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Postby magikthrill » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:03 pm

oh and i just reazlied your quotes on "democratic" greece. i don't appreciate your sarcasm. unless you're being sarcastic in terms of claiming that a kingdom is not a democracy which i am fine with but i doubt you meant it in that way.
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Postby insan » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:07 pm

the kingdom of Greece never attempted to use force to bring the Enosis into force.


They forced TCs to bring Enosis into force because until 1968 Makarios too was a pro-Enosis. Afterwards he seemingly changed his mind with the fear of turkish intervention but kept insisting on "majority-rule" until his death.
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Postby magikthrill » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:11 pm

insan wrote:
the kingdom of Greece never attempted to use force to bring the Enosis into force.


They forced TCs to bring Enosis into force because until 1968 Makarios too was a pro-Enosis. Afterwards he seemingly changed his mind with the fear of turkish intervention but kept insisting on "majority-rule" until his death.


Im guessing you meant GCs. Either way they never used force.

Secondly, theres nothing wrong with insisting on "majority-rule." As a decendant of ancient Greeks who brought about democracy its logical to think that way.

What's wrong is mistreating certain citizens because they are of a different ethnicity.
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Postby insan » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:11 pm

Politicians don't write articles.


I thought there were some like Tassos.
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Postby insan » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:12 pm

And Eleni Mavrou... Christofias... etc..
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Postby -mikkie2- » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:13 pm

Insan,

You keep insisting that the invasion was a peace operation. Why? I don't care how much stuff you have to say about 'hellens' and 'enosists' etc. The actions of these idiots was a pretext for Turkey to invade, not to save the TC's but to fulfill her ambition as a regional military power.

I have said to you that the 1st invasion was classed as a legitimate action by many people. What followed after was a full scale invasion with the consequence of ethnically cleansing cyprus into two regions. Why can't you accept this?

Even today the Turks treat us vindictively. LOOK AT THE DISGRACEFULL ACTIONS OF YOUR LEADERSHIP AND TURKEY REGARDING THE FATE OF THE MISSING.
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Postby magikthrill » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:17 pm

-mikkie2- wrote:
Even today the Turks treat us vindictively. LOOK AT THE DISGRACEFULL ACTIONS OF YOUR LEADERSHIP AND TURKEY REGARDING THE FATE OF THE MISSING.


And also the last place vote they gave Cyprus in Eurovision :lol:
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Postby insan » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:23 pm

Insan,

You keep insisting that the invasion was a peace operation. Why?


Because it was a peace operation.

I don't care how much stuff you have to say about 'hellens' and 'enosists' etc. The actions of these idiots was a pretext for Turkey to invade, not to save the TC's but to fulfill her ambition as a regional military power.


Hellenic nationalists served the interests of Turkey? Ridiculous and completely non-persuasive. It is obvious to me that their aim was Enosis; serving the Greeks and GCs multi-purposed interests. If they have managed to achieve Enosis; I'm sure all of the GCs will proud and applaud of them, including you.

I have said to you that the 1st invasion was classed as a legitimate action by many people. What followed after was a full scale invasion with the consequence of ethnically cleansing cyprus into two regions. Why can't you accept this?


And times and times again I've put forward the evidences that justified the second phase of the intervention. It's not my problem not knowing the full details of the Turkish intervention.

Even today the Turks treat us vindictively. LOOK AT THE DISGRACEFULL ACTIONS OF YOUR LEADERSHIP AND TURKEY REGARDING THE FATE OF THE MISSING.


Until 1995 Greece's and GCs stance was same. Do you also have something to say about your responsibility concerning the missings?
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Postby -mikkie2- » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:29 pm

Insan,

What is the point of discussing anything when you refuse to accept certain things?

The fate of the TC missing has been pretty much resolved. The RoC has given you the areas where these people are burried. WHY DOES TURKEY NOT DO THE SAME? WHY? WHY? WHY? Why do you try to excuse these pathetic actions? Why do the Turks build on top of mass graves? Why are suspected areas that may contain mass graves designated as military zones? WHY?WHY?WHY?
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Postby insan » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:32 pm

Insan,

What is the point of discussing anything when you refuse to accept certain things?


It's you that refusing to accept the ceratin things not me.

The fate of the TC missing has been pretty much resolved. The RoC has given you the areas where these people are burried. WHY DOES TURKEY NOT DO THE SAME? WHY? WHY? WHY? Why do you try to excuse these pathetic actions? Why do the Turks build on top of mass graves? Why are suspected areas that may contain mass graves designated as military zones? WHY?WHY?WHY?



A few weeks ago, I've clearly put forward my opinions concerning this issue. So sorry, I won't repeat it over and over again!
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