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Cyprus villa row hits Britons who 'could lose everything'

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Postby Agios Amvrosios » Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:25 am

Rotate has a point about GC Cops and nepotism.

What is the 1st thing a GC copper asks you when he pulls you over?

May I please see your licence & Registration? -NO-
"What does your father do? OK- GO and don't do it again."

But- anyway. This should not be dismissed as merely a political stunt as we are talking about a private court application by an individual as opposed to an action by the government. Apostolidis has a genuine loss which cannot be dismissed. He also has a legal remedy which he is able pursue.

I do agree that the result would shape political and diplomatic issues. But to me that is a benefit because the policitical solution of the Cyprus Issue can only be valid if it mirrors the law and legal principles.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:06 am

Dear Esentepe
This GC gentleman can follow all avenues open to him its his right, if we assume he gets a positive result in UK and the Orams home is siezed, will that solve the Cyprus issue???will he get his land back??? will he feel better for having prosecuted an English couple?? will he feel that he has stopped the development ball from rolling in the north??? or will he feel a sense of satisfaction for creating bad will between the English people and our communties??
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Postby Piratis » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:21 am

The "bad will" is created by those that go and buy the properties that were stolen from us. They should know that with their criminal action they created enemies, and that in the end the "great deal" of buying our property for cheap will be very costly for them in one way or another.
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Postby -mikkie2- » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:24 am

All the guy wants is to have his land back, just like Agios Amvrosios does. The Orams are pleading ignorance. Unfortunately in a court of law, ignorance is no defence.

If you buy a stolen car and you didn't know it was stolen and the next day the police come knocking on your door, they take the car away. You loose your money and the car!

It is exacty the same with the Orams. They gambled on buying cheap land in northern Cyprus from a person that does not legally own it. They should be prepared to take the consequences.
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Postby Agios Amvrosios » Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:41 am

Dear Viewpoint,

I do not think that any genuine ill will of significance is being created if individual GC's are by pursuing legal rights I mean the Foreign Office has Warnings posted on its website. There is a warning on the British Foreign Office website against property speculation in the Occupied Areas.

At the end of the day alot of people were buying property in the North speculating on the out come of the 24 April Referendum and they bet the wrong way despite all the signals.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:06 am

Hello Everyone,
If you are happy with your relations with the UK and the animosity Southern Cyprus is fuelling not only towards English people but many others..then you have nothing to worry about. Dont forget Southern Cyprus receives over 1.2 million tourists from the UK every year, thats a big contribution to your economy. Keep it up I am sure if you get a positive result in UK which is very questionable then you will have a lot of siezed English property to sell off and obtain compensation (ring any bells?), this does not really serve your purpose in the long run of wanting the return of your original properties.

The only solution is to return to the table and negotiate in good faith for return of properties under a global mechanism which takes into account the current situation, if left to late this "current situation" will continue to become more and more complicated and a lot more pre 1974 owners will not be able to return to their properties.

As i said previously, I personally believe that the property issue should be more flexible towards Greek Cypriots and incorporate aspects that would answer most of their needs as far as it is possible under the "current situation"
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Postby magikthrill » Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:58 am

Viewpoint wrote:Hello Everyone,
If you are happy with your relations with the UK and the animosity Southern Cyprus is fuelling not only towards English people but many others..then you have nothing to worry about. Dont forget Southern Cyprus receives over 1.2 million tourists from the UK every year, thats a big contribution to your economy. Keep it up I am sure if you get a positive result in UK which is very questionable then you will have a lot of siezed English property to sell off and obtain compensation (ring any bells?), this does not really serve your purpose in the long run of wanting the return of your original properties.

The only solution is to return to the table and negotiate in good faith for return of properties under a global mechanism which takes into account the current situation, if left to late this "current situation" will continue to become more and more complicated and a lot more pre 1974 owners will not be able to return to their properties.

As i said previously, I personally believe that the property issue should be more flexible towards Greek Cypriots and incorporate aspects that would answer most of their needs as far as it is possible under the "current situation"



LoL.

It is not in ou r intereste to get our property back? oh viewpoint...

The majority of Brits that come to Cyprus are merely British trash that are after weather their motherland could never provide them with. All they do is follow the alcohol and the sun...

THey could try other places but nothing like the Ag. Napa destination that is marketed completely to the british trash type of tourism.
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Postby brother » Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:11 pm

ouch..that was a bit harsh on the brits...
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Postby magikthrill » Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:28 pm

no it was a remark on the british trash. there is trash in every culture. its just that the majority of brits who come to cyprus are british trash.

also i dont see you discrediting my post brother, why is this so?
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Postby brother » Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:32 pm

Some things are known but not said, whether they are trash or not they still provide valuable revenue, do you think it wise to keep attacking the brits so publicly like many cypriot politicians are doing at the moment, it seems to me like cutting your nose off to spite your face.
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