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[magikthrill]

i dont know what politicians do all i know is that i am responding to a post "out of the teeth" (no reservations)

what i wanted to say was this type of tourism (i wont call it the way i did to make everyone feel better) will care less if somebody who bought a stolen property has to give it back.

[brother]

I respect your opinion.

[magikthrill]

and i respect yours

now enough procrastination. time to get to work!!!

[brother]

true, but a bit slow today at my work place after the half term.

[turkcyp]

The majority of Brits that come to Cyprus are merely British trash that are after weather their motherland could never provide them with. All they do is follow the alcohol and the sun...

I do not know ho wmany times you have been to North Cypus but I do not know how many Brits you have met ion North Cyprus that have bought homes in the north, but the ones I have come accross to does not definetly fit to this description.

Most of them are usually older age (50 plus) trying to retire in Cyprus, has had jobs in UK like physician, teacher etc. etc. I even ran into Brist who are younger in age (30s) who are oving to Cyprus with tehir kids to raise them in a safer environemnt then UK.

This does not tell that there are crooks that move to Cyprus to avoid illegal charges in UK, and does not tell that there are no young tourists that you have described that just come to party. But a very high majority of home buyes in north does not fit to this description.

Take care,

[Piratis]

Hello Everyone,
If you are happy with your relations with the UK and the animosity Southern Cyprus is fuelling not only towards English people but many others..then you have nothing to worry about. Dont forget Southern Cyprus receives over 1.2 million tourists from the UK every year, thats a big contribution to your economy. Keep it up I am sure if you get a positive result in UK which is very questionable then you will have a lot of siezed English property to sell off and obtain compensation (ring any bells?), this does not really serve your purpose in the long run of wanting the return of your original properties.

The only solution is to return to the table and negotiate in good faith for return of properties under a global mechanism which takes into account the current situation, if left to late this "current situation" will continue to become more and more complicated and a lot more pre 1974 owners will not be able to return to their properties.

As i said previously, I personally believe that the property issue should be more flexible towards Greek Cypriots and incorporate aspects that would answer most of their needs as far as it is possible under the "current situation"

If the Britons treat us right, we will treat them right. If they don't, then they should not expect from us the best. Take your colonial attitude and shove it in your ass. Most british people will not dislike Cypriots simply because Cypriots are trying to get back what they own. Apparently the reason you react in this way is a lot more personal.

And by the way, UK is among the least liked in the rest of EU, so try to correct your image first before giving lessons to us. Be less arrogant and stop siding with the Americans on everything and then maybe other Europeans will like UK more.

[rotate]

[quote="Agios Amvrosios"]Rotate has a point about GC Cops and nepotism.

What is the 1st thing a GC copper asks you when he pulls you over?

May I please see your licence & Registration? -NO-
"What does your father do? OK- GO and don't do it again."

But- anyway. This should not be dismissed as merely a political stunt as we are talking about a private court application by an individual as opposed to an action by the government. Apostolidis has a genuine loss which cannot be dismissed. He also has a legal remedy which he is able pursue (end quote).

Thank You "Agios Amvrosios" Just wish our situation and that of our neighbours with the Bar Owning Police Officer in Larnaca was as funny as the case you quote. Unfortunately thats the darker side to life in Cyprus which rarely gets discussed. We may have just a very small chance of getting our home back in Famagusta in some far off distant time zone but we have absolutely nil chance of being able to return to our home in Larnaca thanks to the curruption that exists within Cypriot society.

Best not buy ANY property in Cyprus at all as its either been stolen from somebody else or if it has'nt someone will either steal it from you or force you out regardless of your ethnicity. Sadly the worlds full of barstewards!

[cannedmoose]

If the Britons treat us right, we will treat them right. If they don't, then they should not expect from us the best. Take your colonial attitude and shove it in your ass. Most british people will not dislike Cypriots simply because Cypriots are trying to get back what they own. Apparently the reason you react in this way is a lot more personal.

And by the way, UK is among the least liked in the rest of EU, so try to correct your image first before giving lessons to us. Be less arrogant and stop siding with the Americans on everything and then maybe other Europeans will like UK more.

I'll start by saying that I certainly didn't agree with the tone of the original post, so I'm disowning any 'colonial attitude' as Piratis would put it. Some British people who move to Cyprus do indeed bring colonial baggage and essentially just want to live in British communes where they can live with other Brits but with good weather, much as they do in Spain and elsewhere. Personally, I can't think of anything more distasteful. As a Brit married to a GC, who has made the effort to appreciate Greek culture, lifestyle, food etc. I can see how much these people are missing out on.

So, although some of my countrymen are arrogant, condescending etc., in my experience, some GC's also have those qualities in abundance. I've lost count of the number of times I've been lectured on the Cyprus problem by my GC friends, only for me to respond with pointed questions and be accused (in as friendly a manner as they can muster) of being pro-Turk. So, if Brits have a 'colonial attitude', in many respects some GC's continue to have a 'colonial attitude' also, stuck in the past and an attachment to a victim status.

As for Britain's status in Europe, that's largely due to disagreements over Iraq. Generally the UK is well respected across the continent as a progressive influence for economic liberalisation, which is why many countries in Central and Eastern Europe look to the UK as a model rather than their megalithic neighbour Germany. Also, if we are getting into a popularity contest, the RoC government is hardly winning any awards in European capitals as we speak.

So, as I hope I've pointed out, generic labels such as arrogant, colonial attitude etc. don't do anyone a favour. As someone who 'treats Cypriots right', I hope you will do the same for me.

[Viewpoint]

Piratis;
If the Britons treat us right, we will treat them right. If they don't, then they should not expect from us the best. Take your colonial attitude and shove it in your ass. Most british people will not dislike Cypriots simply because Cypriots are trying to get back what they own. Apparently the reason you react in this way is a lot more personal.

So tell the 1.2 million British tourists that visit the south each year to fuck off we dont need you. You treat us badly. (The f word was introduced by Piratis, so he deserves to hear it back I apologise to all other members of the forum)

The British population in the north form a strong lobby, they are not youngsters here for sun sea and sex, they are mature well educated individuals and can influence MPs in the UK, who shape British foreign policy.

Yes you are right the property issue is personal to my family as well, our 2 homes were demolished, these properties were new in 1974. We have not claimed anything in the north, but we are now considering taking legal action.

Piratis
And by the way, UK is among the least liked in the rest of EU, so try to correct your image first before giving lessons to us. Be less arrogant and stop siding with the Americans on everything and then maybe other Europeans will like UK more

You are like a big spoilt child, well no one else likes him so he must be bad, I dont want to play with him anyway. Everyone else is wrong and to blame, Im whiter than white attitude sucks.

And lastly I dont want to shove anything up my arse, maybe you do this on regular basis, you come accross as a very bitter and angry person who uses foul language to try and aggriavate other forum members.

[Piratis]

So tell the 1.2 million British tourists that visit the south each year to fuck off we dont need you.

The ones that do not behave correctly, do not like us, and the ones that act in illegal ways (like the ones you support), are obviously not welcomed at all. I have absolutely no problem with the rest.

The British population in the north form a strong lobby

Well, they should be prepared to do a lot of lobbying and fight every day of their lives until they leave from our homes then, because we are not giving up and we are going to get them in one way or another.

Yes you are right the property issue is personal to my family as well, our 2 homes were demolished, these properties were new in 1974. We have not claimed anything in the north, but we are now considering taking legal action.

So you owned property from before 74 and it was demolished? By whom? In any case getting your property back has nothing to do with buying stolen property.

you come accross as a very bitter and angry person

I am a bit crazy too, and I have a G3 with 200 bullets with me. So be careful (just kidding)[/quote]