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Postby paliometoxo » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:51 am

to anyone who wants to download the video if you join here http://javimoya.com/blog/youtube_en.php
then paste the link it allows you to download the videos from most of the vieo web sites such as youtube and google on youtube there are many videos on the war from both turks greeks and english one missing persons of cyprus was a good one interveiwing the turk president and one of him confessing it was revenge them killing us...
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Postby Natty » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:35 am

Hi TC, thanks for the video. I don't have time to watch it now, but hopefully I'll get to watch it some time this week...

I have to say though, that I would absolutely love there to be a documentary documenting the suffering of all Cypriots (Greek, Turkish, Armenian, Maronite, Latin, etc), first of all because a one sided story always presents chances to be used for propaganda purposes and we don't need anymore of that, but also because then we can say that instead of 'one side suffering this much' and 'another side suffering this much', that we Cypriots collectively suffered together during those years, show a united front, show us as one as appose to two people's, after all isn't that what we will be when (or if) true unification ever happens, one Nation?
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Postby paliometoxo » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:14 am

i went into the north once the police stopped my friend for speeding ( not sure what speed limit is over there still) but the little toy cars you guys have over there like fbi cars with the lights infront the dark blue or black fords i forget. as soon as i told him we from the south he gave us an evil look. but after a few minutes he told us next time take a taxi.. my friend was so scared she nearly hit revurse and run off i could imagine how that would of turned out if she did.

Natty:mana sou? thelw kypriakon fysika ;p nampou na kamo me ta alla dio ?:D kalamaraes jai tourjoi? no thnx
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Postby Piratis » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:41 am

turkish_cypriot, you once again choose to excuse the murder, rapes and ethnic cleansing of innocent people.

If we had your kinds of morals then we could also very easily excuse the crimes against TCs and claim that they were necessary to protect our country from those that had a plan since the 50s to divide our country and ethnically cleanse us from part of our homeland.

It can not be that your crimes against 100s of thousands of innocent people can be excused, while our crimes can not.

Murataga, once again I will have to inform you that union with Greece was in fact our right which the colonialists and you forcefully denied to us.

Here is again the resolution about decolonization which clearly states that areas that are decolonized should have the right to integrate into another state if this is what the population of the territory democratically chooses.
http://www.un.org/Depts/dpi/decolonizat ... ration.htm

So I don't know why you mention that as if it was a crime. Would it be a crime if Turkey joins the EU because there is a percentage of Turks who strongly opposes it? OR it would be a crime if Turkey is accepted in EU, the great majority of Turks also want to join the EU, but a foreign power along with a minority in Turkey (e.g. Kurds) force Turkey not to join?
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Postby bigOz » Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:03 am

Natty wrote:Hi TC, thanks for the video. I don't have time to watch it now, but hopefully I'll get to watch it some time this week...

I have to say though, that I would absolutely love there to be a documentary documenting the suffering of all Cypriots (Greek, Turkish, Armenian, Maronite, Latin, etc), first of all because a one sided story always presents chances to be used for propaganda purposes and we don't need anymore of that, but also because then we can say that instead of 'one side suffering this much' and 'another side suffering this much', that we Cypriots collectively suffered together during those years, show a united front, show us as one as appose to two people's, after all isn't that what we will be when (or if) true unification ever happens, one Nation?

The (negative) answer to your suggestion is in the next two posts after yours! :D
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Postby T_C » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:36 pm

oranos64 wrote:woo turkish_cypriot ..is nearly in tears ..sorry if i hit a raw nerve bro ...like i said i accept that both sides made mistakes and committed atrocities .....but your responce is typrical you hate to accept that both your own military carried out attrcoities on both communities when they attempted to create " control " in the new boundries ......sorry bro wake up .,.you have been brainwashed for too long ... i dont need to show you clips ..ill present two Turkish cypriots who escaped prisons and were tortured ...both interviewed by U.N IPF ..RECENTLY .. ..i will release the clips when closer to the right time to appropriate persons ...in other words someone who wants to present a balance view ,ONCE theese negotiations begin so we get a balance few ...
it seems by reading some of the responces by turkish cypriots there is blind denial ..both in examples where the past is brought up during OTTOMAN/mongol /turks invasiton or any refernce to recent attrocites ie 1996 murders on greek line by TCS ...completly over top responces by TCS
THE GCs have some honour they admit some mistakes but no the TCS they just cant say" yeah we made mistakes too" ...both the U.N and various investigative bodies have proven that both sides attacked one anthers enclaves .,.,this is accepted ,,where is the accepted by TC government ,,even papadoupolos ,,,accepts these mistakes and apologises .

i find it laughable that TCS ..deny this even where there is documented evidence that british bodies ...push the communties towards confrontation ...and equally T.C extremist took extreme measures to ignite hate by attacking and punishing neutrals ....in their own communities (burning homes ,...i have seen confessions both in british and international press) one thing for sure i have better information than most on this site .

anyway when its all said and done ...the more you deny your mistakes ,lies and bullshit ,.the more egg you will have on your face later ...only cowards avoid the truth ,......


Hmmmmm from...

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Come on mate this is just your TYPICAL Greek propaganda...we've heard it all before.

The Greeks didnt do it it was the Turks. The Greeks didnt kill Nihat Ilhans family, he did it himself. It wasnt the Greeks who killed everyone in the village it was the Turks. It wasnt Turks being dug up from graves it was Greeks... :lol:

Please post your videos or sound clips if you dont want to disclose peoples identities otherwise cut the crap, coz you know as well as I do that youre talking a LOAD OF SHIT!!!! :roll: :lol



.....you gathered I was in tears???

Yeah youre right...I was in tears....from laughter!!!!! :lol: :lol:

Anyways I dont deny anything mate, I have no reason to, I am innocent and have had no part in what has happened nor have I benefited from anyones losses. I KNOW TCs messed up...I know alot of GCs know they messed up too...but they just dont know HOW MUCH!! :wink: :lol:
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Postby oranos64 » Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:41 pm

hey helium or what ever you call your self ... the fact remains you challenged me to produce info ... i will at the right time ..as i said ... if you look at some of posts ,you will note i have better acess to info than most ...due to my work ASSIGNMENTS ...

also back track here with refernce to murders in homes ETC ...are you denying that turks killed TCS to inflame the commuinity against GC ... I CAN QUOTE DIRECT EVIDENCE FROM OTHER TCS ON THE WEB AND VIA PRINTED PRESS ...

AS I SAID BEFORE ...BOTH WERE WRONG ...TURKISH MAINLANDERS WERE PLANNING TO INVADE CYPRUS FROM 1960S ...
"I know alot of GCs know they messed up too...but they just dont know HOW MUCH!! !" PLEASE EXPAND ON THIS STATEMENT ...

sounds like you always like to get the last word in ... helium helim etc ... i always have the last laugh ...
patience for the sucker punch its a big one ...

no matter how many american advisors etc talat has ...i have the hammer ... SOON COME
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Postby DT. » Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:47 pm

starting to think about withdrawing from this forum....its all over the place.
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Postby Natty » Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:16 pm

Natty:mana sou? thelw kypriakon fysika ;p nampou na kamo me ta alla dio ? kalamaraes jai tourjoi? no thnx


:lol: Eh kalo..Kypriakon all the way! I always thought it tasted the best out of the three anyway...:wink:

(My yiayia was the one that asked me that question actually, she's a very witty lady... :) )
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Postby Natty » Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:25 pm

DT. wrote:starting to think about withdrawing from this forum....its all over the place.


Hi DT, I understand your frustration, but I hope you don't leave...Your a really good member of the forum and I enjoy reading your posts...

Let's hope you change your mind..:)
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