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Are Turkish Cypriots indigenous to Cyprus?

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Postby GorillaGal » Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:07 am

oranos64 wrote:So its ok ..to wipe out and displace cultures and force them to accept yours ,then remove them from their land and eventually establish ways to manipulate their cultures and enforce acceptance of your views and culture

o yeah your in america ....


works for us.
but we didn't wipe out cultures. we live, for the most part, peacable. and we celebrate our different cultures. and god(dess) forbid--sometimes we even cross racial boarders and marry!!!!!
i was married to a colombian, my father is married to a black woman.
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Postby GorillaGal » Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:10 am

oranos64 wrote:we will not allow the past to be forgotten ... the same way black people have no history ,thanks to western europe and the U.S ...

The original displacements and 5000 years of never knowing freedom for Greeks will never be forgotten.

Viepoint
The E.U will never accept nor see equality for the North ...no matter how many bent politicians you buy .
with the A.K party back in power on your mainland ...you attempts into Europe are over ...

no 1 trusts you ...no one ever will ...threathen us please ... when we start digging for Gas .,..you will prove you have not changed from the barbarians you once were ...


black people do too have a history, and they are very aware of it.
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Re: Are Turkish Cypriots indigenous to Cyprus?

Postby Get Real! » Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:22 am

GorillaGal wrote:wkae up GR, it's 2007. the turks are there, and they aren't leaving. what is so wrong with co-existing? yes, i know some of you will point out that i livce in a country that was once owned by our native americans. and yes, we have more crime than you do in cyprus, but we have a heck of alot more people per capita. and still we manage to get along, and celebrate everyone's heritage, without having to build a wall.
the greeks are there, the turks are there. i have known both people, and they are both wonderful races. why do you have to keep bringing up something aht happened in the ottoman empire? you can't change history, so why not embrace it, acknowledge it, and MOVE ON already. it's the only way to the cypriot solution. instead, all i hear about is how this race was there first, no that one was. you both have good points. get over it, get on with it, stop worrying about it.
i love you all, the GC and the TC. i would love nothing more than to see peace, at last, and acceptance.

GG, unfortunately the Cyprus problem has evolved into a myriad of complex technicalities that must be addressed one at a time. With this particular thread I wanted to challenge any TC into proving the “indigenousness” that a few claim to have.

The reason it is important is because these very same people are attempting to pervert historical facts to aid in their partition schemes so we must clear up what I call the BASIC HISTORICAL FACTS ON CYPRUS.

There is another set of basic facts on Cyprus that are contemporary, but nonetheless very important that I’ll write about in another thread.

Regards, GR.

PS: Still waiting for a challenger.
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Postby theodore » Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:00 am

[quote="Viewpoint"][quote="humanist"]NO THEY ARE NOT, they arrived with the Ottoman empire stole land back then and stayed and are stealing land now and staying, only now the international community is saying that is not right and we will not assist in them in their game.[/quote]

So will the international community give you your land back? been 33 years and nothing zilch do you know why? they dont give a shit humanist wake up and smell reality.[/quote]

Look this American also agree that Turkey has ethnically cleanse the Greek Cypriots and import thousands of illegals on the North. But God is the ultimate judge you see.
This is not your land. Never will be, you all just impose your self there.
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Postby GorillaGal » Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:05 am

oh come on now.... this land is your land, this land is my land,
who can own land??? it is not ours to own. it is like owning sky, you can't own what is not yours. we were put here to love and to share.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:29 am

GorillaGal wrote:oh come on now.... this land is your land, this land is my land,
who can own land??? it is not ours to own. it is like owning sky, you can't own what is not yours. we were put here to love and to share.

GG, you really are derailing my thread with irrelevant bulldust! The next time somebody comes to break into your home give them the keys and get out because you're meant to "love and share".

Now I would really appreciate it if you DIDN'T respond to this irrelevant crap you started and just RESPECT the topic please.

Thank you.
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Postby GorillaGal » Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:31 am

well, since you are being nice, for once......
good night get real
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Postby humanist » Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:57 am

Oranos, I really don't care what happened in the Otoman period really. And today I am feeling so dispondent that it really does not make me agood conversationalist. The future is what really concerns me.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:06 am

humanist wrote:Oranos, I really don't care what happened in the Otoman period really. And today I am feeling so dispondent that it really does not make me agood conversationalist. The future is what really concerns me.

You should care because it’s the crux of the trickery being used by the Turks and Turkish Cypriot partitionists.

What they are doing is attempting to UNDERMINE your history, inheritance, and indigenousness, so us to appear as though they are equal to you and thus be entitled to “equal partnership”.

By lowering their opponent’s status they elevate themselves so don’t ever fall for it!
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Re: Are Turkish Cypriots indigenous to Cyprus?

Postby Murataga » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:04 am

Get Real! wrote:Are Turkish Cypriots indigenous to Cyprus?

There is nothing complicated about this matter yet many are seemingly still confused. Indigenous means originating or occurring naturally in an area or environment.

The Turkish Cypriot people are the REMNANTS of the Ottoman invasion so there is NOTHING indigenous about them.

They DO NOT ORIGINATE and HAVE NOT OCCURRED NATURALLY from/on Cyprus but instead they first came to Cyprus UNINVITED in 1571.

Every single Turkish Cypriot should RECOGNISE, ACCEPT, and MEMORIZE the basic FACTS of Cyprus which are:

1. The Greek Cypriots are the ONLY indigenous people on the island of Cyprus.

2. The Greek Cypriots have a history on Cyprus spanning 10,000 years.

3. The oldest Greek Cypriot settlement found is older than that of anything ever found in Turkey or Greece.


Anyone who calls himself a CYPRIOT and expects to have any credibility and respect should first start by getting their basic facts right about Cyprus and that includes you VP.

Regards, GR.


Myceneans, which is whom the GCs "believe" to decend from and hold responsible for their Hellenic identity, are nothing but settlers themselves from what is today southern Greece, at a period much less than 10000 years back; and I hardly believe they received an invitation from anyone 8)
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