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[Get Real!]

Thanks Pyrp, you may have second thoughts after the above. No hard feelings.

We still love you mrfromng!

Same here GR, I hug and kiss you all

See... the guy is a bloody teddy bear!

Now where's VP gone?

Mark my WORDS and NOTE the date.
VP will be back in the forum in 26 JULY SHARP.

Hmm, 6 days into the invasion... nope can't see the correlation, I'm intrigued what's the logic Pyro?

[Pyrpolizer]

Compromise and start dialog.

Tell Papadopoulos to go home.I cant stand him,honestly.It is as if i re-live moments of the Greek Junta.I guess his name speaks volumes


I like Christofias or the other guy(Anastasiades i think) which was in favour of the Annan plan.This guy was on the news in the Greek TV everyday during the referendum period.Probably in Cyprus he was deemed a traitor or something

SN wake up and see who the remnants of Greek Junta in Greece are today. Your Karamanlis and Mitsotakis are.They are selling Greece day in day out and you are not able to even see it. Their representative in Cyprus is Anastasiades and Klerides. Those people were always working for partition in Cyprus so that Greece gets a piece and Turkey another.

[paliometoxo]

what i wanna know is our president whent on tv saying we have one last resort i dont want to use it only if we have to... and he even said sorry on tv... then a week or so later the turkish said the greek side better watch out your stepping on egg shells and like threatend us in english with a smile on his face.. i wanna know what this last resort was.. any ideas anyone?

[bigOz]

what i wanna know is our president whent on tv saying we have one last resort i dont want to use it only if we have to... and he even said sorry on tv... then a week or so later the turkish said the greek side better watch out your stepping on egg shells and like threatend us in english with a smile on his face.. i wanna know what this last resort was.. any ideas anyone?

Going on hunger-strike maybe?

[denizaksulu]

[quote="oranos64"]SO IF YOU ALL LOVE YOUR NORTH ...WHY DO YOU ALL COME OVER HERE FOR JOBS ....stay over there ..

also viewpoint ...you past is very selective ...remember it is you who invaded cyprus way back before english rule ...defeating the franco rulers and then began forcing greeks from the coasts inland so you could all have coast land homes ...also taxed our people to death ...

viewpoint ...feel free to speak about the past ..but know and accept that you are wrong what goes around comes around ..
GREY WOLVES THE WHITE TIGER IS COMING[/quote]

And who were your tax collectors. It was the the Greek Church responsibilty to collect the taxes, who robbed you and became the largest land owner in Cyprus. Why dont you ask how the Greek Church became so rich. If you were so starved to death, why did so many of you survive. The moslem population also was taxed. Some clever greeks pretended to become moslems to avoid the higher band of taxes.
Until 1571 you were all serfs of your Latin lords. The Ottomans abolished serfdom gave you land and you had to pay taxes. Whats the problem. The proble is that your church got rich by abusing its position and defrauding the Ottomans at your expense. Everybody pays taxes. Taxes are universally hated so nothing new there mate.

Regards
DA

[Pyrpolizer]

Hmm not exactly DA.

Taxes were mainly on what one produced.Christians were taxed much more. There was no justice, in fact in disputes between Christans and mouslims the mouslim was always supposed to be the right one without even a trial. A Christian was EXPECTED to be and look inferior to even the poorest mouslim. Even if a Chistian was rich he was not allowed to wear better clothes or even built a bigger house than a mouslim.

Coming back to taxes people were oblidged to either pay a minimum or lose their property.There were years that people were starving how could they even pay the minimum tax? So instead of losing their properties they were donating them to the church.

It is true that the Latins were oppressive, and people initially thought the Ottomans would save them, however the Ottomans proved worse and even violated their ethics by taking their wives and daughters no questions asked not protests accepted.
Their system ended up the church having huge lands, but on the other hand that was not the objective of the priests. They themselves were the first to pay with their head for everything. Suppose you lived in those times and you became a priest out of faith. Would your objective be to make the church rich on the expense of you losing your head???

[paliometoxo]

so what when the island re unites will the turks be part of Europe then

[denizaksulu]

[quote="Pyrpolizer"]Hmm not exactly DA.

Taxes were mainly on what one produced.Christians were taxed much more. There was no justice, in fact in disputes between Christans and mouslims the mouslim was always supposed to be the right one without even a trial. A Christian was EXPECTED to be and look inferior to even the poorest mouslim. Even if a Chistian was rich he was not allowed to wear better clothes or even built a bigger house than a mouslim.

Coming back to taxes people were oblidged to either pay a minimum or lose their property.There were years that people were starving how could they even pay the minimum tax? So instead of losing their properties they were donating them to the church.

It is true that the Latins were oppressive, and people initially thought the Ottomans would save them, however the Ottomans proved worse and even violated their ethics by taking their wives and daughters no questions asked not protests accepted.
Their system ended up the church having huge lands, but on the other hand that was not the objective of the priests. They themselves were the first to pay with their head for everything. Suppose you lived in those times and you became a priest out of faith. Would your objective be to make the church rich on the expense of you losing your head???[/quote]

Thank you Pyro for your response. There were differences in the way different peoples dressed, even up to the present day. A black cummerband/sash over a Braga/Vraga or black head-'band' would denote a christian and a colored / white one a Turk. And that was since the British Rule. But reading between the lines I am not far off the truth. You show me any country who was happy with their goverment!

Regards
DA