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Cyprus Betrayal

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Postby humanist » Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:13 am

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4 to 1 is majority
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Postby humanist » Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:19 am

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Just proved how real our isoaltion is and serves as another nail in the coffin of compromise and unification keep up the good work.


VP no one sad that your isolation is not real at all. It is very real. That is why it is important for you leader to begin discussions for UNIFICATION to end the Isolation and for the refugees to return to their properties.

Have you thought that perhaps your intransigence for partition is the key to your isolation?
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Postby DT. » Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:26 am

Bananiot wrote:GR, if a TC cites let's say Lord whatshisname, just like Hitchens was cited, what good would it do if our cause is to be nice to each other and try to save Cyprus?


Sorry guys but this hitchens business has gone way over my head....what we talking about?
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:19 am

mrfromng wrote:Good morning Kikapu,

In almost all your posts you praise the South and are encouraging TCs to reunite. Not only that but you kick the shit out of the TRNC.

That to me is a clear indication that you do indeed trust them and believe they have the best interest of the TCs at heart. But of course the reality is the minute we surrender ourselves to the RoC we will be worst off then we were in the sixties.


mrfromng,

with all due respect you don't know what you are talking about.YOUR RIGHTS AND YOUR POWER is in the 1960 ROC constitution. You do not know how much power you abandoned in that. Please go to my topic about the 1960 constitution and read some things I wrote.

The TCs are victims of spread lies and FAULTY claims, and emotional drawbacks.
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Postby pantheman » Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:45 am

Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:A very one sided view of things...not worth the paper its written on and subscribes to the GC propaganda machine which has had the attention of the internationla media monopolized for the best part of 30 years. Not so anymore other nations are now listening to our side of the story and incidents like the football match saga will high light the injustice of the isolation imposed on a people who have always wanted to live in peace without GC dominance.


As i said before had you wanted to play football and football was the only thing on your agenda then a small fax to the CFA with 2 lines saying we're playing Luton would have sufficed. Since football was not what was on the agenda but instead another Talat brainwave for world recognition of his turkish state then I believe you are the side that has been dishonest here. We've acted exactly as we've said we would...no surpises there. What makes my stomach turn is when all these TC's stood up and started crying abouth their human rights being trampled on by the GC's. Apart from the obvious of whose rights are being trampled on right now being the anniversary and everything I would remind them that if they wanted to watch football then they can complain to Talat for not sending a 2 lined fax to the CFA which is the member of FIFA and UEFA for this island.


Man you guys have problems with the number of flies that come to the north let alone accept a 2 line request to play football..and why should we have get your permission? you are not our elected leaders and you do not represent us. The world has once again seen for themselves our isolation keep up the good work.


This is just typical of people like you VP, you want us to get YOUR permission to cross over to the north by showing passports in our own country. It is you who are the illegals here and don't you forget it. This is the reason for all the shit you are facing. Now surely even you can understand that much.

So please stop playing the i am the victim card here, it is within your own power to do something about this whole sorry arse mess.
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Postby pantheman » Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:49 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Strahd wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:GC dominace is only a figment of your imagination, re parea :) :) :wink:



4 to 1 thats domination.


4 to 1 is majority


With the chequered past of the 4 we need safeguards if we are ever going to attempt to live together.


This argument has run out of steam mate. The past is the past, just compare what you are asking against all other countries in the world. Just tell me what special safegaurds there are of the asians in the UK, or the Turks in germany, or the ....... Those people all live under the same laws and have the same protection as anyone else within that country. What is it exactly you want, and armed body gaurd per house hold ???? Come on, this is just the most stupidest arguement going now.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:10 pm

pantheman wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Strahd wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:GC dominace is only a figment of your imagination, re parea :) :) :wink:



4 to 1 thats domination.


4 to 1 is majority


With the chequered past of the 4 we need safeguards if we are ever going to attempt to live together.


This argument has run out of steam mate. The past is the past, just compare what you are asking against all other countries in the world. Just tell me what special safegaurds there are of the asians in the UK, or the Turks in germany, or the ....... Those people all live under the same laws and have the same protection as anyone else within that country. What is it exactly you want, and armed body gaurd per house hold ???? Come on, this is just the most stupidest arguement going now.


Now we get to the crux of the matter and why you have difficulty comprehending the TCs position..we are not the asians in the UK or the Turks in Germany we are the Serbians in the ex Serbia and Montenegro or the Germans in Switzerland..do you understand the difference? We have more rights than the minorities you refer to and it is these rights that we will fight to then end to defend. If this was not the case then our vote in the referendum would not count for anything or called upon. If a solution is to agreed BOTH SIDES have to agree you cannot do this on your own.

We are not just any other country we have a unique past which has brought us to where we are today, without safeguards our future "together" will not be established or developed, the sooner you realize tthis the sooner you will move forward.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:12 pm

humanist wrote:Strahd
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Have you explained this to the EU....didnt you guys have some sort of veto?
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Postby MR-from-NG » Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:12 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
mrfromng wrote:Good morning Kikapu,

In almost all your posts you praise the South and are encouraging TCs to reunite. Not only that but you kick the shit out of the TRNC.

That to me is a clear indication that you do indeed trust them and believe they have the best interest of the TCs at heart. But of course the reality is the minute we surrender ourselves to the RoC we will be worst off then we were in the sixties.


mrfromng,

with all due respect you don't know what you are talking about.YOUR RIGHTS AND YOUR POWER is in the 1960 ROC constitution. You do not know how much power you abandoned in that. Please go to my topic about the 1960 constitution and read some things I wrote.

The TCs are victims of spread lies and FAULTY claims, and emotional drawbacks.


Are you serious Pyrp?

Rights and power? We abandoned? The constitution was put through the shredder the minute after being printed. You had no intentions of sharing power or jack shit with us.

My god you guys are really living in denial. Imagine an abusive husband defending himself by reminding everybody of his wedding vows. He kicks the shit out of his wife, screws around and doesn't show a penny to the woman and then beats her up even more yelling "bitch have you forgotten my wedding vows". Yeah good one Pyrp. I'll see you at the divorce court.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:20 pm

pantheman wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:A very one sided view of things...not worth the paper its written on and subscribes to the GC propaganda machine which has had the attention of the internationla media monopolized for the best part of 30 years. Not so anymore other nations are now listening to our side of the story and incidents like the football match saga will high light the injustice of the isolation imposed on a people who have always wanted to live in peace without GC dominance.


As i said before had you wanted to play football and football was the only thing on your agenda then a small fax to the CFA with 2 lines saying we're playing Luton would have sufficed. Since football was not what was on the agenda but instead another Talat brainwave for world recognition of his turkish state then I believe you are the side that has been dishonest here. We've acted exactly as we've said we would...no surpises there. What makes my stomach turn is when all these TC's stood up and started crying abouth their human rights being trampled on by the GC's. Apart from the obvious of whose rights are being trampled on right now being the anniversary and everything I would remind them that if they wanted to watch football then they can complain to Talat for not sending a 2 lined fax to the CFA which is the member of FIFA and UEFA for this island.


Man you guys have problems with the number of flies that come to the north let alone accept a 2 line request to play football..and why should we have get your permission? you are not our elected leaders and you do not represent us. The world has once again seen for themselves our isolation keep up the good work.


This is just typical of people like you VP, you want us to get YOUR permission to cross over to the north by showing passports in our own country. It is you who are the illegals here and don't you forget it. This is the reason for all the shit you are facing. Now surely even you can understand that much.

So please stop playing the i am the victim card here, it is within your own power to do something about this whole sorry arse mess.


As long as your side remains intrangient we will support and promote the TRNC on every platform, we are used to this sort of incident but now more than ever it brings home exactly how we are isolated and who are the ones keeping us there, time will work in our favor and the world will come to the right conclusion that we do not deserve to be isolated the EU are a very good indiciation of this ackonwledging the imbalance, when they corner you on certain points they will force your hand to accept compromise in order to bring TCs out of isolation, you mark my words within 10 years TCs will be brough out of isoaltion and the TRNC will still be in place.
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