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[Murataga]

TCs and GCs are evry much the same I thought in DNA structure. We look similar (excluding mongolian looking turkish settlers) and there's one piece of irrefutable eveidence that points to our shared ancestry...our beta thallasaemia trait.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... t=Abstract

"Nearly identical percentages were observed for the two Cypriot groups, quite different from those for beta-thalassaemia patients from Greece and Turkey. This suggests close contacts between the two Cypriot communities during many centuries without a major recent influence from Greek or Turkish beta-thalassaemia carriers."

How do you explain that one then mr "there are two different peoples in cyprius" murataga.
No, there are 4 meddling, peddling nations who can't stop poking their sweaty fingers into Cyprus pie, look at us in the early 1940s, 50s, 60s - we could have been from medieval times for gods sake - ripe for manipulation by greedy and corrupt nations and religions...

I always wondered if the TCs were just GCs that sold out to the Ottoman empire for tax reasons TBH but I know I'm probably way off the mark

How many intermarriages are there between GCs and TCs (1571 to 1963) ? But again according to you the whole world might be greek right?

There are two peoples in Cyprus- TCs and GCs. The solution to our problems is not denying this but embracing it. Allowing each people to rule their people, by the people, for the people is the most fundamental human right.

Murataga, thanks for admitting that TCs are nothing more than the same Turkish invadors, and not the indegenous people of Cyprus.

Beyond that all your claims on Cyprus are simply the same claims that the barbarian Turks always had against the people the invaded. Nothing new here.

TCs are indigenous as GCs are. They, like the GCs, have arrived after other people were already living in Cyprus. Beyond that is the repeptition of your racist ideology and barfing up of hate against the Turks. Thanks for once again exposing the true racist that you are.

[Murataga]

TCs and GCs are evry much the same I thought in DNA structure. We look similar (excluding mongolian looking turkish settlers) and there's one piece of irrefutable eveidence that points to our shared ancestry...our beta thallasaemia trait.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... t=Abstract

"Nearly identical percentages were observed for the two Cypriot groups, quite different from those for beta-thalassaemia patients from Greece and Turkey. This suggests close contacts between the two Cypriot communities during many centuries without a major recent influence from Greek or Turkish beta-thalassaemia carriers."

How do you explain that one then mr "there are two different peoples in cyprius" murataga.
No, there are 4 meddling, peddling nations who can't stop poking their sweaty fingers into Cyprus pie, look at us in the early 1940s, 50s, 60s - we could have been from medieval times for gods sake - ripe for manipulation by greedy and corrupt nations and religions...

I always wondered if the TCs were just GCs that sold out to the Ottoman empire for tax reasons TBH but I know I'm probably way off the mark

How many intermarriages are there between GCs and TCs (1571 to 1963) ? But again according to you the whole world might be greek right?

There are two peoples in Cyprus- TCs and GCs. The solution to our problems is not denying this but embracing it. Allowing each people to rule their people, by the people, for the people is the most fundamental human right.

Therefore in Turkey where there are 20 million Kurds and Turkey is denying the people to rule the people , Turkey is obviously denying these people "" the most fundamental human right." Likewise in the UK where there are people from the four corners of the world , including a few million Muslims who DO want to rule themselves , the UK should stop denying them their "fundamental rights " and allow them to rule their people. NO MATE.
Cyprus ain't Turkey , it ain't Greece either , it is Cyprus and its people will reject the partitionist efforts . I consider my self a true Cypriot , and wish to see the back of Turkey followed by all Greek troops carrying back to Greece their flags , and I want to see that monstrosity on a Cypriot mountain removed and replaced by the Cypriot flag.

The conditions, history and the political facts of what you mention has nothing to do with Cyprus, nothing. So stop your perversions . Cyprus isn`t Turkey and Cyprus isn`t Greece; but it is Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot. It is the right of the the people to exist on this island as political equals with the right to govern themselves in seperate zones (as fully described by the U.N. as a solution to the Cyprus Problem).

You look at those mountains and you look at them carefully; because there are the symbols of our existance which the likes of you have and are trying to wipe out. We will be in Cyprus forever. Get used to it.

Miltiades is perverted ?? The likes of whom have tried to wipe you out ???
I rest my case .

You never had one.

[humanist]

Don't you love it when Turkish Cypriots acuse Greek speaking Cypriots for being racists, they who exclude us from our homeland, those who violate our human rights on daily basis and those proclaiming they are are separate and want their separate state. Those very same people who take our property and not only use it for themselves but also sell it and then they come to claim Greek speaking Cypriots are racist. The very same people who state on this forum they want nothing to do with Greek speaking Cypriots and the very same people who hold allegiance to Turkey and allow her to exploit the human right of 800,000 of their compatriots.

[Get Real!]

There is a theory of evolution that states all people orignate from Africa.

Without intending to derail this thread...

When Turkey is ready to abandon her Turkic history, inheritance, and indigenousness and opt for an Ethiopian/Eritrean ethnic background; the oldest civilization found in the world, you may come and ask me to do that also.

In the meantime, I would ask that you and every other TC respect my Cypriot history, inheritance, and indigenousness. Thank you.

It has been prooven that you are not and exposed that you are lying about Greek Cypriots being indegenous and being in Cyprus for 10000 years. You are settlers that have come here much less than 10k years. Stop lying.

So what happened to the indigenous people of Cyprus Murataga if the GC’s are not their descendants? Did they get eaten up by the dinosaurs?

Where is the evidence of your invented theories? Did you read that in a children’s “TRNC” story book?

[Piratis]

They performed ethnic cleansing against the majority of the population in an effort to create an ethnically pure state on stolen land, which is the most racist thing anybody can do, and then they accuse us for being racist because we tell them of how uncivilized and criminal their actions are!

[Kifeas]

The conditions, history and the political facts of what you mention has nothing to do with Cyprus, nothing. So stop your perversions . Cyprus isn`t Turkey and Cyprus isn`t Greece; but it is Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot. It is the right of the the people to exist on this island as political equals with the right to govern themselves in seperate zones (as fully described by the U.N. as a solution to the Cyprus Problem).

You look at those mountains and you look at them carefully; because there are the symbols of our existance which the likes of you have and are trying to wipe out. We will be in Cyprus forever. Get used to it.

Mutargaa, you make a big mistake in the way you interpret the UN resolutions, especially with your assumption that bi-zonality is just another form of bi-communality, in a territorial sense!

Read carefully! Bi-communality and political equality (which doesn’t mean numerical equality but only effective participation) is only a function of the central (federal) government! Bi-zonality has never been defined by the UN as the territorial separation of Cyprus into two "ethnically owned" zones, in which each of the two communities will be regarded as the “owners” and exclusive rulers of one of them respectively!

The zones (states) will be “owned” and governed by their permanent residents, irrespective of sub-ethnic (community) background, and not exclusively by the members of the one or the other community, alone! It will so happen that the majority of Cypriot citizens-residents in one of the two states will originate from the GC community, and the majority in the other state will originate from the TC community! Just this and nothing more! It doesn’t mean that the GC residents in the state in which the TCs will be the majority, will have no rights to participate in the running of that Zone (state;) or that they will be discriminated in any way whatsoever and will have no cultural, educational and political rights from within that state!

If the above wouldn't have been the case, then why should you ever have even one square inch of more territory than the 18% of Cyprus –set aside anything more than 1 ½ times your population share?

Stuff this in your little mind very deeply, read more carefully the UN resolutions (and the EU aqui,) and cut the idiotic propaganda in here!

[Pyrpolizer]

Hey Murataga look here:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus12390.html

The Tcs were massacred once again.

[Kifeas]

This is a reposting of the above due to a syntax error!

The conditions, history and the political facts of what you mention has nothing to do with Cyprus, nothing. So stop your perversions . Cyprus isn`t Turkey and Cyprus isn`t Greece; but it is Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot. It is the right of the the people to exist on this island as political equals with the right to govern themselves in seperate zones (as fully described by the U.N. as a solution to the Cyprus Problem).

You look at those mountains and you look at them carefully; because there are the symbols of our existance which the likes of you have and are trying to wipe out. We will be in Cyprus forever. Get used to it.

Mutargaa, you make a big mistake in the way you interpret the UN resolutions, especially with your assumption that bi-zonality is just another form of bi-communality, in a territorial sense!

Read carefully! Bi-communality and political equality (which doesn’t mean numerical equality but only effective participation) is only a function of the central (federal) government! Bi-zonality has never been defined by the UN as the territorial separation of Cyprus into two "ethnically owned" zones, in which each of the two communities will be regarded as the “owners” and exclusive rulers of each one respectively!

The zones (states) will be “owned” and governed by their permanent residents, irrespective of sub-ethnic (community) background, and not exclusively by the members of the one or the other community, alone! It will so happen that the majority of Cypriot citizens-residents in one of the two states will originate from the GC community, and the majority in the other state will originate from the TC community! Just this and nothing more! It doesn’t mean that the GC residents in the state in which the TCs will be the majority, will have no rights to participate in the running of that zone (state;) or that they will be discriminated in any way whatsoever and will have no cultural, educational and political rights from within that state!

If the above wouldn't have been the case, then why should you ever have even one square inch of more territory than the 18% of Cyprus –set aside 160% more than your population share that late Kofi Annal was giving you?

Stuff this in your little mind very deeply, read more carefully the UN resolutions (and the EU aqui,) and cut the idiotic propaganda inhere!

[Kifeas]

I have been convinced that Murataga is the biggest asshole in this forum! Mutargaa not only doesn’t respect the UN and any other international body and their resolutions, but in fact this asshole doesn’t actually want a solution of the Cyprus problem, other than partition with all the territory that his prostitute motherland has illegally invaded and occupied in 1974! He hopes that by twisting and misrepresenting the UN resolutions (and everything else) to suit his irredentist aspirations, he will convince the GCs to lose hope and run away from the solution prospect, so that his side (he hopes) will achieve recognition!

"Mutargaa tou garou" (rein of a donkey,) many others have tried during the many thousands of years that GCs exist in this country of theirs to ethnically cleanse them and steal their country, but they all failed and eventually left the island; but we managed to stay! Your pimp prostitute “motherland” and your concubine prostitute leadership (late and former) are very little to beat the history of the GCs in this country! If you and your likes do not change your pigsty attitude and come to your senses, soon you will be swallowed by your “motherland” and become extinct from Cyprus as a community, not to mention the fact that in a year from now your “motherland’s” EU accession process will be indefinitely discontinued, unless she recognizes the RoC as it is!

Eventually, because of some sick nationalistic fanatics like your “phiz,” your community will end up having the fait that the Phoenicians once had in Cyprus, who even though for a number of centuries accounted for ¼ of the Cypriot population, they eventually disappeared, and the only ones to have remained were the Greek Cypriots! Wake up and smell the Greek Cypriot coffee! We are a tree that has roots going 4,000 years deep into the soil of this country, and you are a tree with very small roots of only 400 years!

[Murataga]

There is a theory of evolution that states all people orignate from Africa.

Without intending to derail this thread...

When Turkey is ready to abandon her Turkic history, inheritance, and indigenousness and opt for an Ethiopian/Eritrean ethnic background; the oldest civilization found in the world, you may come and ask me to do that also.

In the meantime, I would ask that you and every other TC respect my Cypriot history, inheritance, and indigenousness. Thank you.

It has been prooven that you are not and exposed that you are lying about Greek Cypriots being indegenous and being in Cyprus for 10000 years. You are settlers that have come here much less than 10k years. Stop lying.

So what happened to the indigenous people of Cyprus Murataga if the GC’s are not their descendants? Did they get eaten up by the dinosaurs?

Where is the evidence of your invented theories? Did you read that in a children’s “TRNC” story book?

Here is one:

In the second half of the 13th century (BC) Cyprus suffered because of raids that were intensified and turned into devastating invasions in the last quarter of the same century.

When those disastrous events came to an end, we observe the massive arrival of the Mycenaean Greeks as permanent settlers to Cyprus, a process that started around 1200 BC and lasted for more than a century.

Now... does that sound:

originating or occurring naturally in an area or environment

or

The Greek Cypriots are the ONLY indigenous people on the island of Cyprus

or

The Greek Cypriots have a history on Cyprus spanning 10,000 years

Stop lying