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[Pyrpolizer]

The point is what is the south become and what are its aspirations. We do not want anything to do with the south if it does not want us and then we get this:

This from LGR (London Greek Radio.

President of the Hellenic Republic Karolos Papoulias expressed the wish that soon enough Cyprus will be free from the Turkish army, which occupies one third of the island’s territory since the Turkish invasion of 1974.

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President Papoulias, who arrived Saturday in Cyprus to participate in events commemorating the anniversary of the death of the late Archbishop Makarios III, the Republic’s first elected president after independence in 1960, had this afternoon a private meeting with Cyprus President Tassos Papadopoulos.

Asked about his meeting with President Papadopoulos, the Greek President said it was a “friendly, cordial and patriotic” meeting.

Later on, the Greek President signed the visitors’ book at the Presidential Palace where he wrote: “I am deeply touched, being here, in a historic place, a place of remembrance of the heroic struggle of Cypriot Hellenism for freedom and independence. I am glad that the struggle has given a lot and I expect that the great day will come soon, when Cyprus will be free from the occupation armies and when a final settlement will be achieved, a just and viable one, to the benefit and for the prosperity of the Cypriot Hellenism”.

The two Presidents departed from the Presidential Palace for the Nicosia Municipal Theatre to attend an oratorio to mark 30 years since Makarios’ death.

On Sunday morning, the two Presidents will go to Kykkos Monastery for a church service, officiated by Bishop of Kykkos and Tiliria Nikiforos, who will then host a lunch for the high guests, attended also by the primate of the church of Cyprus Archbishop Chrysostomos II.

Papoulias will have a meeting on Sunday afternoon with House President Demetris Christofias and former Foreign Minister Ioannis Kasoulides, both of whom are running for the presidency in next February’s elections. Papadopoulos has also announced his bid for reelection.

On Sunday evening Papadopoulos and Papoulias will address a special memorial at the University of Cyprus, with the Greek Minister of Interior, Public Administration and Decentralisation Prokopis Pavlopoulos being the key note speaker.

Papoulias leaves Cyprus on Monday.

You keep trying to promote a country that has just wants to be another Greek island and expect us to lie down and take it. You really really need to have another rethink about who you are or rather who you want to be.

Yes you posted this article before, but since you seem to be so confident I thought of reading all of it. Would you mind underlining us/quoting us/bolding for us/ the parts that support your claims???????????

Here's your chance Zan to prove yourself in this forum.

[DT.]

The point is what is the south become and what are its aspirations. We do not want anything to do with the south if it does not want us and then we get this:

This from LGR (London Greek Radio.

President of the Hellenic Republic Karolos Papoulias expressed the wish that soon enough Cyprus will be free from the Turkish army, which occupies one third of the island’s territory since the Turkish invasion of 1974.

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President Papoulias, who arrived Saturday in Cyprus to participate in events commemorating the anniversary of the death of the late Archbishop Makarios III, the Republic’s first elected president after independence in 1960, had this afternoon a private meeting with Cyprus President Tassos Papadopoulos.

Asked about his meeting with President Papadopoulos, the Greek President said it was a “friendly, cordial and patriotic” meeting.

Later on, the Greek President signed the visitors’ book at the Presidential Palace where he wrote: “I am deeply touched, being here, in a historic place, a place of remembrance of the heroic struggle of Cypriot Hellenism for freedom and independence. I am glad that the struggle has given a lot and I expect that the great day will come soon, when Cyprus will be free from the occupation armies and when a final settlement will be achieved, a just and viable one, to the benefit and for the prosperity of the Cypriot Hellenism”.

The two Presidents departed from the Presidential Palace for the Nicosia Municipal Theatre to attend an oratorio to mark 30 years since Makarios’ death.

On Sunday morning, the two Presidents will go to Kykkos Monastery for a church service, officiated by Bishop of Kykkos and Tiliria Nikiforos, who will then host a lunch for the high guests, attended also by the primate of the church of Cyprus Archbishop Chrysostomos II.

Papoulias will have a meeting on Sunday afternoon with House President Demetris Christofias and former Foreign Minister Ioannis Kasoulides, both of whom are running for the presidency in next February’s elections. Papadopoulos has also announced his bid for reelection.

On Sunday evening Papadopoulos and Papoulias will address a special memorial at the University of Cyprus, with the Greek Minister of Interior, Public Administration and Decentralisation Prokopis Pavlopoulos being the key note speaker.

Papoulias leaves Cyprus on Monday.

You keep trying to promote a country that has just wants to be another Greek island and expect us to lie down and take it. You really really need to have another rethink about who you are or rather who you want to be.

Personally i don't see anything wrong with wishing all foreign occupation troops were withdrawn....

Secondly regarding the Cypriot Hellenism part, you've homogenised the island into just turkish and just Greek parts with your "peace operation" what do you expect to hear?

Your Chief of millitary was just quoted as saying that the turkish troops have only liberated one half of the island...and you're telling me about visiting makarios's grave?

[zan]

The point is what is the south become and what are its aspirations. We do not want anything to do with the south if it does not want us and then we get this:

This from LGR (London Greek Radio.

President of the Hellenic Republic Karolos Papoulias expressed the wish that soon enough Cyprus will be free from the Turkish army, which occupies one third of the island’s territory since the Turkish invasion of 1974.

Top stories
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President Papoulias, who arrived Saturday in Cyprus to participate in events commemorating the anniversary of the death of the late Archbishop Makarios III, the Republic’s first elected president after independence in 1960, had this afternoon a private meeting with Cyprus President Tassos Papadopoulos.

Asked about his meeting with President Papadopoulos, the Greek President said it was a “friendly, cordial and patriotic” meeting.

Later on, the Greek President signed the visitors’ book at the Presidential Palace where he wrote: “I am deeply touched, being here, in a historic place, a place of remembrance of the heroic struggle of Cypriot Hellenism for freedom and independence. I am glad that the struggle has given a lot and I expect that the great day will come soon, when Cyprus will be free from the occupation armies and when a final settlement will be achieved, a just and viable one, to the benefit and for the prosperity of the Cypriot Hellenism”.

The two Presidents departed from the Presidential Palace for the Nicosia Municipal Theatre to attend an oratorio to mark 30 years since Makarios’ death.

On Sunday morning, the two Presidents will go to Kykkos Monastery for a church service, officiated by Bishop of Kykkos and Tiliria Nikiforos, who will then host a lunch for the high guests, attended also by the primate of the church of Cyprus Archbishop Chrysostomos II.

Papoulias will have a meeting on Sunday afternoon with House President Demetris Christofias and former Foreign Minister Ioannis Kasoulides, both of whom are running for the presidency in next February’s elections. Papadopoulos has also announced his bid for reelection.

On Sunday evening Papadopoulos and Papoulias will address a special memorial at the University of Cyprus, with the Greek Minister of Interior, Public Administration and Decentralisation Prokopis Pavlopoulos being the key note speaker.

Papoulias leaves Cyprus on Monday.

You keep trying to promote a country that has just wants to be another Greek island and expect us to lie down and take it. You really really need to have another rethink about who you are or rather who you want to be.

Personally i don't see anything wrong with wishing all foreign occupation troops were withdrawn....

Secondly regarding the Cypriot Hellenism part, you've homogenised the island into just turkish and just Greek parts with your "peace operation" what do you expect to hear?

Your Chief of millitary was just quoted as saying that the turkish troops have only liberated one half of the island...and you're telling me about visiting makarios's grave?

What we want and what the "RoC" that claims to represent the whole island wants are two separate things. It is not us that is saying to you that we want the whole island to do with as we wish but you. We as part owners of the island are saying that Hellenisation of the island is out of the question. The Zurich agreement made provisions to prevent that and the Annan Plan made provisions to prevent that and you tried to either change it so you could do what you wanted illegally or you voted OXI to it against the UN's wishes and aims. Now you and Kikapu and Birkibrisli want to convince us that our lives and identity is safe in your hands and the case is the absolute opposite. This should wring alarm bells in both my "Turkish" brothers heads but they either chose to ignore it or try to justify it. The truth is out there DT and it does not take much to find it when your own officials are telling us what they want. It is the ones on this Forum that are trying to blur the edges. We even know that TPap wants the same thing and lays claim to the whole island as being a Hellenic state so why are you surprised that we fight against it and the UN and the EU see us as being right to do so.

[Pyrpolizer]

I just noticed Kikapus topic has been deliberately destroyed.
What's all these have to do with the topic?????

[Kikapu]

I just noticed Kikapus topic has been deliberately destroyed.
What's all these have to do with the topic?????

It wasn't much of a Topic actually Pyro, but an interesting article of today's situation facing any peace process. I don't know why some are trying to divert attention from reality, and it must be the truth, because it has not been countered with any kinds of accusations, but instead unrelated materials from the past. Any intelligent reader will know, what goes on here, so why waste time with all the "smoke screens" to try and derail what's in the public domain, as the initial report was.

The report does add a lot of credence to my conversation with my cousin's husband however, regarding the land issues and peace.

[bigOz]

EVERYWHERE!

But like Attila 2 (settlers) this is going to have an impact on Tcs eventually.
Hmm.... any ideas anyone?

Attila titles are becoming popular like the Rambo1, 2, 3, ...123 - Maybe the ministers should stop busying themselves with such matters as an excuse for not negotiating with TCs, and hurry up to come to some sensible political agrrement soon! Or even the 5th Attila might come in from the most unexpected places...

Anyone who expects properties to stay idle forever, after many decades of no solution in sight, must be very optimistic to say the least! The more this drags on, the more TCs give up hope for an agreement, and the more buildings will spring up on once GC owned land - who is going to demolish them?

SO lets carry on debating for another 10 years and see what happens!

[zan]

I just noticed Kikapus topic has been deliberately destroyed.
What's all these have to do with the topic?????

It wasn't much of a Topic actually Pyro, but an interesting article of today's situation facing any peace process. I don't know why some are trying to divert attention from reality, and it must be the truth, because it has not been countered with any kinds of accusations, but instead unrelated materials from the past. Any intelligent reader will know, what goes on here, so why waste time with all the "smoke screens" to try and derail what's in the public domain, as the initial report was.

The report does add a lot of credence to my conversation with my cousin's husband however, regarding the land issues and peace.

The point of anything that is posted on any thread is that all things are related and you will only comment on things that make the Tcs look bad and apply no justification as to why things are the way they are today. For every yin there is a yan and all you do is point out the yanus'. The reasons why the Greeks are treating us like shit???? Care to offer an opinion. Sorry mate, but as I said before...You are nothing more than the Greek Nationalist mouth piece. Not one word of justification has come out of your mouth but condemnation of a long suffering people seems to come naturally. Have you read Alkan Chaglars section on Wikipedia? If you have discovered your Christian roots then good luck to you but please nail your colors to the post....

[Pyrpolizer]

@bigOz.
I guess we should start designing some video game titles then like Sampson II, or Grivas X
The TC owned properties in the northern part are more than enough to sell to foreigners. We have huge parts in our on towns that while the whole town is developed those parts look like stucked in previous century. Yet we don't do it because they don't belong to us.
IF development was an absolute necessity for the TCs they could have put down as AN ISSUE OF PRIORITY and discuss that issue alone on the basis of exhcanging some lands. Who would dare refuse to even discuss it? And if our side would not accept, the TCs would at least have evidence they showed good will and caring for the loss of their presumable "compatriots". Where i that EVIDENCE BigOz????

@Zan
a)Why not just make a huge topic then called "Cyprob-everything is realted" and put everything in there?
b)Imo you tried to destroy Kikapu's topic deliberately
c)This is a debating forum. Don't expect much coverage from ANY participant of both sides of the story. You have to pinch/pick/nail the few acknowledgements regarding the past and current suffering of the "other side" when you find them. I am sure you never tried that.
d)Just show me one post proving your claim I am a Nationalist. (Except my numerous posts saying "LONG LIVE THE NEW CYPRUS NATION TO BE")

[bigOz]

@bigOz.
I guess we should start designing some video game titles then like Sampson II, or Grivas X
The TC owned properties in the northern part are more than enough to sell to foreigners. We have huge parts in our on towns that while the whole town is developed those parts look like stucked in previous century. Yet we don't do it because they don't belong to us.
IF development was an absolute necessity for the TCs they could have put down as AN ISSUE OF PRIORITY and discuss that issue alone on the basis of exhcanging some lands. Who would dare refuse to even discuss it? And if our side would not accept, the TCs would at least have evidence they showed good will and caring for the loss of their presumable "compatriots". Where i that EVIDENCE BigOz????

Well, I thought all this would be part and parcel of any negotiations prior to a final egreement on a bi-zonal federal island. What I mean P, is that these issues are not for isolated discussions but a part of a much larger scale of issues that need to be sorted between the two comunities...

We are not fighting but we are not getting anywhere either! What has been happening for the past 4 1/2 years? That is the question that everyone should be asking - not debating about what was left where, when, by whom!

[Eliko]

Have you ever watched the behaviour of a 'Gaggle of Geese' when they get together?, the nearest thing to a meeting of political representatives in the Animal Kingdom.

Plenty of head movement, lots of noise at the slightest interference and nothing constructive when the meeting is over, except for the heaps of shite they leave behind.

Even worse when they are pissed !!.