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[zan]

I believe that the GCs on this forum and advisers from outside are preventing the GCs from arguing the point on this period because of the exposure it is getting. The war on this period has been won by us and our story is getting out and it is important for it to be told because of the lies that those with political agendas have been telling. Can we have some experiences and truths told of this period by any GCs or will their mother tongue keep still......

[halil]

I believe that the GCs on this forum and advisers from outside are preventing the GCs from arguing the point on this period because of the exposure it is getting. The war on this period has been won by us and our story is getting out and it is important for it to be told because of the lies that those with political agendas have been telling. Can we have some experiences and truths told of this period by any GCs or will their mother tongue keep still......

Zan do u read untold stories by the Sevgül Uludağ ? Many GC's are started to talk about 1963 - 1974 .
Read Yenidüzen news paper.
http://www.dzforum.de/downloads/0301003.pdf
http://www.yeniduzengazetesi.com

[Pyrpolizer]

But Zan also told us his stories about this machine gun with bullets he used to hear at nights while he was 4 somewhere in London.

[zan]

I believe that the GCs on this forum and advisers from outside are preventing the GCs from arguing the point on this period because of the exposure it is getting. The war on this period has been won by us and our story is getting out and it is important for it to be told because of the lies that those with political agendas have been telling. Can we have some experiences and truths told of this period by any GCs or will their mother tongue keep still......

Zan do u read untold stories by the Sevgül Uluda? ? Many GC's are started to talk about 1963 - 1974 .
Read Yenidüzen news paper.
http://www.dzforum.de/downloads/0301003.pdf
http://www.yeniduzengazetesi.com

Sorry Halil but my Turkish is rubbish but I am hoping to improve it. Can you suggest any English versions that I can read the same articles in?

Can you also point me to any changes in the situation, other than people just talking, that shows that the GCs are changing the structure of Cyprus to accomodate the TCs?????

[Viewpoint]

Who agrees with the thought that 1960 was an opportunity missed to create a Cypriot people? A chance to wipe the slate cleanand rule ourselves?

[Peterc]

dont know enough to comment but ill go with the opposite of what VP says as he either exagerates the truth or turns it around to suit.

[Piratis]

Who agrees with the thought that 1960 was an opportunity missed to create a Cypriot people? A chance to wipe the slate cleanand rule ourselves?

Cypriot people existed for 1000s of years. If TCs are part of the Cypriot people or some other "people" thats questionable and mostly up to them.

Here is a 2000 year old coin with the inscription "ΚΟΙΝΟΝ ΚΥΠΡΙΩΝ" ("Common to all Cypriots").



1960 could have been a chance to make a new start if it had created a truly independent, democratic state and the state had the power to fight and destroy those paramilitaries that didn't want the state to succeed because they had other aims which were sponsored by outsiders.

That didn't happen, and it is not a surprise since the 1960 constitution was not a result of a democratic process among Cypriots, but was forced on us by foreigners.

[Kikapu]

I believe that the GCs on this forum and advisers from outside are preventing the GCs from arguing the point on this period because of the exposure it is getting. The war on this period has been won by us and our story is getting out and it is important for it to be told because of the lies that those with political agendas have been telling. Can we have some experiences and truths told of this period by any GCs or will their mother tongue keep still......

Hello Zan,

Why don't you and VP both write down your experiences during this time period, just like I have, so that the whole world can read it, and perhaps they will be more understanding as to what really happened between 1963-1974. However, it has to be a personal experiences, and not as a second, third, forth or fifth hand stories. The world is interested in reading true events, so why don't you both give the world the real thing.

I did and I'm happy to have written about it. I even visited my "prison" that we were kept in, when I was in Cyprus recently, otherwise you two are really boring the world with your ONE LINERS and no personal experiences..

[Viewpoint]

Piratis

Viewpoint wrote:
Who agrees with the thought that 1960 was an opportunity missed to create a Cypriot people? A chance to wipe the slate cleanand rule ourselves?


Cypriot people existed for 1000s of years. If TCs are part of the Cypriot people or some other "people" thats questionable and mostly up to them.

Here is a 2000 year old coin with the inscription "ΚΟΙΝΟΝ ΚΥΠΡΙΩΝ" ("Common to all Cypriots").



1960 could have been a chance to make a new start if it had created a truly independent, democratic state and the state had the power to fight and destroy those paramilitaries that didn't want the state to succeed because they had other aims which were sponsored by outsiders.

That didn't happen, and it is not a surprise since the 1960 constitution was not a result of a democratic process among Cypriots, but was forced on us by foreigners.

Are you referring to the constitiution you cling onto today? appears to be invaluable in 2007 is that because it has the TC element removed? wasnt it you that said its the only agreement we have and that TCs should return to it? how long will it take you to regurgitate Akritas 2 and run to the EU begging for changes to water down TCs rights.

[halil]

I believe that the GCs on this forum and advisers from outside are preventing the GCs from arguing the point on this period because of the exposure it is getting. The war on this period has been won by us and our story is getting out and it is important for it to be told because of the lies that those with political agendas have been telling. Can we have some experiences and truths told of this period by any GCs or will their mother tongue keep still......

Zan do u read untold stories by the Sevgül Uluda? ? Many GC's are started to talk about 1963 - 1974 .
Read Yenidüzen news paper.
http://www.dzforum.de/downloads/0301003.pdf
http://www.yeniduzengazetesi.com

Sorry Halil but my Turkish is rubbish but I am hoping to improve it. Can you suggest any English versions that I can read the same articles in?

Can you also point me to any changes in the situation, other than people just talking, that shows that the GCs are changing the structure of Cyprus to accomodate the TCs?????

to read Turkish it would not difficult for u .pls try to read the news paper yenidüzen specially this column's can learn a lot. i wish it could be translated in greek because they don't get most of the events either.wait u can hear many shock news about missing persons than world will think twice that incidences did not started during 1974. the cyprus problem is not the invasion of the island by the Turkish troops.