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[Southerner]

Southerner, how long will your stay be in Cyprus ?, I think I will be in Europe through the latter part of November and back in Cyprus mid December, (Subject to any alterations) at a moment's notice.

12th to 25th

[Eliko]

Southerner, how long will your stay be in Cyprus ?, I think I will be in Europe through the latter part of November and back in Cyprus mid December, (Subject to any alterations) at a moment's notice.

12th to 25th

Looks like that'll be a close one mate, as they say in Cyprus, "I will let you know !"

[Eliko]

Southerner, GorillaGal, nice communicating with you but must retire now, it's 1.30 am, time for bed.

[miltiades]

Southerner, I did NOT blame the West for the living standards of the lower classes, we all know of the caste system and I disagree with it.

it seems like you disagree with alot, and yet don't wnat anything done about it because that's the way it is, that is thier culture, no one else should mess with whoever "them" is at the momnet. just an observation, not an attack, dear eliko.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that I wouldn't want anything done to rectify the problems WE perceive, I believe we should first attend to our own faults before instructing others.

Also, I do not think military intervention is the correct method to secure changes, particularly when dealing with cultures far older than our own.

Cannibalism I believe is one of the oldest cultures !!!
Here you go again , half baked philosophical nonsense .

[Eliko]

miltiades, thank you for your usual insult, I was beginning to worry about you since I have heard nothing from you since I PM'd my congratulations on the attainment of your professorship.

I do believe you are correct in respect of cannibalism, you failed to mention human sacrifice in tandem with such practices and I must say I would not agree with either, (whether as a participant OR the object of such).

I think cannibalism was found to be still in practice in Papua New Guinea quite recently, it has been discouraged by certain (very brave) individuals, though it possibly IS still a problem in some areas.

I do not think the discouragement was effected by 'Force of Arms', rather by the influence of those who explained and suggested alternatives (the use of animals) in order to satisfy their primitive beliefs, the cannibals were raised in the traditions handed down from their ancestors, they did not KNOW better, they DO now, the issue is resolved through education. PROPER WAY.

WE, on the other hand, supposedly have a very high regard for the sanctity of human life, YET, we develop more and more methods to ensure it's obliteration when it suits our purposes, we force our ideas on others and are surprised when they do not adopt those ideas (because they see them as inferior to their own), it may well be that they are wrong, if so they should be educated, not ridiculed, they maybe just don't know.

You did not mention 'Self Sacrifice' which surprises me since the actions of the 'Suicide Bombers' very often become dominant in your posts, I, like you, do not agree with it and wish it were not happening as I am sure you do, the difference between us is clear, YOU dismiss the actions out of hand, I try to understand the reasons behind such awful actions.

I respectfully suggest that the person with knowledge of WHY these events take place is better equipped to deal with the problem than he who just hurls abuse at it, would you not agree Sir ?.

There you are now, nicely decorated in case you take the time to READ each section.

[denizaksulu]

[quote="Eliko"]Southerner, I did NOT blame the West for the living standards of the lower classes, we all know of the caste system and I disagree with it.

As to the introduction of British laws, it is a pity they did not outlaw the barbaric practice of disposing of baby girls.

There can be no doubt that the British increased their wealth enormously during the period of their occupation, when they were finally faced with the prospect of withdrawal, (which they would have got wind of years before), they made sure that the country would be left in turmoil and divided, (a well rehearsed tactic) before such withdrawal.

The infrastructure was well and truly paid for by the nation from the resources taken from it, you may be sure of that.

As to the 'Carpet Bombing', it is a well known fact that the 'Shock and Awe' bombardment was carried out from high altitude, this was done to obviate the possibility of the Iraqi's defending themselves, (Cowardly?).

Since you state that the B52s DO use this altitude to 'Carpet Bomb', are you suggesting that they may have done so?.

If corruption exists in present day India, in that money and aid is being distributed in such a manner that it is likely to be mis-used, surely the contributors of such should ensure that an effective system be put in place to prevent such mis-use.

In closure, the great Indian warrior 'Arjuna', on viewing the slaughter of thousands on the battlefield, wept and said, "This is not a victory, it is a disgrace to my nation" what a pity we have learned nothing from that time to this in terms of warfare.

Thank you for your response. [/quote]

Hi Eliko, I am with you on this thread. One comment you made reminds me of a Turkishsong of my younger days, ".....Silah icad olundu, mertlik bozuldu".

Roughly translated: "......the gun has been invented and 'valour' (personal bravery) is no longer". I first remembered this line when the USS New Jersey was bombarding the Palestinian camps in the Lebanon in 1984. Thats life.
Regards
DA

[denizaksulu]

[quote="Southerner"][quote="GorillaGal"][quote="Southerner"][quote="GorillaGal"][quote="paliometoxo"]doesent it also happen in china the murdering of the baby girls?

if i had a baby gir id be the happiest guya live not want to kill her :S[/quote]

yes, china murders babies too, and i'm with you paliometoxo---i would love to have a baby girl or two....[/quote]

We already had two boys, my Wife went into labour for our third baby and produced twins (Girl and Boy) two weeks premature 6lb 11.5 ozs each. At 28 she's still my little girl.[/quote]

that is cool, southerner. was twins a total suprise in the deliver room, or did you know about this earlier in the pregnancy?[/quote]Total surprise, one big baby they told us, our daughter was born followed by our third son 17 mins later. we also have a grandaughter 7 and two grandsons ages 4 & 5.[/quote]

I think we ought to begin a new thread, solely for us granddads and grannys. Are there any grannys' on the forum?

Enjoy your grandchildren Southerner
Regards
DA

[Eliko]

denizaksulu, thank you for your support, God knows I am in need of it sometimes.

[Southerner]

I first remembered this line when the USS New Jersey was bombarding the Palestinian camps in the Lebanon in 1984. Thats life. Regards DA

They put up the wrong video on the news yesterday, they said that the Lebanese army was shelling a Palestinian refugee camp, what they showed was a large city being bombarded, there were multi storey buildings, street lights, power cables, pavements, surfaced roads, shops etc etc.

[GorillaGal]

unfortunately, some people don't hear you unless you have a gun to thier head.

A 'Gun to the head' merely ensures that you have the person's undivided attention, it does not mean that they are obliged to take note, THAT is the philosophy of a bully, don't you think ?.

i think a gun to the head could be a bully, but it also could be civilization. if we were not heald responsable of our actions by a government, crime could be rampant. it is the fear of having that "gun to your head" sometimes that keeps people in line and obeying the law.