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[PEACE]

Papas,

You have committed a mutiny and several criminal acts and sooner or later you will pay for it.

Oh we are so so sorry that we defended us to EOKA-B and Greece Junta ! We have to wait to be killed and to be ethnically cleaned without defending !

Maybe this is what you would like and what you tried to achieve over the last 40 years. You tried to have your own separate state with stolen properties, and because you failed miserably now you remembered peace and "unity".

I think tcypriot wanted to mean bicommunal RC ended in 1963!(not on paper but in real).I always know that TRNC hasn't got lawful base and i never supported this order.It violates London and Zurich Agreements ! Not we failed miserably! This order can continue if we support it ! If we are wanting it why we never do demonstrations for TRNC to make it recognized? Who can make it spoil if all of us support it ? EU? I don't think so! Don't forget it continued for 24 years.But i think this is unlawful and there is war danger still! Cos there is only cease-fire situation! Don't forget!Also i don't want to pass to other side of my country with ID card or passport.I think we have many things in common and can live in this island in peace together.Cos we are all "Cypriots".May be we are talking different language and has different religion but we are all Cypriots!All of us are the people of this island.

Republic of Cyprus is entering the EU now and I am sure many of you that until today were calling Republic of Cyprus a "Greek Cypriot Administration" and wishing its death will now come to get Republic of Cyprus documents

Yes there is people that things like that ! Like Denktas and his group!But you can't say "MANY" of us are thinking like this.

If you trully think that RC is just a "Greek Cypriot Administration", then only Greek Cypriots entered the EU. Why so many TC ask for documents of a Republic that according to you does not exist?

This must be replied by people in that thinking !

[metecyp]

Republic of Cyprus is entering the EU now and I am sure many of you that until today were calling Republic of Cyprus a "Greek Cypriot Administration" and wishing its death will now come to get Republic of Cyprus documents.

For your information, I don't have any RC documents and I don't plan to get them before a solution.

If you trully think that RC is just a "Greek Cypriot Administration", then only Greek Cypriots entered the EU. Why so many TC ask for documents of a Republic that according to you does not exist?

RC is *not* Greek Cypriot administration on paper. That's why TCs have the right to claim their identity in RC. However, and this doesn't mean that TCs accept RC as it stands today (governed only by GCs). That's exactly what needs to change in a solution.

[metecyp]

I always know that TRNC hasn't got lawful base and i never supported this order.It violates London and Zurich Agreements ! Not we failed miserably! This order can continue if we support it !

Let's not decieve ourselves here. Not many T/Cs remembered "the unlawful base" of TRNC until very recently and I believe the demonstrations you were talking about had an economic and social basis, rather than a cry for justice and human rights.

Secondly, the order in the north did fail miserably! If TRNC was recognized, if it had a well-established economy, democracy and human rights, nobody would be out in the streets demonstrating for a new order. But none of these were achieved, and the order formed in the north ceased to serve the needs of the TC community. This is the basis for the TC demonstrations.

But whatever the reason, I'm glad TCs realized that the future of Cyprus is united and I hope the same is understood by GCs as well.

[metecyp]

Maybe this is what you would like and what you tried to achieve over the last 40 years. You tried to have your own separate state with stolen properties, and because you failed miserably now you remembered peace and "unity"

It never crosses your mind that Cyprus problem is much deeper than that. You think that T/Cs woke up one day and decided to have their own state? Why don't you ever think about your side's role in this process? Why don't you think the factors that led T/Cs want a seperate state?

Yes, TRNC did fail, I'm not arguing that but if you really claim to be RC, then wouldn't you embrace TCs as your citizens, rather than shoving the mistakes of the past right in the face? What are you trying to achieve?

You talk about the stolen properties, what about the stolen representation of T/Cs in RC? What about T/C isolation from international community for all these years? Now, don't tell me that it's my fault, because I didn't choose to be in the north, but the fact is that I never watched an international soccer game in my country (among other basic things) due to mistakes of older generations from both sides. T/Cs sufferred most in Cyprus problem, not G/Cs, not Turkey and Greece.

A solution is needed for existance of T/C community, that's why we're out in the streets looking for a partner to build peace with. We learned from our mistakes, the question is did you learn from yours?

[Guest]

In my last post I was replying to tcypriot that said that RC is dead etc, so the tone was analogues.

This order can continue if we support it ! If we are wanting it why we never do demonstrations for TRNC to make it recognized? Who can make it spoil if all of us support it ? EU? I don't think so! Don't forget it continued for 24 years.

It can continue like it is now. Demonstrations will not make "TRNC" recognized.

Metecyp,
I know that Cyprus problem is deep. The interest of foreigners on one hand and the easily misled Cypriots on the other, coused a lot of problems.

But people like tcypriot on one hand will try to get "TRNC" recognized, calling us "Greek Cypriot Administration" etc. , and on the other hand they come and accuse us that RC doesn't give them all their rights etc. I think these two actions are contradicting each other and are not compatible.

In any case this is not the problem. The problem is how we will create a better future. GC did a lot of compromises over the last years because we trully wanted a solution. Your side did no compromises, and how could you do any, since Denctash aim was an independent state and not reunification. He simply had no motive to do any compromises.

It might sound good to you that due to the power of Turkey the plan for the solution gives so much to a minority. But what good will be for you if all these remain just a plan and never reality?
For a plan to become reality you have to see our side also. To understand the huge compromises we made all these years, to accept that we are the majority, and to work for a plan that will be good for both of us.

[Papas]

Oh we are so so sorry that we defended us to EOKA-B and Greece Junta ! We have to wait to be killed and to be ethnically cleaned without defending !

Oh really? You had TNT with similar actions against Greek Cypriots.
This is why I do not trust you and I can not accept a plan that will put our future in your hands. Because you will always find an excuse even for the most disgusting and criminal acts. We do not defend EOKA-B, but you keep defending the invasion and the illegal occupation. Right?

[PEACE]

Oh really? You had TNT with similar actions against Greek Cypriots.

I know that TMT is established for defending us to EOKA-B!

We do not defend EOKA-B, but you keep defending the invasion and the illegal occupation. Right?

Of course no.We just want a solution in Annan Plan base.