974.

Top stories
Funeral held for Blow-Up director
Rice says Israel ready to talk peace fundamentals
Russia plants flag in Arctic Ocean territorial claim

President Papoulias, who arrived Saturday in Cyprus to participate in events commemorating the anniversary of the death of the late Archbishop Makarios III, the Republic’s first elected president after independence in 1960, had this afternoon a private meeting with Cyprus President Tassos Papadopoulos.

Asked about his meeting with President Papadopoulos, the Greek President said it was a “friendly, cordial and patriotic” meeting.

Later on, the Greek President signed the visitors’ book at the Presidential Palace where he wrote: “I am deeply touched, being here, in a historic place, a place of remembrance of the heroic struggle of Cypriot Hellenism for freedom and independence. I am glad that the struggle has given a lot and I expect that the great day will come soon, when Cyprus will be free from the occupation armies and when a final settlement will be achieved, a just and viable one, to the benefit and for the prosperity of the Cypriot Hellenism”.

The two Presidents departed from the Presidential Palace for the Nicosia Municipal Theatre to attend an oratorio to mark 30 years since Makarios’ death.

On Sunday morning, the two Presidents will go to Kykkos Monastery for a church service, officiated by Bishop of Kykkos and Tiliria Nikiforos, who will then host a lunch for the high guests, attended also by the primate of the church of Cyprus Archbishop Chrysostomos II.

Papoulias will have a meeting on Sunday afternoon with House President Demetris Christofias and former Foreign Minister Ioannis Kasoulides, both of whom are running for the presidency in next February’s elections. Papadopoulos has also announced his bid for reelection.

On Sunday evening Papadopoulos and Papoulias will address a special memorial at the University of Cyprus, with the Greek Minister of Interior, Public Administration and Decentralisation Prokopis Pavlopoulos being the key note speaker.

Papoulias leaves Cyprus on Monday.



You keep trying to promote a country that has just wants to be another Greek island and expect us to lie down and take it. You really really need to have another rethink about who you are or rather who you want to be.


Personally i don't see anything wrong with wishing all foreign occupation troops were withdrawn....

Secondly regarding the Cypriot Hellenism part, you've homogenised the island into just turkish and just Greek parts with your "peace operation" what do you expect to hear?

Your Chief of millitary was just quoted as saying that the turkish troops have only liberated one half of the island...and you're telling me about visiting makarios's grave?


What we want and what the "RoC" that claims to represent the whole island wants are two separate things. It is not us that is saying to you that we want the whole island to do with as we wish but you. We as part owners of the island are saying that Hellenisation of the island is out of the question. The Zurich agreement made provisions to prevent that and the Annan Plan made provisions to prevent that and you tried to either change it so you could do what you wanted illegally or you voted OXI to it against the UN's wishes and aims. Now you and Kikapu and Birkibrisli want to convince us that our lives and identity is safe in your hands and the case is the absolute opposite. This should wring alarm bells in both my "Turkish" brothers heads but they either chose to ignore it or try to justify it. The truth is out there DT and it does not take much to find it when your own officials are telling us what they want. It is the ones on this Forum that are trying to blur the edges. We even know that TPap wants the same thing and lays claim to the whole island as being a Hellenic state so why are you surprised that we fight against it and the UN and the EU see us as being right to do so.


What we voted no to was the turkification of one half of the island and Turkeys hand officially on the dealings of the other half.

It is you that have erased villages names and turned them turkish overnight
It is you that have demolished churches or added minarets to them.
It is you that cleansed the entire part of the north of Cyprus from anything Greek
It is you that have declared monetary union with turkey

we've made a hell of a lot of mistakes...hell the guy sitting in the rpesidential palace right now is a mistake. The difference betwen us though is that we would never have put up with 30 years of denktash as we will never put up with another term from Tpap.

We are a member of the EU. Our island is open to any other EU member citizen. There is no need for paranoia regarding enosis because if you haven't noticed we are already united with Greece in the same way we are with France and the Netherlands....we have no customs, we use the same currency, we follow the same agriculture policy etc...

Shake of the paranoia....we got slaughtered by 40,000 troops a lot more recently than during the 60's. We got over the paranoia why can't you?


Will you eat your words when Papadop is re-elected? you GCs will vote the guy right back in as you are happy with his policies and support him 100% on the Cyprus issue.

Give us valid reasons to shake off the paranoia, you may be in the EU but we are obvioulsly not and do not claim to be, your packaging may have changed but the ideologies of GC dominance and turning the TCs into just another minority like the Pakistanis in the UK is still the same.
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Postby zan » Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:33 pm

DT. wrote:Part Turkish owned land??????WHere did you hear that Zan?


I meant Turkish Cypriot in the context that I wrote it DT and well you know it. Or is that what you are disputing??
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Postby DT. » Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:37 pm

zan wrote:
DT. wrote:Part Turkish owned land??????WHere did you hear that Zan?


I meant Turkish Cypriot in the context that I wrote it DT and well you know it. Or is that what you are disputing??


There's a big difference between the 2 Zan. Although i still don't get how you can claim that either. You don't consider the 1960 constitution worthy of toilet paper, yet you flag it up everytime you want to claim that one part of this paper you agree with. TO hell with the rest of it?
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