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[Pyrpolizer]

Listen Murataga I will just let you melt in your TMT glory.

You force me say bitter things just to oppose a SINGLE FANATIC person like you. I have friends who I respect in here and I don't like hurting them by what i am forced to reply to you.

sO LONG CONTINUE WITH YOUR USUAL MONOLOGUES. aS IF YOU HAVN'T ALREADY NOTICED THAT NOBODY PAYS ANY attention to what you say in your repeatitive anger and frustration.

[Murataga]

Listen Murataga I will just let you melt in your TMT glory.

You force me say bitter things just to oppose a SINGLE FANATIC person like you. I have friends who I respect in here and I don't like hurting them by what i am forced to reply to you.

sO LONG CONTINUE WITH YOUR USUAL MONOLOGUES. aS IF YOU HAVN'T ALREADY NOTICED THAT NOBODY PAYS ANY attention to what you say in your repeatitive anger and frustration.

Typical response, how sad. I am sorry that you are out of words as your disappointment in failing to defend your illegalities and inhumane treatment of the TCs have peaked. Perhaps you should see the facts as they are and not from a perverted point of view dictated in your educational system and monopolic media. I have no anger but as with most of my TCs are frusturated with the crimes and illegalities of the GC regime directed against us that has been going on fro 44 years. How can we not be?

[paliometoxo]

illegalities of the GC regime ? you mean the TC regime

[paliometoxo]

TRNC sorry

[Pyrpolizer]

Listen Murataga I will just let you melt in your TMT glory.

You force me say bitter things just to oppose a SINGLE FANATIC person like you. I have friends who I respect in here and I don't like hurting them by what i am forced to reply to you.

sO LONG CONTINUE WITH YOUR USUAL MONOLOGUES. aS IF YOU HAVN'T ALREADY NOTICED THAT NOBODY PAYS ANY attention to what you say in your repeatitive anger and frustration.

Typical response, how sad. I am sorry that you are out of words as your disappointment in failing to defend your illegalities and inhumane treatment of the TCs have peaked. Perhaps you should see the facts as they are and not from a perverted point of view dictated in your educational system and monopolic media. I have no anger but as with most of my TCs are frusturated with the crimes and illegalities of the GC regime directed against us that has been going on fro 44 years. How can we not be?

[Kifeas]

Listen Murataga I will just let you melt in your TMT glory.

You force me say bitter things just to oppose a SINGLE FANATIC person like you. I have friends who I respect in here and I don't like hurting them by what i am forced to reply to you.

sO LONG CONTINUE WITH YOUR USUAL MONOLOGUES. aS IF YOU HAVN'T ALREADY NOTICED THAT NOBODY PAYS ANY attention to what you say in your repeatitive anger and frustration.

Typical response, how sad. I am sorry that you are out of words as your disappointment in failing to defend your illegalities and inhumane treatment of the TCs have peaked. Perhaps you should see the facts as they are and not from a perverted point of view dictated in your educational system and monopolic media. I have no anger but as with most of my TCs are frusturated with the crimes and illegalities of the GC regime directed against us that has been going on fro 44 years. How can we not be?

Mutargaa, aren't you tired of repeating the same lies for 50 years now, without anyone in the international community ever believing you at all?

[Murataga]

Listen Murataga I will just let you melt in your TMT glory.

You force me say bitter things just to oppose a SINGLE FANATIC person like you. I have friends who I respect in here and I don't like hurting them by what i am forced to reply to you.

sO LONG CONTINUE WITH YOUR USUAL MONOLOGUES. aS IF YOU HAVN'T ALREADY NOTICED THAT NOBODY PAYS ANY attention to what you say in your repeatitive anger and frustration.

Typical response, how sad. I am sorry that you are out of words as your disappointment in failing to defend your illegalities and inhumane treatment of the TCs have peaked. Perhaps you should see the facts as they are and not from a perverted point of view dictated in your educational system and monopolic media. I have no anger but as with most of my TCs are frusturated with the crimes and illegalities of the GC regime directed against us that has been going on fro 44 years. How can we not be?

[Kifeas]

Listen Murataga I will just let you melt in your TMT glory.

You force me say bitter things just to oppose a SINGLE FANATIC person like you. I have friends who I respect in here and I don't like hurting them by what i am forced to reply to you.

sO LONG CONTINUE WITH YOUR USUAL MONOLOGUES. aS IF YOU HAVN'T ALREADY NOTICED THAT NOBODY PAYS ANY attention to what you say in your repeatitive anger and frustration.

Typical response, how sad. I am sorry that you are out of words as your disappointment in failing to defend your illegalities and inhumane treatment of the TCs have peaked. Perhaps you should see the facts as they are and not from a perverted point of view dictated in your educational system and monopolic media. I have no anger but as with most of my TCs are frusturated with the crimes and illegalities of the GC regime directed against us that has been going on fro 44 years. How can we not be?

Nobody believes you Mutargaa! No one takes you seriously my friend! Just look around you!

[Kikapu]

I don't know what you all think of the Turkish election results from yesterday in Turkey, and I'm surprised no one has talked about them yet. The results were good for a future settlement of Cyprus I believe, because the new government still has the goal to enter the EU and will make gradual changes in their laws and same time improve their economy. I think this also plays well with the opposition party who are the wealthy elitist, so they have something in common to work together. The scarf issues will be buried in no time. This leaves the Military and the Nationalist , a very minute of the 70+ million Turks to fend for themselves. Give it one or two more elections as the ones yesterday, then the military and the Nationalist will become history, as far as having any political say in Turkeys future to move further and further to the West and into the EU. Turkey will need to give up her bargaining chip to enter the EU, and that is the Northern Part of Cyprus, aka, the "TRNC".

I would like to get Bir's and BigOz's take on the Turkish elections.

I am afraid it is not at all like your interpretation above! Below is the table of new parliamentary seats:


As can be sen the MHP (Nationalist Party) had doubled their votes and managed to become the third party with 71 seats in the parliament (from no seats in the last election I believe)!

The ruling AK party had their seats cut from 363 to 340.

I doubt these results will change the general loss of interest and will to join the EU by the Turkish public, especially when you consider other main news of the day showing the Turkish lira gaining more value against the dollar, Tourism levels reaching new record high, interest rates falling further...etc

Ironically, one of the main car manufacturers in Turkey TOFAS has given their workers 3 weeks holidays and closed the factory for maintenance! I wonder if any car manufacturers in EU could afford the same?

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Bir & BigOz,

Your answers are in line with the reality, however, when you consider the amount of street protests that took place over the last couple of months, you would have thought the house would have caved in on the AK party. As it turns out, they didn't do too badly.

As for Cyprus, I was putting my hopes more on the next one to two future elections where the AK Party will build momentum with the ever growing "religious groups" from the country side entering the mainstream economic and living standards long enjoyed by others, plus those who still see the EU as their ultimate goal for better Turkey and it's citizens. This is when I believe the Nationalist and the Military's influence in the Turkish Politics will be reduced, if the AK Party maintain their present course.

BigOz, haven't you heard, that the US Dollar is in the toilet at the moment, therefore all the countries are seeing their currencies appreciate, much to their dislike, because it will hurt their exports, but it does make buying petrol a little cheaper despite the high oil prices !!. This is George Bush's grand idea to devalue the Dollar as to increase US exports and in return, reduce the Trade Deficit.

A trick he has learned from the Chinese that he always complains about their currency being too weak.

Turkey can enjoy all the success they can bring about themselves, and they need to do it, to even have a chance to enter the EU, but I believe the appetite will get even greater for economic success for the Turks in the near future, and that will come from the EU boost. It will be this economic success hunger that will be demanded by the Turks, that will finally help solve the Cyprus Problem.

[miltiades]

Murataga , my views are very well documented on this forum therefore I will just react to the following part of your post >

""""""I am sorry to bust your bubble but: the Turkish Cypriot nation exists in Cyprus just as the Greek Cypriot one. Denying them, violating their human rights (basically security and self-governance in a seperate zone with equal political status) and oppressing them is only going to make things worse and delay the inevitable outcome that they will one day get their rights in Cyprus.""""
Denying the 200 thousand Cypriots their right to their ancestral homes is not a violation of their human rights ?
There is and never has been a separated T/c nation on this island , two communities existed and for years lived peacefully with each other. The "nation " that you refer to is an illegal entity unrecognised the world over.Turkey is occupying this part of Cyprus.These are irrefutable facts.

No, I am afraid you are not correct. Turkey makes up for the military power that we can not on our own. This has been prooven to be necessary given the hostilities directed at us in the past and still going on. You arguing about this is same as arguing about the right of the TCs to live in security. You can kick and scream all you want: the Turkish Cypriot Nation exists and their existence is recognized by the whole world. It is nice for you to recognize though that the GCs are nothing more than ONE of the TWO communities. Soon they will be treated as such too...

Murataga , you are getting your facts a little mixed up I'm afraid. No one is denying the existence of the Turkish Cypriot community ,or indeed the existence of any other community in Cyprus. What is not only disputed but rejected outright is that there are twio nations in Cyprus. That is not so , the UN says so , The EU says so and so does the rest of the world. Common sense should tell you that if the "trnc" was a legitimate "nation" surely it would by now be recognised even by one single nation on this planet. Your nation is the same as mine and it is called Cyprus , not Greek Cyprus and not Turkish Cyprus.