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TC Family were beat up on Makarios Avenue

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Postby Kikapu » Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:50 pm

I have few questions and an observation to make.

This family have been coming to the South often as well as supporting a peace and unification. How does one go from that to "we can't have peace with these people and how did they get into the EU" with just one incident.?

Where did all this irrelevant Political Jargon come from all of a sudden.? The only thing that was damaged, if any, was the car. No one was physically hurt, so whats with the "I'm going to tell my story to all the papers upon my return to the UK and by the way, I'll never fly from Larnaca again".

Is this person for real, that an off chance incident on a very hostile day, that they run into a demonstration, and this person cannot separate a mop mentality towards them and reality of all his past trouble free experiences in the South. Is he being a opportunist and seeking attention or what, or was he coached by others to reach his decision ??. I would have thought, a reasonable person will make the connection of the date, the demonstration, and his passed experience in the South and said, "shit happens"..

Something stinks in Denmark and I don't think it's the cheese.!!!

By the way, VP claimed that these people were "beaten up". So what is VP's excuse for exaggerating his post.??

A family of TCs who went south on the 20//7 thinking they were safe and firm supporters of trusting GCs and reunification were beaten up and spat on by angry GCs, was this reported in your press?
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Postby bigOz » Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:51 pm

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bigOz wrote:alexISS my friend, my English is perfect and I am well aware of what "all people" have written or implied!

What I meant was that they wrote what they wrote because of the lack of a link or source

bigOz wrote:The story would not make the front page in all the press because some press has political views which rather brush such events under the carpet in the present climate of looking for ways of living together!

You mean that there are TC media that would conceal the truth so that the RoC doesn't look bad?

bigOz wrote:I think you are wrong in dismissing the report or at least implying that it did not take place, because - whatever its political views are - Kibris Newspaper is the most popular and professionally produced newspaper in the North, and is not known to report anything untrue.

What I said is that the newspiece only shows the view of the "victim", so it can't be certain that it's true because it can't be certain that the "victim" said the truth, that's all!

Those who really want a unified Cyprus and wish to encourage it (albeit prematurely) would want to conceal such news or at least give them as little coverage as possible. Nothing wrong with that I guess, but it can be misleading and dangerous in the long run. Yes, there are left wing newspapers in TRNC that would do that and I am not judging whether it is right or wrong. I am just stating a fact well known to many TCs as response to your question.

Then there are others who thrive in such news, trying to psychoanalyze and expand it as much as possible - again on both sides! How it is actually done is irrelevant but I think if you read Piratis' and Kikapu's posts above you'll see exactly where I am coming from... :D
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Postby alexISS » Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:00 pm

bigOz wrote:Those who really want a unified Cyprus and wish to encourage it (albeit prematurely) would want to conceal such news or at least give them as little coverage as possible. Nothing wrong with that I guess, but it can be misleading and dangerous in the long run. Yes, there are left wing newspapers in TRNC that would do that and I am not judging whether it is right or wrong. I am just stating a fact well known to many TCs as response to your question.

Well I didn't know that... btw, how did the left wing media deal with the celebrations of the 20th of July?
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:09 pm

bigOz wrote:
alexISS wrote:
bigOz wrote:alexISS my friend, my English is perfect and I am well aware of what "all people" have written or implied!

What I meant was that they wrote what they wrote because of the lack of a link or source

bigOz wrote:The story would not make the front page in all the press because some press has political views which rather brush such events under the carpet in the present climate of looking for ways of living together!

You mean that there are TC media that would conceal the truth so that the RoC doesn't look bad?

bigOz wrote:I think you are wrong in dismissing the report or at least implying that it did not take place, because - whatever its political views are - Kibris Newspaper is the most popular and professionally produced newspaper in the North, and is not known to report anything untrue.

What I said is that the newspiece only shows the view of the "victim", so it can't be certain that it's true because it can't be certain that the "victim" said the truth, that's all!

Those who really want a unified Cyprus and wish to encourage it (albeit prematurely) would want to conceal such news or at least give them as little coverage as possible. Nothing wrong with that I guess, but it can be misleading and dangerous in the long run. Yes, there are left wing newspapers in TRNC that would do that and I am not judging whether it is right or wrong. I am just stating a fact well known to many TCs as response to your question.

Then there are others who thrive in such news, trying to psychoanalyze and expand it as much as possible - again on both sides! How it is actually done is irrelevant but I think if you read Piratis' and Kikapu's posts above you'll see exactly where I am coming from... :D


BigOz,

How on earth can you read my post, which was posted at 12.50 and make your reply post (this one) at 12.51. I even made a small correction to my post at 12.51.

I've heard of "fast fingers" before, but this take the cake. :lol:
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Postby iceman » Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:12 pm

Kikapu wrote:I've heard of "fast fingers" before, but this take the cake. :lol:


Kikapu...have you not heard of opening more than one windows and keeping track of the same thread while typing a reply? :wink:
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Postby Piratis » Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:25 pm

Those who really want a unified Cyprus and wish to encourage it (albeit prematurely) would want to conceal such news or at least give them as little coverage as possible.

bigOz, how many TC newspapers did not report the Grammar School incident several months ago?
Sorry mate, but you are giving us a load of crap here. The TC press have proven time and time again that all they care is how to score points and support the illegalities against us.
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:05 pm

iceman wrote:
Kikapu wrote:I've heard of "fast fingers" before, but this take the cake. :lol:


Kikapu...have you not heard of opening more than one windows and keeping track of the same thread while typing a reply? :wink:



I can barely keep track of things with just one window open, so please Iceman, don't confuse my fragile mind. :lol: :lol:

I open 2 windows sometimes, but that's for getting something from another thread, but still, we are talking about 1 minute difference here, and more than likely, he was typing during this time and not reading. :?
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Postby DT. » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:22 pm

bigOz wrote:
alexISS wrote:
bigOz wrote:I think an apology by those who accused the source of this thread as a "liar" and used insulting language would now be very appropriate! :D


All the people were asking for was a link to the story. Besides, the fact that this story did not make it to frontpage in all the press is enough to doubt its accuracy. No eyewitnesses, just the testimony of the "victims" which could be very inaccurate if not completely false

alexISS my friend, my English is perfect and I am well aware of what "all people" have written or implied! The story would not make the front page in all the press because some press has political views which rather brush such events under the carpet in the present climate of looking for ways of living together!

I think you are wrong in dismissing the report or at least implying that it did not take place, because - whatever its political views are - Kibris Newspaper is the most popular and professionally produced newspaper in the North, and is not known to report anything untrue.
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2) We have thugs over here like there are thugs over there (Grey Wolves have a party now from what I see....3rd biggest)
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4) I apologise for the idiots that did this yet wonder if VP would apologise if the Grey Wolves sprung up on a GC car.....

Of course DT, we have similar thugs on our side just as any other country has. But the fact remains, no Greek car was attacked in such a way in TRNC, although many GCs have crossed over! I have witnessed one particular GC from London complaining in CF that when a TC policeman stopped them for speeding and looked at the driver's licence, he gave them a bad look (?) - if that was important enough for him to make a big deal out of and be applauded by others in this forum, then God help us if their car was smashed to bits and the TC policeman looked the other way!

As for your last question - if any thugs on the TC side were to attack a GC car in the same manner, not only the TC police would rush in to stop it, but many individuals from the public (including myself if I was there) would dive onto the assailants to pull them off the vehicle, probably telling them off with a few slaps for good measure, and attending the assaulted to comfort them!



BigOz maybe you missed iceman's previous post. This shit happens on both sides.

What i find difficult to believe is that the police didn't interfere and that bystanders didn't fight back. This is the part i wish to investigate and have already written to phileleftheros and politis to see what they know of this incident.
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Postby bigOz » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:38 pm

Kikapu wrote:
iceman wrote:
Kikapu wrote:I've heard of "fast fingers" before, but this take the cake. :lol:


Kikapu...have you not heard of opening more than one windows and keeping track of the same thread while typing a reply? :wink:



I can barely keep track of things with just one window open, so please Iceman, don't confuse my fragile mind. :lol: :lol:

I open 2 windows sometimes, but that's for getting something from another thread, but still, we are talking about 1 minute difference here, and more than likely, he was typing during this time and not reading. :?

errm...! My current profession actually involves computer programming at high level languages as well as few lower ones, eCommerce (online marketing) and Search Engine Optimisation - add to that good 8 hours a day of computer related work every day (not forum reading by the way) and you might appreciate why I would sometimes have a slight advantage. :lol:

Knowing exactly how you think and what you will be asking next, as well as to prevent any unnecessary assumptions, based on previous info-exchange, there is the need for the following addendum: (So please do not interpret this as boasting or self appraising) Although I do have commercial and instructors flight ratings, flight instruction is just a part-time hobby for me. :D
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:14 pm

How pathetic only humanist put out a sincere apology the rest made excuses just like the 1960s saying they probably asked for it and deserved it and now have the gaul to lie about being attacked my a mob with the GC police looking on just to score points. One idiot even said well they weren't hurt whats the problem..this attitude is appalling and only reconfirms to Tcs how they would be treated in a united Cyprus run by GCs...hey GC policeman my wife has been brutally raped by a GC...is it just her story or did she get it on film, she probably asked for it and he was forced to rape her...probably a slut in the wrong place at the wrong time, tell her to go home and take 2 paracetamol it will pass, she must lying. How pathetic.
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