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ARE GREEK CYPRIOTS GREEKS?

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Postby free_cyprus » Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:36 pm

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you suggest cypriots are from greece and turkey and you ask us to examine our names ect...

you mean to tell me that nearly a billion people in south america originated from portugal and spain, they all have spanish names they are all catholics and they all speak either spanish or portogues. ...................the polupation of portugal is ten million...............population of spain is about 44 million thats under 60 million combined. how do you account for nearly a billion people speaking their language and practicing their riligions, did they all emigrate to south americ and fecked like rabbits in order to reach this number
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Postby oranos64 » Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:55 pm

err yeah ,,,the southern states of south america etc ,,,,like chile speak spainish ..but are indio people from the incas ..brazillians speak portugese ....the population of mexico is largely of spainish decent ....can i also point out ...the populations of those countries are 575 million .... the argentians for example have spainish and german blood ...they are catholics ..the average brazillian family in 1870s were 7 kids ...today they are 4 ...

seriously mate ...to be honest i think i will buy you the britanica encloypedia so you can learn shite and impress those beaming ladies you said you meet and quote me some more interesting stafff.
i was out there in 96 ...Argentinian women are gorgeous better than Brazillian ... most of people are indio ,spainish and european decendents (12%)

are you now telling me that cyprus is not made up of Greek decendents and of some turkish ,decendents ..are you saying the census that cyprus has every 10 years like all european countries is producing in accurate info

are you denying that the original occupants for some 2500 on this island did not speak Greek /dorian greek

that the inscriptions at salamis are not Greek ...that kition was not greek ...that king evagoros was not greek ...that king xeres our arab ruler for some 35 years did not proclaim our language as Greek and help Greeks build a massive fleet based in Paphos ..to help him defend the Greek Arab island ...

yes arabic ,africans and all the invaders who grace the shores influenced our culture ... yes Turks camed and settled and conquered to create a new major minority ...but the dominate race here was always and always will be ..Greek

See i reckon ...you Cypriots ...are not Taught European History like we are in the UK... i know my staff ...at the moment i am studying Genelogy and DNA migration ... when i knock you out ..ill take a blood sample off you and tell you what gene pool ..migration line you are ...most definately think you are a mongol of sorts

off to bed ...have a nice night surfing and writing gibberish ... ...by the way 1244 posts ...wow ... you genius you...wish i had such time to waste ...
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Postby oranos64 » Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:19 am

I am really stunned at how little history and understanding some of the Greek Cypriots on this forum have of their own roots ...
The GREEK CYPRIOT Dialect is similar to that found in Crete ,Rhodes and KOS ...this is because it comes from the ORIGINAL Greek SPOKEN IN AYIA SOPHIA .,constantinople .by INTELECTUALS ... before the TURKS invaded and rape,pillaged and enslaved the people ...
Miltiades Grow ,,,up ....stop acting like a child ..acept freedom of speech and views ...You are Greek ,..your name is helenic Greek ...should you make any attemept to censor my or any other viewers right to label themselves ..i will be forced to contact internet /politicial bodies ..

as for your question ...my desendents are from famagusta ... Greeks ... my great x5 is from mainland Greece ..I AM SURE ..THAT WITH YOUR NAME ...WE COULD SAY THE SAME ..

I am neither a facist nor a commie ,,i have no hate ...i respect and enjoy and love cyprus and its past is something i accept ..i have both politcal wings in my family ...if i take sides then i would be intolerate of the other

therefore i fly the flag of both cyprus and Greece ..and recognise the good qualities of our culture rather than dwell on a sad period in the 60s like most of you ... i love what Greece is trying to achieve and as a frequent traveller i have travelled Greece and the islands.. i love the people and i have always been welcomed by the peoples of Greece as our brothers under durest ... so please wake up ...stop being silly ..accept that i have a right to call my self a Greek Cypriot ...if you dont like it ...tough ...me lad ... thats life

you seem sensible at times but to me you and most of your net nerd friends here are running away with this agenda ...accept you are ,what you are ... if not you can always swap sides .....
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Postby free_cyprus » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:22 am

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we will all except what we are cos mr oranos64 says what we are you have made us into greeks and turks and thats what we shall be bravooooooooooooooooooooooooo the only thing i can say to you oranos64 your not consistant in what the hell your talking a bout and if you call yourself educated i for one would tell you to ask for your money back. you have been done lol i have heard something in this forum but you really take the crown mate.
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Postby humanist » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:29 am

Are Greek Speaking Cypriots Greek? NO I AM NOT AND I HATE PEOPLE WHO WIH TO MAKE ME ONE> GO the Cypriots.
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Postby free_cyprus » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:55 am

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only an idiot would say becouse they speak greek and they are greek especialy one from cyprus just like turkish speakign to say they are turks becouse they speak the language and thye are from cyprus .................................................. i do not recognise greece or turkey as what many in here call motherlands theres only one motherland and thats cyprus for me. of course we could always ask mr oranos64 the history expert with all that education to educate us im sure he will not have aproblem convincing some people we are greeks after all his name signiture is the greek flag
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Postby Kristianikos » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:58 am

I do not hate being Labeled Greek, But i do correct people when they do so..
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Postby Kristianikos » Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:00 am

free_cyprus wrote:humanist
only an idiot would say becouse they speak greek and they are greek especialy one from cyprus just like turkish speakign to say they are turks becouse they speak the language and thye are from cyprus .................................................. i do not recognise greece or turkey as what many in here call motherlands theres only one motherland and thats cyprus for me. of course we could always ask mr oranos64 the history expert with all that education to educate us im sure he will not have aproblem convincing some people we are greeks after all his name signiture is the greek flag


Hmmm... it is not only me who he has been anoying i guess ?

I don't know why Oranos is so fixated on the idea that Cypriots are Greeks ?

Ahh.. anyways..

CYPRIOTS TO THE END !!! :D
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Postby free_cyprus » Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:25 am

im from cyprus and im a cypriot and when you ask me if im trukish or greek i simply say to people im neither but i do speak one of the languages and i have nothing to do with .turkey or greece we as an island have been ruled from persia to friging britain for over 3000 years and your going to tell me im greek or turk ..................if anyone is soo sure then let them go and have a dna test and lest see what comes up. as the saying goes ...............a men is generaly what he feels himself to, and im a cypriot...........................our own people the cypriots are our own worse enemy and they dont even know it they are soo frigging brained washed that some of them well most fo them actualy believe they are greeks and turks and yet they deprive us from our own identity. why do we have such a thing called independence if we are greeks and turks. the mainland turkey and greece have shuved so much propaganda down our throats that most people believe thats what they are. we are supposed to be an independent state and we have turkish and greek flags flying all over the place, where the feck is national pride who speaks for us athens and ankara, who runs the secret service in cyprus athens and ankara, whos history books do we read, athens and ankara, who dictates negotiations regarding cyprus athens and ankara,cyprus has no voice what we do have is some arseholes waving greek and turkish flags and say im a greek and im a turk they fecking cypriots the fecking idiots. nobody questions anything whatever they hear they say yes........................look at great britain you have three countries joined togtehr by land england wales scotland would a scotsman ever say he is english your joking would a welshman say he is english no. ......................why ?????............they all speak english and yet they still say they are scotish welsh and english they have pride ...................us lot in cyprus we are greeks and turks becouse we speak the language and we share the same riligion ..........what a joke cyprus sitiuation is the laughing stock of the international community nowhere in the world is like cyprus a small island devided into four. .....................small island that has been tortured through out history and still today our people are slaves to turkey and greece and nobody speaks for us.
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Postby miltiades » Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:04 am

Unlike some of the Cypriots on this forum , I have been consistent in referring to my self as a Greek Cypriot , and have always referred to the Turkish Cypriots as such . Nevertheless a Greek Cypriot IS NOT A Greek any more than a Turkish Cypriot is a Turk. There must be a distinction between the Greeks of Greece and the Greeks of Cyprus just as there is a distinction between the Turkish Cypriots and the Turks. A Greek from Greece can not be called a Cypriot and neither can a Turk from Turkey be called a Cypriot , however Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots are both called Cypriots and this definitive identity is what sets us apart from either the Greeks from Greece or the Turks of Turkey.
Let me state quite clearly that a Cyprus ruled by Greece administered as an extension of Greece would for me be a Cyprus under Greek occupation. We are predominantly Cypriots and our government's position is that there is only one Cyprus and is neither Greek nor Turkish , albeit some government actions go contrary to the principles of one Cyprus. None of our official documents describe as our national identity as Greek , or our flag as that of Greece , as for the national anthem this is a thorn on the side of all who want to see an independent and united Cyprus.
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