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[Greek Cypriot]

THE MAJORITY of Greek Cypriots would vote against UN Secretary-general Kofi Annan’s plan for a Cyprus settlement as it stands, according to the results of a poll revealed by SIGMA television last night.

The poll was conducted on the eve of the latest crucial round of negotiations between the two sides. CBS Company questioned 800 Greek Cypriots over 18 throughout the island by phone between February 16 and 18.

Asked how they would cast their vote if there were a referendum today on the Annan plan as it stands, without major changes, the majority said they would reject it. According to Sigma, the poll revealed that 61 per cent of those asked said they would reject the plan today, while 27 per cent would vote for it; 12 per cent did not answer.

The results highlight fears that the process towards a final solution to the Cyprus problem could reach the final stages of referendum, as outlined by Annan, where the people have final say and collapse after its rejection.

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[Greek Cypriot]

Here is a link for all the results of the poll (in Greek)

http://www.simerini.com/nqcontent.cfm?a_id=130368

[metecyp]

I'm not sure if any side will say "No" to Annan plan, but the side who says "No" will lose big time and the dynamics of Cyprus problem will change significantly.

[Greek Cypriot]

I don't think our side can loose anything more than what we lost already.

The only thing is that if we say no and you say yes, Turkey might get a date for EU (if Greece and Cyprus do not veto for it, and we will probably not veto) which is the reason why Turkey changed its position in the first place.

I will tell you again: Denctash serves the Turkish interests not yours. He is not compromising intentionally, he doesn't want to make the plan functional so the result will be the one that he knows that we will not accept. Turkey will get its date and its troops can stay here serving all of its other interests, we will move in the EU alone, and Denctash will keep his kingdom. He probably hopes that after we enter the EU many true TC will leave using Republic of Cyprus documents, he will bring more settlers, and he will stay there until he dies. (and then his son can take his place).

Change him and put Talad or somebody else that will trully want to find a solution. This way Talad and Papadopoulos can agree the same way me and you can agree and both GC and TC can vote YES. With Denctash there nothing good can come out for any of us.

[Greek Cypriot]

On a side note, I am afraid that even if it was Talad instead of Denctash, if Talad was not following Ankaras directions to the letter he would be shot dead before signing any agreements.

[PEACE]

THE MAJORITY of Greek Cypriots would vote against UN Secretary-general Kofi Annan’s plan for a Cyprus settlement as it stands, according to the results of a poll revealed by SIGMA television last night.

We can't say 800 people "majority"! Total population is 1000 times bigger of this number ! 800 people is nothing i think!

Also i heard Simerini did this poll ! In the news its saying that Simerini is against Annan Plan ! So,
Here newspaper "Volkan" is so against Annan Plan ! If it does a poll in North among 800 peope i give you quarantee that %99 will say "NO."

It depends on who did the poll and who joined to the poll! Generally polls don't show real but they show the idea of who did the poll !

I will tell you again: Denctash serves the Turkish interests not yours

I know my friend !You don't need to say this.We identified him at last !


Denktas,Talat or another !In this way its not important! If they can't be agreed than Annan is going to fill all ! This time i'm sure both sides will negotate in real !This time everthing is so so different!

[Guest]

We can't say 800 people "majority"! Total population is 1000 times bigger of this number ! 800 people is nothing i think!

Also i heard Simerini did this poll ! In the news its saying that Simerini is against Annan Plan ! So,
Here newspaper "Volkan" is so against Annan Plan ! If it does a poll in North among 800 peope i give you quarantee that %99 will say "NO."

It depends on who did the poll and who joined to the poll! Generally polls don't show real but they show the idea of who did the poll !

This is how polls work. You can not question the whole population, just a sample. For Cyprus size a most reliable sample would be above 1200 people but 800 is still ok.
The CBS company did the poll, which is an independent company. Also similar polls have been done several months ago with similar results. I don't know what happens to your side, put here polls usually don't have more than 4-5% difference from the actual result.

[PEACE]

I suppose you learned something different about here now Polls ! Yes its like what i told you here !


Ok ! But still i see 800 among 800,000 is not enough ! Anyway...
We'll see the real result on 22 April ! (You know we have referendum on 21 April 2004)

[antonis]

Ok ! But still i see 800 among 800,000 is not enough.

It's statistically significant to some percentage, if the sample was taken uniformly (unlike VOLKAN's sample!)

It is true that right now the majority of the GCs are sceptic, because the Annan plan is far away from what has been promised all these years... Plus the fact that everybody thinks that saying NO will only incur a temporary political cost for the GC community - EU membership for Cyprus is guaranteed...

[metecyp]

It is true that right now the majority of the GCs are sceptic, because the Annan plan is far away from what has been promised all these years

This is exactly the problem. G/Cs were promised all these years that all refugees would return, Turkish army would be out, T/Cs would be given minority rights, etc. and that's why it's so hard for some G/Cs to realize that no side is going to get all they want.

Similarly, in the T/C community, people were promised that TRNC would live forever, the land taken in 1974 will be forever theirs, and they wouldn't have to live with G/Cs again, and all these lies. And now, people in the north are having difficult time understanding the realities.

So Annan plan referandum is actually referandum of lies. People who believed the lies of the politicians and who still believe that these lies might actually be true in some unknown day will vote No to plan. People who are realistic and who understand that no solution will ever satisfy both sides will vote for the change.

Unless we understand that this is a great chance to reunite Cyprus then this "window" will close, and no-one knows when it will open again. And if it opens, who guarantees that the solution that will be proposed will be "better"???

Exactly! Thanks my friend, I'm glad that somebody is talking my language here! Maybe a better solution is possible but better might be too late. Who cares if a solution is better if I'm not going to live to see it? It's lives of people we're talking about here. 40 years have already been wasted with nonsense, my dad hardly experienced bicommunal life. Now I don't want to go through what he went through. I want to live in a multicultural island, not when I get 70 years old, but now!