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Should RoC admin compromise for the sake of progress

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Should RoC admin compromise for the sake of progress

Zero tolerance at any cost, even if it means the status quo continues for another 100 years
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Compromise and start negotiations
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Total votes : 19

Postby paliometoxo » Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:45 pm

by showing they dont care trying to make eu accept them as they are without solving the cy problem or recognising cyprus and for TRNC to be recognised is what they want. and for the trnc to be eu also seprate from ROC as a seperate eu country..

dident istanbul used to be greek before turks invaded and took it from us? sure 600 yrs ago but it was still ours and turks came from asia and took it.. just like they take all of our things.
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Postby growuptcs » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:11 pm

mrfromng:
Is it difficult to accept the fact that the TCs are now able to have their voices heard on a globle platform and they are gaining sympathy? Does it really hurt you so much to learn that your policies are now considered to be dirty and unethical by the international community?

mrfromng, can you take a time out to listen to your lying self that the LC's (lying cypriots)are gaining sympathy. In your own minds your gaining your own sympathy. Stop feeling bad for yourselves, you deserve every bit of alienation from the world. And crying that we're dirty and unethical. Yes we can play ping-pong on this site with words, but your NEVER going to get heard with our properties. Whats so hard to understand? Seriously. The lies are actually embedded in your heads.
GC's fighting through logic, while TC's are fighting through fantasies. Something has to give so Turkey can get into the EU. And the EU is a logical platform.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:26 pm

growuptcs wrote:mrfromng:
Is it difficult to accept the fact that the TCs are now able to have their voices heard on a globle platform and they are gaining sympathy? Does it really hurt you so much to learn that your policies are now considered to be dirty and unethical by the international community?

mrfromng, can you take a time out to listen to your lying self that the LC's (lying cypriots)are gaining sympathy. In your own minds your gaining your own sympathy. Stop feeling bad for yourselves, you deserve every bit of alienation from the world. And crying that we're dirty and unethical. Yes we can play ping-pong on this site with words, but your NEVER going to get heard with our properties. Whats so hard to understand? Seriously. The lies are actually embedded in your heads.


Rubbish,

Its because of our inability to lie that sees us in the shit we are in now. You've always been good liars and excellent at deceit whereas with us its been a case of what you see is what you get.

But I've always believed the good guys always win at the end and we will. People are seeing you for what you really are and your games up.
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Postby growuptcs » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:32 pm

You keep implying people or nations are seeing us for what we are, and no one said anything negative about the GC's fighting for their cause. So either change your tune or say something else because your cause to keep N.Cyprus will never fly in Cyprus or the EU or the rest of the world.
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Postby growuptcs » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:38 pm

mrfromng:
But I've always believed the good guys always win at the end and we will. People are seeing you for what you really are and your games up.


No one is saying that your not good guys, just corrupted because of your government minds are 100 years behind.
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Postby DT. » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:39 pm

I don't really see why my TC friends are surprised. We've always said we are te govt of the entire country. Cetinkaya has been invited (and has considered) joining the CFA so as to be able to play not only local games but if they're any good to progress into Uefa games as well at some point.

Since our position (and that of the world) is that there is only one Cyprus federation on the island and any international games that take place can only do so with the explicit consent of the CFA...why the surprise when the plug got pulled. Its the ROC position, its the UEFA position...we are in position to be able to pull the plug on these things.....once again we've done it. Whats the shock????

Had a football match really been the issue here then Cetinkaya could have sent a one pager fax to the cfa and ask for this game to take place. The cfa would have bent over backwards to make it happen and would have sent over a band as well.

But this wasn't about a football match was it? It never is about a footbal;l match or a seminar or a parade or a direct flight....they are baby steps to independance. Baby steps to a different state.

If this is what the TC's want then Talat should have the balls to come out and say..."you know what? We don't wanna join up anymore....we don't wanna join up in a republic, federation, confederation or any other -ation. We want a separate country and thats all we're prepared to discuss"

Until you do that and you're still discussing the possibility of a federal govt with the GC's then there's only one govt here...and they're gonna do everything possible to keep it that way.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:45 pm

growuptcs wrote:You keep implying people or nations are seeing us for what we are, and no one said anything negative about the GC's fighting for their cause. So either change your tune or say something else because your cause to keep N.Cyprus will never fly in Cyprus or the EU or the rest of the world.


Haven't heard anything positive lately either. Only days ago Merkel told you what she thinks of your EU membership, Jack Straw wasn't full of praise about it either oh yeah Verhugen thinks you are a bunch of liars and cheats too. So all you've got on your side at the moment is Big Brother Greece, big deal.

Take your blinkers off and see it as it really is. Your loyalty to Papad and his unreasonable approach and policy to the Cyprob will be your downfall.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:48 pm

growuptcs wrote:mrfromng:
But I've always believed the good guys always win at the end and we will. People are seeing you for what you really are and your games up.


No one is saying that your not good guys, just corrupted because of your government minds are 100 years behind.


Strange, we think exactly the same about you guys and your politicians :wink: :wink:
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Postby DT. » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:52 pm

mrfromng wrote:
growuptcs wrote:You keep implying people or nations are seeing us for what we are, and no one said anything negative about the GC's fighting for their cause. So either change your tune or say something else because your cause to keep N.Cyprus will never fly in Cyprus or the EU or the rest of the world.


Haven't heard anything positive lately either. Only days ago Merkel told you what she thinks of your EU membership, Jack Straw wasn't full of praise about it either oh yeah Verhugen thinks you are a bunch of liars and cheats too. So all you've got on your side at the moment is Big Brother Greece, big deal.

Take your blinkers off and see it as it really is. Your loyalty to Papad and his unreasonable approach and policy to the Cyprob will be your downfall.


And what are Jack Straw and Verheugen doing with their lives these days?
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Postby growuptcs » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:58 pm

mrfromng:
Take your blinkers off and see it as it really is. Your loyalty to Papad and his unreasonable approach and policy to the Cyprob will be your downfall.


The loyalty that we have for TPap is because of the appreciation of the man fighting for our rights and stolen homes in N.Cyprus. Anyone else would have signed away our rights and homes. And its not his unreasonable approach thats the problem, its your unreasonable mindsets. Your almost as good as zan and vp with the propoganda you throw out there saying how hated he is.
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