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[Viewpoint]

GC dominace is only a figment of your imagination, re parea

4 to 1 thats domination.

4 to 1 is majority

With the chequered past of the 4 we need safeguards if we are ever going to attempt to live together.

[aapapa]

A very one sided view of things...not worth the paper its written on and subscribes to the GC propaganda machine which has had the attention of the internationla media monopolized for the best part of 30 years. Not so anymore other nations are now listening to our side of the story and incidents like the football match saga will high light the injustice of the isolation imposed on a people who have always wanted to live in peace without GC dominance.

As i said before had you wanted to play football and football was the only thing on your agenda then a small fax to the CFA with 2 lines saying we're playing Luton would have sufficed. Since football was not what was on the agenda but instead another Talat brainwave for world recognition of his turkish state then I believe you are the side that has been dishonest here. We've acted exactly as we've said we would...no surpises there. What makes my stomach turn is when all these TC's stood up and started crying abouth their human rights being trampled on by the GC's. Apart from the obvious of whose rights are being trampled on right now being the anniversary and everything I would remind them that if they wanted to watch football then they can complain to Talat for not sending a 2 lined fax to the CFA which is the member of FIFA and UEFA for this island.

Man you guys have problems with the number of flies that come to the north let alone accept a 2 line request to play football..and why should we have get your permission? you are not our elected leaders and you do not represent us. The world has once again seen for themselves our isolation keep up the good work.

Of course we are not your elected leaders but there again you do not have an internationally accepted Football Association. Like it or not the Cyprus FA is internationaly accepted. They rightly saw this match as a violation to their internationaly accepted terms of reference and complained to the English FA and UEFA as is their right. It was those two bodies that warned Luton Town that they were breaking the rules. Luton Town in their wisdom and obviously in the fear of sanctions from the English FA and UEFA, decided to decline. You do realise that if you have a wish to join International bodies you must learn to abide by their rules. Not pick and choose as you please.

[DT.]

A very one sided view of things...not worth the paper its written on and subscribes to the GC propaganda machine which has had the attention of the internationla media monopolized for the best part of 30 years. Not so anymore other nations are now listening to our side of the story and incidents like the football match saga will high light the injustice of the isolation imposed on a people who have always wanted to live in peace without GC dominance.

As i said before had you wanted to play football and football was the only thing on your agenda then a small fax to the CFA with 2 lines saying we're playing Luton would have sufficed. Since football was not what was on the agenda but instead another Talat brainwave for world recognition of his turkish state then I believe you are the side that has been dishonest here. We've acted exactly as we've said we would...no surpises there. What makes my stomach turn is when all these TC's stood up and started crying abouth their human rights being trampled on by the GC's. Apart from the obvious of whose rights are being trampled on right now being the anniversary and everything I would remind them that if they wanted to watch football then they can complain to Talat for not sending a 2 lined fax to the CFA which is the member of FIFA and UEFA for this island.

Man you guys have problems with the number of flies that come to the north let alone accept a 2 line request to play football..and why should we have get your permission? you are not our elected leaders and you do not represent us. The world has once again seen for themselves our isolation keep up the good work.

For your first question this has been confirmed by the president of the cfa. His exact words were...2 lines on a fax thats all it would have took.

Regarding your second question Like it or not VP there is only one member of UEFA and FIFA on this island and thats the cfa. A bit like the UN and the EU where again there is only ONE member of those organisations we have the same with football. Its an easy format to follow i believe.

Now whether you choose to take part in these organsations before a final solution is found to the problem is up to you. The CFA has told Cetinkaya many times that they can re-join the cfa championship and be eligible for european games (if they're good enough). They would also take part in the dcision making of the cfa since it is made up of representatives of each team.

The choice is yours, the other choice is hard to understand. WHy insist on a fake FA which is member NOWHERE apart from some Gizmo or Wizmo or whatever you call it federation. If its political points you wanna score then stop feeding lies to your people telling them they're isolated when they have a choice not to be.

[Viewpoint]

DT. & aapapa the whole incident proved to the world once again how isolated we really are and how the GCs continue to pursue policies that will never pay dividends by stopping even a friendly football match. Do you realize that we would rather not play the match than ask a GC body for permission that does not represent us in any shape or form. 33 years and you still feel that by using these tactics you can achieve unification then you really have to rethink things as you have made no progress and are unlikely to do so in the foreseable future. Every incident makes us more determined to get the TRNC recogniized, you tried to get our folk dancers thrown out of the Wales show but they told you to go take a hike and the TRNC flag was put on a massive screen and our children sang and danced amongst other countries just like it should be. These will increase and gradually you will loose your control as countires will get fed up with your lack of desire for resolving the problem and constant demand for exclusion of TCs from every international platform.

[growuptcs]

VP, either stop complaining about the bumps in the road, or just trade in your donkey. Stop acting so victim, my (I'm going to keep your stolen land)friend.

[Pyrpolizer]

Don't worry Hose Carerass recognizes your money, he will soon come and sing for you.




























Keep spending. It's like advertisement. You may get a few clients in the end. But you will never get your moneys worth.

[Pyrpolizer]

Btw if Centinkaya doesn't recognise the CFA why doesn't it cancel its membership? And why is it using that MEMBERSHIP as a way to trick foreign teams to play with it?

[DT.]

DT. & aapapa the whole incident proved to the world once again how isolated we really are and how the GCs continue to pursue policies that will never pay dividends by stopping even a friendly football match. Do you realize that we would rather not play the match than ask a GC body for permission that does not represent us in any shape or form. 33 years and you still feel that by using these tactics you can achieve unification then you really have to rethink things as you have made no progress and are unlikely to do so in the foreseable future. Every incident makes us more determined to get the TRNC recogniized, you tried to get our folk dancers thrown out of the Wales show but they told you to go take a hike and the TRNC flag was put on a massive screen and our children sang and danced amongst other countries just like it should be. These will increase and gradually you will loose your control as countires will get fed up with your lack of desire for resolving the problem and constant demand for exclusion of TCs from every international platform.

can you understand its not a matter of choice? You do not belong to FIFA and subsequently not Uefa. This has nothing to do with tactics, the entire world is telling you that what you are doing is illegal and you still insist on blaming the GC's. How can a football club have a football game with a european club when the said football team does not belong to a football association that is a member of FIFA????? I really don;t understand how this could go any other way.

[Bananiot]

Hitchens was for many years married to one of Dr Meleagros's daughter. I believe the family ditched him and recently I heard a lot of criticism against him from his own brother. Of course this may not have any bearing on what he writes. I thought I'll let you know.

[Get Real!]

DT. & aapapa the whole incident proved to the world once again how isolated we really are and how the GCs continue to pursue policies that will never pay dividends by stopping even a friendly football match. Do you realize that we would rather not play the match than ask a GC body for permission that does not represent us in any shape or form. 33 years and you still feel that by using these tactics you can achieve unification then you really have to rethink things as you have made no progress and are unlikely to do so in the foreseable future. Every incident makes us more determined to get the TRNC recogniized, you tried to get our folk dancers thrown out of the Wales show but they told you to go take a hike and the TRNC flag was put on a massive screen and our children sang and danced amongst other countries just like it should be. These will increase and gradually you will loose your control as countires will get fed up with your lack of desire for resolving the problem and constant demand for exclusion of TCs from every international platform.

VP has obviously convinced himself that the “TRNC” is a country and there’s nothing anyone can say that will change his mind so stop wasting your breaths everyone. My only query is if VP is so convinced that they are independent and so close to “recognition” what’s he doing on this forum?

What exactly do you want from us VP because from our “goodwill” you’re not getting jack-shit if you haven’t already realized and all you can expect from us in the future is even more pressure and a very likely possibility of a military confrontation when the time is right for the RoC.

The Greek Cypriots DO NOT accept this “TRNC” crap so don’t get too comfortable there because you DO NOT have the permission of the indigenous people of Cyprus to “own” any contiguous part of this island and form any kind of independent entity that you aim.

So quit making laughable complaints like “we are embargoed” because you just look stupid and we don’t want to hear anymore of your absurdities; we’ve had a gutful already. Any problems your people may be experiencing today are brought about by your leaders so go and complain to them not us.