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Postby Piratis » Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:55 pm

In fact no TC was touched in 1974 until the Turkish troops invaded.


Was it after 1974 or before


Before 74(=not in 74).

The bicommunal fights (we had many GCs dead by the way during that time), were from 63 to 67.

In 74 Turkey found an excuse to invade and occupy Cyprus, and it had nothing to do with the protection of TCs.
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Postby insan » Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:05 pm

Which fascists were the leaders of the both of those EOKAs? How can the fascists be considered as the liberation fighters? How did "the liberation fighters" of GCs embrace such a well known monarco-fascist Grivas? Tell us more stories Piratis.

Reconciliation after the so-called reuinfication of Cyprus, blah, blah, blah.... You rather call it second tradgedy of Cyprus.
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Postby turkcyp » Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:11 pm

Piratis wrote:Before 74(=not in 74).

The bicommunal fights (we had many GCs dead by the way during that time), were from 63 to 67.


So the fact that EOKA killed TCs before 1974 but in 1974 they did not kill any, makes it OK to be a liberator but not a terrorist organization.

In 74 Turkey found an excuse to invade and occupy Cyprus, and it had nothing to do with the protection of TCs.


And we as TCs were supposed to trust the GCs (EOKA B namely) that can even kill other GCs whereas we do not trust the normal GCs because of why? again...

Are you seriously claiming that after killing so many GCs in 1974 if the Turkey did not invade the same EOKA would have let TCs go by untouched...

Sorry for not waiting to particiapte in that experiment.

The fact does not change. In the eyes of TCs EOKA or EOKA-B were all terorist organization which have differrent targets with one common target TCs.

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Postby insan » Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:12 pm

In 74 Turkey found an excuse to invade and occupy Cyprus, and it had nothing to do with the protection of TCs.


There was no causes of course. Just the excuses. Cypriots had been living like the angels during 1962-74 period. TCs had no concerns about the barbarian fascists. Even, those barbarian fascist terrorists were protecting TCs against Makarios and TMT. According to those barbarian fascist terrorists; TCs weren't a must destroyed obstacle on the road to Enosis.


Tell us more stories Piratis... Tell..

Reconciliation after the comprehensive solution to Cyprus problem bla blah blah... You rather call it violation storm in Cyprus....
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Postby Piratis » Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:24 pm

So the fact that EOKA killed TCs before 1974 but in 1974 they did not kill any, makes it OK to be a liberator but not a terrorist organization.


Here we go again. I already made the distinction between the original EOKA who had a noble and perfectly justifiable aim, and EOKA B the terrorist organization. It seems to me you read only what you want.

Turkey found an excuse to invade Cyprus. This was not the first time time that such thing happens in history. Most of the powerful ones find an excuse to do something similar. Latest example the invasion of Americans in Iraq. Anyways, talking with you seems useless. I guess we should just wait for our turn.
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Postby insan » Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:30 pm

Turkey found an excuse to invade Cyprus. This was not the first time time that such thing happens in history. Most of the powerful ones find an excuse to do something similar.


So, before Turkey intervened; Greece together with GC administration were trying to do something similar what Turkey did in 1974?

And if all Turkish troops withdrawn, most probably Greece and GC administration would try to do something similar what they did pre-74?
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Postby turkcyp » Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:46 pm

Piratis wrote:Here we go again. I already made the distinction between the original EOKA who had a noble and perfectly justifiable aim, and EOKA B the terrorist organization. It seems to me you read only what you want.


No Piratis I do not read what I want....

Firts of all when did EOKA-B had emerged? Answer this question. It emerged in the late 60s and early 70s (specially between 68-74). Before then there was no distinction between EOKA or EOKA-B.

Every member just belonged to EOKA.

And furtermore. Who do you think that EOKA-B people were. EOKA-B was splinter group that is split from main EOKA. So the same members of a groups that you call terrorist were also the same members of another group you call liberator.

It really does not matter to me if you see EOKA as a libertor, which certainly you do. As I have said I do not want to look at the past. All I care about how things will take place in the future.

But you and people like you, and together with your rightous results does not change the fact that in the minds and hearts of TCs EOKA was a terroist organization that targetted civillian TCs together with Brits. Late ron from the ashes of your sp called liberator organization rise another terrorist group called EOKA-B, which was everything the same with EOKA with only exception of its targets. This time around targets were other GCs and TCs. But always there was one common enemy, TCs. Whether you accept it or not.

And you are claminig here to me that Turkish army one the island was based on no excuses. Yes it was based on excuse Piratis. Turkey should not have intervened so that people like you could have enjoyed being a part of a military junta regime in Greece.
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Postby insan » Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:49 pm

Firts of all when did EOKA-B had emerged? Answer this question. It emerged in the late 60s and early 70s (specially between 68-74). Before then there was no talk of EOKA or EOKA-B.


So, who made and executed the Akritas Plan in 1963? TMT?
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Postby turkcyp » Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:54 pm

insan wrote:So, who made and executed the Akritas Plan in 1963? TMT?


Sorry Insan,

Thanks for catching my mistake. I meant to say before then there was no distinction between EOKA and EOKA-B. I did not mean to say that there was no terrorist organization named EOKA, as it would completely go against my belief as you can understand from my posts.

Take care,

p.s. The mistake have been edited with your warning.
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Postby insan » Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:57 pm

Late ron from the ashes of your sp called liberator organization rise another terrorist group called EOKA-B, which was everything the same with EOKA with only exception of its targets. This time around targets were other GCs and TCs.


Targets were same, priorities of each one were different. Their targets have always been the obstacles in front of Enosis. On the other hand, their priority targets have always been the stronger one first then the weak. Targeting all of their enemies at the same time only would make their task more difficult or cause to end up with failure.
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