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Postby Southerner » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:52 pm

Eliko wrote:GorillaGal, a wasted life is a wasted life, regardless of the circumstances.
The issue here is to do with the Indian culture and how to eradicate what we believe to be a problem.
Their perceptions are different to ours, they have been taught to place a lesser value on life than we have.
No good can come of our condemnation of THEIR culture, while they are sceptical of OURS.
If we can present ourselves in a manner which convinces them that OUR culture is superior, THEY will take note of the fact and emulate ours.
Unfortunately, WE of the West do not impress them in such a way and thus WE fail because of that fact. :wink:

I totaly agree with GorillaGal 100%. The old get out excuse of "it's their culture" just doesn't wash, the word culture means develope, cultivate, intellectual developement, what is intellectual about the everyday mistreatment of the female sex, these are people who sit at the United Nations claiming to be civilised.
An act of barbarism against your wife, your unborn child is nothing to do with culture, people who use the constant get out clause "it's their culture" are just as guilty as the barbarous perpetrators
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Postby paliometoxo » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:56 pm

well said southerner. shame it still happens
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Postby hunnibee » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:20 pm

This happens in the UK too...not as extreme..but in some parts of England finding out the sex of the baby is banned because of the Indians doing the same thing in the UK. Thankfully the UK have more power to stop this sort of thing happing there....Its a shame I heard about it when I was having my scan for my little girl (now 4) I could never imagine feeling such feelings simply because she is a GIRL! Now I have a boy too! I've made my contribution to society for both sides...BUT think some women for some reason only ever conceive one sex I know a woman with 6 girls...all for trying to get a boy!!! In India this would be 6 DEATHS....not 6 beautiful polite beings
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Postby paliometoxo » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:25 pm

in the uk also? na zisoun ( your children ) how do you say na zisoun in english?

could never imagine doing such a thing because of the sex how can you kill or sell your own flesh and blood
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Postby Eliko » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:03 pm

Southerner wrote:
Eliko wrote:GorillaGal, a wasted life is a wasted life, regardless of the circumstances.
The issue here is to do with the Indian culture and how to eradicate what we believe to be a problem.
Their perceptions are different to ours, they have been taught to place a lesser value on life than we have.
No good can come of our condemnation of THEIR culture, while they are sceptical of OURS.
If we can present ourselves in a manner which convinces them that OUR culture is superior, THEY will take note of the fact and emulate ours.
Unfortunately, WE of the West do not impress them in such a way and thus WE fail because of that fact. :wink:

I totaly agree with GorillaGal 100%. The old get out excuse of "it's their culture" just doesn't wash, the word culture means develope, cultivate, intellectual developement, what is intellectual about the everyday mistreatment of the female sex, these are people who sit at the United Nations claiming to be civilised.
An act of barbarism against your wife, your unborn child is nothing to do with culture, people who use the constant get out clause "it's their culture" are just as guilty as the barbarous perpetrators




Southerner, I think you have misconstrued my view which was made in comparison to the way we of the West value life.

The Indian people who perform the awful task of destroying their female babies, do so because they foresee hardship in the years to come.

How to eradicate what we perceive to be a problem, was the basis of my comments, it does not mean that I agree with it.

A wasted life is a wasted life, those people have been TAUGHT to place a lesser value on life than we, BUT, here's the rub, We supposedly place such a high value on life, YET, as demonstrated by the murderous attack on Iraq, we do NOT portray such value.

THAT was the point I was trying to illustrate, how can WE hope to educate THEM, when they can see the result of OUR actions and the way WE can slaughter so indiscriminately.

You can only teach by example, I certainly do NOT condone the actions of either 'culture'. :(
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Postby Eliko » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:06 pm

GorillaGal wrote:and WHO calls Americans barbarians?



This is the prompt for my comments. :(
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Postby paliometoxo » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:21 pm

if they think it will be to hard why not use protection? or birth control what makes the female worse to have then a male?
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Postby GorillaGal » Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:38 pm

eliko, i understand your point, and to a point i agree with you, but there is a big difference between acts of war and killing babies for the sake of the sex. i hope you understand that. the USA never went after children to kill them for the sake of killing them. they just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. kinda like all those people who go shopping in the market and get blown up by thier own kind.
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Postby Southerner » Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:24 am

Eliko wrote:A wasted life is a wasted life, those people have been TAUGHT to place a lesser value on life than we, BUT, here's the rub, We supposedly place such a high value on life, YET, as demonstrated by the murderous attack on Iraq, we do NOT portray such value.:(


The so called murderous attack on Iraq was an attack on the regime of a genocidal maniac, for that I make no apologies by supporting it.
Carpet bombing of civillians did not take place, people thronged the streets to welcome the coalition forces.
What really surprises me is that you never came out and condemmed the despot when he murdered millions of Muslims. If the west is guilty of anything it is that it did not finish the job in the first Gulf War, since the first and second war Saddam murdered over a million Muslims; where were you and Quamerslad during that time, who were you and him preaching to when all of that was happening? The Taleban for shooting women in the back of the head for learning to read? "It's their culture you know"
Isn't it about time you stopped blaming the west for everything Muslim fundamentalists do.
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:58 am

[quote="paliometoxo"]killing baby girls why? whats so special about males that they woul kill the girls[/quote]


Do you know what a dowry is? If you provide a bride for marriage, you HAD to provide a dowry. This is 'allegedly' for the upkeep of the bride.
No dowry, no son-in-law. It is deemed a burden to have a daughter.
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