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Postby zan » Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:02 pm

Birkibrisli wrote:
Chimera wrote:
Neo_Cypriot wrote:Can I point out that the first Cypriot were not of Greek originand the first Turkish Cypriots weren't of Turkish origin and that a lot of Greek Cypriot have latin sounding surnames because of the latin period in Cyprus when a lot of Venetion merchants married the local women in places like Larnaca.
Cyprus is mainly Greek in the reaspect by curlture, but not blood as many different peoples have come to the island over the years. Not just Greeks!


....Except for those of us who have been stigmatised for being, by blood and semantics, TRUE Greek Cypriot.
By virtue of one parent being ethnically Greek and the other a true Cypriot, only then can the description "Greek Cypriot" be used accurately.

This is particluarly frustrating since I abhor the use of the opposite label "Turkish Cypriot" (unless by blood), and support the notion that the true Cypriots nead to be recognised as such, without ties to other countries' names.

Such polarisation due to semantics/politics is a pain when fellow Cypriots make assumptions as to ones loyalties because of the accepted usage of GC or TC. The usual assumption being favouring ENOSIS (which I don't).

I am an ardent supporter of a truly independent RoC for the TRUE Cypriots even if I am a TRUE Greek Cypriot.


We have a True Cypriot's Club in this forum,Chimera...It is for those who feel they are Cypriots above all else...And who believe,like you do,that Cypriots are one people one nation,divided by one or more artificial factors...If and when you are ready to drop the "Greek" part,Our president (miltiades) will be to happy to admit you,i am sure... :wink: :lol:



Make sure you have a copy of the Akritas plan and a gun. :roll: They take in anyone these days, it does not matter if you hate Turks and Turkish Cypriots:roll: :roll: .....No I'm Spartikas :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Chimera » Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:25 pm

Birkibrisli wrote:
Chimera wrote:
Neo_Cypriot wrote:Can I point out that the first Cypriot were not of Greek originand the first Turkish Cypriots weren't of Turkish origin and that a lot of Greek Cypriot have latin sounding surnames because of the latin period in Cyprus when a lot of Venetion merchants married the local women in places like Larnaca.
Cyprus is mainly Greek in the reaspect by curlture, but not blood as many different peoples have come to the island over the years. Not just Greeks!


....Except for those of us who have been stigmatised for being, by blood and semantics, TRUE Greek Cypriot.
By virtue of one parent being ethnically Greek and the other a true Cypriot, only then can the description "Greek Cypriot" be used accurately.

This is particluarly frustrating since I abhor the use of the opposite label "Turkish Cypriot" (unless by blood), and support the notion that the true Cypriots nead to be recognised as such, without ties to other countries' names.

Such polarisation due to semantics/politics is a pain when fellow Cypriots make assumptions as to ones loyalties because of the accepted usage of GC or TC. The usual assumption being favouring ENOSIS (which I don't).

I am an ardent supporter of a truly independent RoC for the TRUE Cypriots even if I am a TRUE Greek Cypriot.


We have a True Cypriot's Club in this forum,Chimera...It is for those who feel they are Cypriots above all else...And who believe,like you do,that Cypriots are one people one nation,divided by one or more artificial factors...If and when you are ready to drop the "Greek" part,Our president (miltiades) will be to happy to admit you,i am sure... :wink: :lol:


Don't bother to read what's written! :roll:
Charge on with the usual Turkish force. :evil:
!
The label Greek Cypriot stays because that is what I am, by birth, both Cypriot and Greek.
You are clearly neither!
Your sabotage of "TRUE" is again another example of the subterfuge and parasitic qualities displayed by Turks.
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Postby miltiades » Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:05 pm

Chimera wrote:
Birkibrisli wrote:
Chimera wrote:
Neo_Cypriot wrote:Can I point out that the first Cypriot were not of Greek originand the first Turkish Cypriots weren't of Turkish origin and that a lot of Greek Cypriot have latin sounding surnames because of the latin period in Cyprus when a lot of Venetion merchants married the local women in places like Larnaca.
Cyprus is mainly Greek in the reaspect by curlture, but not blood as many different peoples have come to the island over the years. Not just Greeks!


....Except for those of us who have been stigmatised for being, by blood and semantics, TRUE Greek Cypriot.
By virtue of one parent being ethnically Greek and the other a true Cypriot, only then can the description "Greek Cypriot" be used accurately.

This is particluarly frustrating since I abhor the use of the opposite label "Turkish Cypriot" (unless by blood), and support the notion that the true Cypriots nead to be recognised as such, without ties to other countries' names.

Such polarisation due to semantics/politics is a pain when fellow Cypriots make assumptions as to ones loyalties because of the accepted usage of GC or TC. The usual assumption being favouring ENOSIS (which I don't).

I am an ardent supporter of a truly independent RoC for the TRUE Cypriots even if I am a TRUE Greek Cypriot.


We have a True Cypriot's Club in this forum,Chimera...It is for those who feel they are Cypriots above all else...And who believe,like you do,that Cypriots are one people one nation,divided by one or more artificial factors...If and when you are ready to drop the "Greek" part,Our president (miltiades) will be to happy to admit you,i am sure... :wink: :lol:


Don't bother to read what's written! :roll:
Charge on with the usual Turkish force. :evil:
You blithering, barbarian, how dare you instruct me in what I can drop!
The label Greek Cypriot stays because that is what I am, by birth, both Cypriot and Greek.
You are clearly neither!
Your sabotage of "TRUE" is again another example of the subterfuge and parasitic qualities displayed by Turks.


The blithering barbarian here is in my opinion very much YOU. How dare you insult a Cypriot man who has advocated all along a peaceful coexistence of our communities based on mutual respect and understanding of each others concerns. Take note that I'm a Greek Cypriot but primarily a Cypriot who proudly proclaims that Bir and my Turkish Cypriot compatriots are far closer to me than those from the foreign lands of Greece , Turkey , Crete Rhodes or from any other part of the Universe. Bir IS my brother my compatriot , a man born a stones throw from where I was born.
Sincerity and truthfulness is his mark , subterfuge belongs to those whose pea brain doesn't allow them to digest the meaning of a true Cypriot.
Only an arrogant individual would describe Bir as parasitic , and you do not appear , on surface , to be such. An apology would be in order .
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:13 pm

I second the above miltiades!
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Postby ge0rg10 » Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:24 pm

i personally as a gc believe that i do have some connection with greece (as we share language and religion) but the island has not been a part of greece for ages, since the byzantine empire. since then many others have ruled and lived on our island. greek runs through our veins, as well as italian, turkish and maybe english!!?? we are not greeks but a mixture, this mixture is cypriot. WE ARE CYPRIOTS FIRST THEN GREEK.
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Postby Kristianikos » Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:35 pm

I think Chimera should shut up and stop insulting every turkish cypriot person on this forum.

It gets annoying reading your crap over and over.

If someone wants to be called a Cypriot, let them do so, it is not your decision to call them different.
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Postby Chimera » Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:43 pm

miltiades wrote:
Chimera wrote:
Birkibrisli wrote:
Chimera wrote:
Neo_Cypriot wrote:Can I point out that the first Cypriot were not of Greek originand the first Turkish Cypriots weren't of Turkish origin and that a lot of Greek Cypriot have latin sounding surnames because of the latin period in Cyprus when a lot of Venetion merchants married the local women in places like Larnaca.
Cyprus is mainly Greek in the reaspect by curlture, but not blood as many different peoples have come to the island over the years. Not just Greeks!


....Except for those of us who have been stigmatised for being, by blood and semantics, TRUE Greek Cypriot.
By virtue of one parent being ethnically Greek and the other a true Cypriot, only then can the description "Greek Cypriot" be used accurately.

This is particluarly frustrating since I abhor the use of the opposite label "Turkish Cypriot" (unless by blood), and support the notion that the true Cypriots nead to be recognised as such, without ties to other countries' names.

Such polarisation due to semantics/politics is a pain when fellow Cypriots make assumptions as to ones loyalties because of the accepted usage of GC or TC. The usual assumption being favouring ENOSIS (which I don't).

I am an ardent supporter of a truly independent RoC for the TRUE Cypriots even if I am a TRUE Greek Cypriot.


We have a True Cypriot's Club in this forum,Chimera...It is for those who feel they are Cypriots above all else...And who believe,like you do,that Cypriots are one people one nation,divided by one or more artificial factors...If and when you are ready to drop the "Greek" part,Our president (miltiades) will be to happy to admit you,i am sure... :wink: :lol:


Don't bother to read what's written! :roll:
Charge on with the usual Turkish force. :evil:
You blithering, barbarian, how dare you instruct me in what I can drop!
The label Greek Cypriot stays because that is what I am, by birth, both Cypriot and Greek.
You are clearly neither!
Your sabotage of "TRUE" is again another example of the subterfuge and parasitic qualities displayed by Turks.


The blithering barbarian here is in my opinion very much YOU. How dare you insult a Cypriot man who has advocated all along a peaceful coexistence of our communities based on mutual respect and understanding of each others concerns. Take note that I'm a Greek Cypriot but primarily a Cypriot who proudly proclaims that Bir and my Turkish Cypriot compatriots are far closer to me than those from the foreign lands of Greece , Turkey , Crete Rhodes or from any other part of the Universe. Bir IS my brother my compatriot , a man born a stones throw from where I was born.
Sincerity and truthfulness is his mark , subterfuge belongs to those whose pea brain doesn't allow them to digest the meaning of a true Cypriot.
Only an arrogant individual would describe Bir as parasitic , and you do not appear , on surface , to be such. An apology would be in order .


Miltiades, may I just add that you too have not read /understood my post.
Are you Greek Cypriot because one parent is Cypriot and the other Greek?
If not then you do not have any right to dictate to me how I view the brands of GC and TC. To me they are meaningless diatribe and clearly unworkable. Merely a smokescreen, perpetuated by the British and Turks, and maybe by the likes of you.
Unless you have parents from Greece and Cyprus, kindly refrain from calling yourself a Greek Cypriot and further clouding the waters.
You may find that I too was born a stones throw away from you!

You are clearly demented enough to allow the Turks to erase their past misdemeanours by hiding under the umbrella of True Cypriots.

I applaude Birkibrisli's stance for peaceful co-existance. I too want nothing more.

What I do not understand is this SHAME that Turks seem to have that makes them want to re-brand themselves.
Maybe I prefer to call a spade a spade.
Respect comes from standing up for your heritage not calling it by a new name.
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Postby T_C » Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:55 pm

Chimera enough of your fantasies...stop polluting the forum....
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Postby webbo » Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:05 pm

Kristianikos wrote:I believe that those from cyprus are Cypriots. I do have connections with Greece, but this is only because i was born there. I believe that G/C's and T/C's should be together as 1, as Cypriots.

I myself (now living in the UK) don't use the term Greek Cypriot, just Cypriot..

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bravo, well said

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Postby miltiades » Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:09 pm

Chimera wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Chimera wrote:
Birkibrisli wrote:
Chimera wrote:
Neo_Cypriot wrote:Can I point out that the first Cypriot were not of Greek originand the first Turkish Cypriots weren't of Turkish origin and that a lot of Greek Cypriot have latin sounding surnames because of the latin period in Cyprus when a lot of Venetion merchants married the local women in places like Larnaca.
Cyprus is mainly Greek in the reaspect by curlture, but not blood as many different peoples have come to the island over the years. Not just Greeks!


....Except for those of us who have been stigmatised for being, by blood and semantics, TRUE Greek Cypriot.
By virtue of one parent being ethnically Greek and the other a true Cypriot, only then can the description "Greek Cypriot" be used accurately.

This is particluarly frustrating since I abhor the use of the opposite label "Turkish Cypriot" (unless by blood), and support the notion that the true Cypriots nead to be recognised as such, without ties to other countries' names.

Such polarisation due to semantics/politics is a pain when fellow Cypriots make assumptions as to ones loyalties because of the accepted usage of GC or TC. The usual assumption being favouring ENOSIS (which I don't).

I am an ardent supporter of a truly independent RoC for the TRUE Cypriots even if I am a TRUE Greek Cypriot.


We have a True Cypriot's Club in this forum,Chimera...It is for those who feel they are Cypriots above all else...And who believe,like you do,that Cypriots are one people one nation,divided by one or more artificial factors...If and when you are ready to drop the "Greek" part,Our president (miltiades) will be to happy to admit you,i am sure... :wink: :lol:


Don't bother to read what's written! :roll:
Charge on with the usual Turkish force. :evil:
You blithering, barbarian, how dare you instruct me in what I can drop!
The label Greek Cypriot stays because that is what I am, by birth, both Cypriot and Greek.
You are clearly neither!
Your sabotage of "TRUE" is again another example of the subterfuge and parasitic qualities displayed by Turks.


The blithering barbarian here is in my opinion very much YOU. How dare you insult a Cypriot man who has advocated all along a peaceful coexistence of our communities based on mutual respect and understanding of each others concerns. Take note that I'm a Greek Cypriot but primarily a Cypriot who proudly proclaims that Bir and my Turkish Cypriot compatriots are far closer to me than those from the foreign lands of Greece , Turkey , Crete Rhodes or from any other part of the Universe. Bir IS my brother my compatriot , a man born a stones throw from where I was born.
Sincerity and truthfulness is his mark , subterfuge belongs to those whose pea brain doesn't allow them to digest the meaning of a true Cypriot.
Only an arrogant individual would describe Bir as parasitic , and you do not appear , on surface , to be such. An apology would be in order .


Miltiades, may I just add that you too have not read /understood my post.
Are you Greek Cypriot because one parent is Cypriot and the other Greek?
If not then you do not have any right to dictate to me how I view the brands of GC and TC. To me they are meaningless diatribe and clearly unworkable. Merely a smokescreen, perpetuated by the British and Turks, and maybe by the likes of you.
Unless you have parents from Greece and Cyprus, kindly refrain from calling yourself a Greek Cypriot and further clouding the waters.
You may find that I too was born a stones throw away from you!

You are clearly demented enough to allow the Turks to erase their past misdemeanours by hiding under the umbrella of True Cypriots.

I applaude Birkibrisli's stance for peaceful co-existance. I too want nothing more.

What I do not understand is this SHAME that Turks seem to have that makes them want to re-brand themselves.
Maybe I prefer to call a spade a spade.
Respect comes from standing up for your heritage not calling it by a new name.

Maybe your right , perhaps I did not understand your last post the way that you elucidated the meaning of phraseology clearly intended to derogate the portrayal of the identity of the inhabitants of Cyprus as primarily Cypriots. Both of my parents Were G/Cs , not Greeks , but Cypriot Paphians who called themselves KIPREI just as I call my self KIPREOS and proud. Bir is also a KIPREOS and a proud one too .
He has my utmost respect as a result of his commitment to one unified island the home of both the G/Cs and the T/Cs.
The T/Cs have suffered just as much, if not a great deal more than we have. Would you like me to post some of the most commonly derogatory terms that we shamelessly used in describing our compatriots ?
Cyprus is my birth country , Greece is not. Im a G/C , Not a Greek. Huge difference , and Bir is , just as I'm a Cypriot , a Kipreos a Birkibrisly.
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