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[boulio]

how would a 82-18% cyprus look on a map.

[zan]

I think you got it right Kikapu.

The most fair and best solution for everybody in the long run would be one united, democratic Cyprus, with equal Cypriot citizens and no kinds of racist discrimination.

If however TCs insist that they want to be separate on their own, then they should at least stop being greedy and propose to us a kind of partition that will be acceptable by us. They should realize that the north part of Cyprus is the homeland of 5 times more GCs than TCs and that northern Cyprus is part of Republic of Cyprus, and therefore they have absolutely no right for partition, and they can achieve it only if we agree to it.

An 82%-18%, given the insistence of the majority of TCs on partition, would be acceptable by the majority of GCs.

Then TCs would have to work by themselves and show what they can achieve, instead of the easy money of selling GC properties, the benefits of EU membership (that we, and not them, had to make sacrifices for), and the taxes that GCs pay.

It is time that TCs should realize that a "solution" where they get all the benefits of partition and all the benefits of unification at the same time is simply not possible. It will either be a true unification that will create in Cyprus a normal country like all the other in EU , or it will be partition, and for that to happen they will have to convince us by proposing something that we can accept (= 18%-82%)

If we ever agree on an 18%-82% partition then without threats, blackmails and illegalities, we can discuss if we want to have federation, or if TCs can enter EU etc.

And what has the 18% that you are crying for got to say about you selling off their land to get your political point over???


We are apart and parcel of Cyprus and you have no authority to offer us a peace meal option to to show , in your reckless way, that we are the minority that has no say in Cyprus. We decide our own fate and not wait for handouts from you. You should have thought about your position before you tried to exterminate us from our homeland.

[Piratis]

You have killed 10s of thousands of GCs, with 6000 of them as recently as 1974. So don't pretend to be the victim because you had some 100s of casualties at some point.

What you decide is always crimes and illegalities. If you are comfortable with continuing with crimes and illegalities then rot in your pseudo state until we will liberate our country.

Here, a few verses from your own BelloTurko to remind you who you are and how you came here

İ am Bello Turco and İ am proud.
İ come from the steps of Outer Mongolia with
slanted eye and curved sword.

İ fight for thousands of years and slaughter and butcher.
...

[zan]

You have killed 10s of thousands of GCs, with 6000 of them as recently as 1974. So don't pretend to be the victim because you had some 100s of casualties at some point.

What you decide is always crimes and illegalities. If you are comfortable with continuing with crimes and illegalities then rot in your pseudo state until we will liberate our country.

Here, a few verses from your own BelloTurko to remind you who you are and how you came here

? am Bello Turco and ? am proud.
? come from the steps of Outer Mongolia with
slanted eye and curved sword.

? fight for thousands of years and slaughter and butcher.
...

If you think that you are going to make me feel shame for who I am and the proud and wonderful people I originate from then you are even more stupid than I already think you are and that is one hell of a lot of stupid. As for Bello Turco....Don't have too many nightmares...

You show no shame or regret for what your leader Makarios has done to my people and what your present leader is doing by holding us under siege and then ask me to feel shame for Bello Turcos poem Hahahahahaha! You are one mad son of a bitch

[Murataga]

You have killed 10s of thousands of GCs, with 6000 of them as recently as 1974.

Proove it.

[Get Real!]

You have killed 10s of thousands of GCs, with 6000 of them as recently as 1974.

Proove it.

Who swore?

[Piratis]

You have killed 10s of thousands of GCs, with 6000 of them as recently as 1974.

Proove it.

Throughout the period of Venetian rule, Ottoman Turks raided and attacked at will. In 1489, the first year of Venetian control, Turks attacked the Karpas Peninsula, pillaging and taking captives to be sold into slavery. In 1539 the Turkish fleet attacked and destroyed Limassol. Fearing the ever-expanding Ottoman Empire, the Venetians had fortified Famagusta, Nicosia, and Kyrenia, but most other cities were easy prey.

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted.

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.

From the USA Library of Congress (your friends)
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/cytoc.html

Cyprus was facing a crisis on all fronts; for the first time the conservative pastoral society with its mostly rural population was forced to legalise abortion to cope with the sheer numbers of cases of rape against Cypriot women by the invading army. Amid the debris caused by extensive bombing, the human cost was phenomenally high;6,000 were killed, one third of all Cypriots lived dependent as refugees ...

From a recent article by your own Alkan Chaglar.
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=33767

So stop trying to exaggerate your own suffering and diminish ours in order to excuse yet more crimes and illegalities against us, just like you have done since the time you set your foot on this island.

[zan]

You have killed 10s of thousands of GCs, with 6000 of them as recently as 1974.

Proove it.

Throughout the period of Venetian rule, Ottoman Turks raided and attacked at will. In 1489, the first year of Venetian control, Turks attacked the Karpas Peninsula, pillaging and taking captives to be sold into slavery. In 1539 the Turkish fleet attacked and destroyed Limassol. Fearing the ever-expanding Ottoman Empire, the Venetians had fortified Famagusta, Nicosia, and Kyrenia, but most other cities were easy prey.

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted.

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.

From the USA Library of Congress (your friends)
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/cytoc.html

Cyprus was facing a crisis on all fronts; for the first time the conservative pastoral society with its mostly rural population was forced to legalise abortion to cope with the sheer numbers of cases of rape against Cypriot women by the invading army. Amid the debris caused by extensive bombing, the human cost was phenomenally high;6,000 were killed, one third of all Cypriots lived dependent as refugees ...

From a recent article by your own Alkan Chaglar.
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=33767

So stop trying to exaggerate your own suffering and diminish ours in order to excuse yet more crimes and illegalities against us, just like you have done since the time you set your foot on this island.

Once you have got all that other shit off your chest and payed your respects to your ancestors how about proving that all the 6000 were killed by Turks....PROVE IT!!!

[rawk]

Who agrees with the thought that 1960 was an opportunity missed to create a Cypriot people? A chance to wipe the slate cleanand rule ourselves?

Cypriot people existed for 1000s of years. If TCs are part of the Cypriot people or some other "people" thats questionable and mostly up to them.

Here is a 2000 year old coin with the inscription "ΚΟΙΝΟΝ ΚΥΠΡΙΩΝ" ("Common to all Cypriots").



Yeah so, well here's a 1000 year old coin from my country. Anglo-Saxon, which predates the Norman invasion of 1066.



A 1000 years later, we are still all British though, nothing questionable about that.

We've even got a few Turkish Cypriots in the bloodline now, still all British.

Even a few Greek Cypriots here as well. Welcome to our country, Britain.

It doesn't matter where you come from, if you're a big country, no matter how large your land mass is,
if you want to be part of it you're welcome.

Old coins, old attitudes, old bollocks!

Rawk

[Viewpoint]

What we have now are the results of invasion, illegal occupation and ethnic cleansing, this can not be right in any way.

What should be done is return to legality, and then via legal and democratic means to see if we can make the 1960 constitution better and bring it to the 21st century.

Where Gcs rule supree due to their numerical advantage and TCs are reduced to jusy minority status like the Pakistanis in the UK. Well forget it aint gonna happen we will stay as we until you get the swing in power you long for or we get recognition which ever one comes first.