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[miltiades]

It is totally futile to debate how long the G/Cs have been on this island and whether they are the only community that is indigenous or not. The T/Cs are here to stay , this is their island too and it is not dependent whether they came here as settlers , invaders or in any other form. The Island of Cyprus is the home of both the G/Cs and T/Cs and rather than debating who is indigenous and who isn't , we should be looking for ways for closer interaction so that we get to know and understand each others concerns and aspirations. You will be surprised at how similar our aspirations are. A peaceful independent Cyprus without foreign troops and with one nation for all Cypriots.

[paliometoxo]

they are trying to bring back the annan plan i read on the news cyprus weekly.

Evroko’s leader, Demetris Syllouris, claimed yesterday that there was a concerted effort to bring back the controversial Annan Plan, despite its rejection by 76% of Greek Cypriots in the April 2004 referendum.

http://www.cyprusweekly.com.cy/default. ... geID=304_1

[Murataga]

TCs and GCs are evry much the same I thought in DNA structure. We look similar (excluding mongolian looking turkish settlers) and there's one piece of irrefutable eveidence that points to our shared ancestry...our beta thallasaemia trait.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... t=Abstract

"Nearly identical percentages were observed for the two Cypriot groups, quite different from those for beta-thalassaemia patients from Greece and Turkey. This suggests close contacts between the two Cypriot communities during many centuries without a major recent influence from Greek or Turkish beta-thalassaemia carriers."

How do you explain that one then mr "there are two different peoples in cyprius" murataga.
No, there are 4 meddling, peddling nations who can't stop poking their sweaty fingers into Cyprus pie, look at us in the early 1940s, 50s, 60s - we could have been from medieval times for gods sake - ripe for manipulation by greedy and corrupt nations and religions...

I always wondered if the TCs were just GCs that sold out to the Ottoman empire for tax reasons TBH but I know I'm probably way off the mark

How many intermarriages are there between GCs and TCs (1571 to 1963) ? But again according to you the whole world might be greek right?

There are two peoples in Cyprus- TCs and GCs. The solution to our problems is not denying this but embracing it. Allowing each people to rule their people, by the people, for the people is the most fundamental human right.

[Murataga]

It is totally futile to debate how long the G/Cs have been on this island and whether they are the only community that is indigenous or not. The T/Cs are here to stay , this is their island too and it is not dependent whether they came here as settlers , invaders or in any other form. The Island of Cyprus is the home of both the G/Cs and T/Cs and rather than debating who is indigenous and who isn't , we should be looking for ways for closer interaction so that we get to know and understand each others concerns and aspirations. You will be surprised at how similar our aspirations are. A peaceful independent Cyprus without foreign troops and with one nation for all Cypriots.

I agree totally. However, racists that come out claiming that the GCs are indegeonous with 10k years of history thus have supeior rights in Cyprus is unacceptable to say the least. These lies will be exposed as such by science and logic and it is our duty as TCs and GCs to identify racist individuals that are responsible.

[Kifeas]

TCs and GCs are evry much the same I thought in DNA structure. We look similar (excluding mongolian looking turkish settlers) and there's one piece of irrefutable eveidence that points to our shared ancestry...our beta thallasaemia trait.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... t=Abstract

"Nearly identical percentages were observed for the two Cypriot groups, quite different from those for beta-thalassaemia patients from Greece and Turkey. This suggests close contacts between the two Cypriot communities during many centuries without a major recent influence from Greek or Turkish beta-thalassaemia carriers."

How do you explain that one then mr "there are two different peoples in cyprius" murataga.
No, there are 4 meddling, peddling nations who can't stop poking their sweaty fingers into Cyprus pie, look at us in the early 1940s, 50s, 60s - we could have been from medieval times for gods sake - ripe for manipulation by greedy and corrupt nations and religions...

I always wondered if the TCs were just GCs that sold out to the Ottoman empire for tax reasons TBH but I know I'm probably way off the mark

How many intermarriages are there between GCs and TCs (1571 to 1963) ? But again according to you the whole world might be greek right?

There are two peoples in Cyprus- TCs and GCs. The solution to our problems is not denying this but embracing it. Allowing each people to rule their people, by the people, for the people is the most fundamental human right.

Mutargaa (tou garou,) even if we were to accept your twisted approach that there are two peoples in Cyprus (really, how many are there in Turkey?) an even more important fundamental human right is that of a population having the right to his homes and properties, and to remain in the lands in which it existed for thousands of years as the indigenous population, and not to be ethnically cleansed for the sake of achieving the whatever irredentist political or national ambitions!

You may now fuck off!
Or, siktir, if you so prefer in Turkish!

[Murataga]

I just said the truth because Murataga tried to equate the way Greeks came to Cyprus and the way Cyprus was Hellenized, with the way the Turks came.

I don't hate "Turks", who I hate are those that invaded and illegally occupy my island thinking it still the middle ages and barbarian raids are still fine.

Without further comment...

For Turks bloodthirsty barbarians that butchered other nations to steal their lands

Unfortunately the Turks have not improved much since the middle ages

The solution for Cyprus can be either if Turks finally get civilized

The Turks are trying to wipe us out since they set their foot in Cyprus

If Turks were not what they are, and if the only thing that they knew was not killing and stealing the land of others....

What is pathetic is when the Turks, the worst kind of serial killers...

The brutality of Turks is well known to everybody in the region

[miltiades]

TCs and GCs are evry much the same I thought in DNA structure. We look similar (excluding mongolian looking turkish settlers) and there's one piece of irrefutable eveidence that points to our shared ancestry...our beta thallasaemia trait.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... t=Abstract

"Nearly identical percentages were observed for the two Cypriot groups, quite different from those for beta-thalassaemia patients from Greece and Turkey. This suggests close contacts between the two Cypriot communities during many centuries without a major recent influence from Greek or Turkish beta-thalassaemia carriers."

How do you explain that one then mr "there are two different peoples in cyprius" murataga.
No, there are 4 meddling, peddling nations who can't stop poking their sweaty fingers into Cyprus pie, look at us in the early 1940s, 50s, 60s - we could have been from medieval times for gods sake - ripe for manipulation by greedy and corrupt nations and religions...

I always wondered if the TCs were just GCs that sold out to the Ottoman empire for tax reasons TBH but I know I'm probably way off the mark

How many intermarriages are there between GCs and TCs (1571 to 1963) ? But again according to you the whole world might be greek right?

There are two peoples in Cyprus- TCs and GCs. The solution to our problems is not denying this but embracing it. Allowing each people to rule their people, by the people, for the people is the most fundamental human right.

Therefore in Turkey where there are 20 million Kurds and Turkey is denying the people to rule the people , Turkey is obviously denying these people "" the most fundamental human right." Likewise in the UK where there are people from the four corners of the world , including a few million Muslims who DO want to rule themselves , the UK should stop denying them their "fundamental rights " and allow them to rule their people. NO MATE.
Cyprus ain't Turkey , it ain't Greece either , it is Cyprus and its people will reject the partitionist efforts . I consider my self a true Cypriot , and wish to see the back of Turkey followed by all Greek troops carrying back to Greece their flags , and I want to see that monstrosity on a Cypriot mountain removed and replaced by the Cypriot flag.

[paliometoxo]

mabe one day we will see this re file:) i hope so to

[Murataga]

TCs and GCs are evry much the same I thought in DNA structure. We look similar (excluding mongolian looking turkish settlers) and there's one piece of irrefutable eveidence that points to our shared ancestry...our beta thallasaemia trait.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... t=Abstract

"Nearly identical percentages were observed for the two Cypriot groups, quite different from those for beta-thalassaemia patients from Greece and Turkey. This suggests close contacts between the two Cypriot communities during many centuries without a major recent influence from Greek or Turkish beta-thalassaemia carriers."

How do you explain that one then mr "there are two different peoples in cyprius" murataga.
No, there are 4 meddling, peddling nations who can't stop poking their sweaty fingers into Cyprus pie, look at us in the early 1940s, 50s, 60s - we could have been from medieval times for gods sake - ripe for manipulation by greedy and corrupt nations and religions...

I always wondered if the TCs were just GCs that sold out to the Ottoman empire for tax reasons TBH but I know I'm probably way off the mark

How many intermarriages are there between GCs and TCs (1571 to 1963) ? But again according to you the whole world might be greek right?

There are two peoples in Cyprus- TCs and GCs. The solution to our problems is not denying this but embracing it. Allowing each people to rule their people, by the people, for the people is the most fundamental human right.

Therefore in Turkey where there are 20 million Kurds and Turkey is denying the people to rule the people , Turkey is obviously denying these people "" the most fundamental human right." Likewise in the UK where there are people from the four corners of the world , including a few million Muslims who DO want to rule themselves , the UK should stop denying them their "fundamental rights " and allow them to rule their people. NO MATE.
Cyprus ain't Turkey , it ain't Greece either , it is Cyprus and its people will reject the partitionist efforts . I consider my self a true Cypriot , and wish to see the back of Turkey followed by all Greek troops carrying back to Greece their flags , and I want to see that monstrosity on a Cypriot mountain removed and replaced by the Cypriot flag.

The conditions, history and the political facts of what you mention has nothing to do with Cyprus, nothing. So stop your perversions . Cyprus isn`t Turkey and Cyprus isn`t Greece; but it is Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot. It is the right of the the people to exist on this island as political equals with the right to govern themselves in seperate zones (as fully described by the U.N. as a solution to the Cyprus Problem).

You look at those mountains and you look at them carefully; because there are the symbols of our existance which the likes of you have and are trying to wipe out. We will be in Cyprus forever. Get used to it.

[Piratis]

TCs and GCs are evry much the same I thought in DNA structure. We look similar (excluding mongolian looking turkish settlers) and there's one piece of irrefutable eveidence that points to our shared ancestry...our beta thallasaemia trait.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... t=Abstract

"Nearly identical percentages were observed for the two Cypriot groups, quite different from those for beta-thalassaemia patients from Greece and Turkey. This suggests close contacts between the two Cypriot communities during many centuries without a major recent influence from Greek or Turkish beta-thalassaemia carriers."

How do you explain that one then mr "there are two different peoples in cyprius" murataga.
No, there are 4 meddling, peddling nations who can't stop poking their sweaty fingers into Cyprus pie, look at us in the early 1940s, 50s, 60s - we could have been from medieval times for gods sake - ripe for manipulation by greedy and corrupt nations and religions...

I always wondered if the TCs were just GCs that sold out to the Ottoman empire for tax reasons TBH but I know I'm probably way off the mark

How many intermarriages are there between GCs and TCs (1571 to 1963) ? But again according to you the whole world might be greek right?

There are two peoples in Cyprus- TCs and GCs. The solution to our problems is not denying this but embracing it. Allowing each people to rule their people, by the people, for the people is the most fundamental human right.

Murataga, thanks for admitting that TCs are nothing more than the same Turkish invadors, and not the indegenous people of Cyprus.

Beyond that all your claims on Cyprus are simply the same claims that the barbarian Turks always had against the people the invaded. Nothing new here.