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[paliometoxo]

yes so i read on the news big0z... but only because turkey complain to eu and want the rest of eu to be like them.. and want to be accepted without recognizing cyprus and allowing cypriot planes to go over or land in turkey

wow votes are up to 50/50... i personally votd for the no tolerence how about you all?

[Kikapu]

- Turkey does not give a shit about EU!
- Turkish people no longer find EU a desirable proposition!
- I do not want Turkey or Cyprus to be in EU (alas half is already in - the balls will follow soon, as the saying goes).
- Eu is a sick old man about to burst at its seams because of the recent Balkan entries!
- The founder members of EU have started to have their doubts about EUs future and its purpose, which has surpassed its original one (EEC)!
- EU have tried but realised they cannot dictate to Turkey what to do with her international politics using membership as a carrot. Hence the recent U turn by Merkel, claiming it was a mistake allowing Cyprus into EU!

All these may be true BigOz, but I still see Turkey attending every EU meeting arranged with them. So why doesn't Turkey just come out and say, cancel our application to the EU, which was made many many years ago. I don't think Turkey can really afford to do that, at least not at this point and I don't even know, if they ever be able to voluntarily.

As for Merkel, she can say what ever she wants, because she was not at the helm of Germany at the time of the voting on Cyprus. I would like to hear from any leader of the 15 nations in the EU at the time who are still in office today and say "I made a mistake in voting Cyprus into the EU". I personally would have loved to have seen Cyprus problem solved before entering the EU. Why on earth did the AP referendum and the EU entry were so closely arranged together after 30 years of division.

Someone was playing games with numbers if you ask me, and the outcome was designed the way it turned out to be.

[paliometoxo]

thats so true... why does turkey still attend why dont you just say we are out?? but instead they try threaten saying we are "losing apettite" LIES

nicely said Kikapu

[karma]

Talat cancelled the meeting because of the bloody friendly match??????? Bit of a lame excuse is it not?

no doubt next time Tpap will cancel the meeting coz his wife may be on her periods so they will never be able to meet as long as they breath

[bigOz]

Application to join EU was made and was in progress long time ago. Within all political parties in Turkey (as in many other countries) there are those who are now pro-EU, and those who are anti-EU. It would not help the internal relationsa of any government in power in Turkey to stop negotiating with EU or more imprtantly "withdraw" such an application.

It is also not in the best interest for international relationships with EU members - they obviously want to keep the level of current trading arrangements to remain (albeit EU exports a lot more into Turkey in terms of dollars, than imports from her!). The most important point is; if and when the time comes, the people would have to decide by going to a referendum, just like they did in many other countries who recently joined EU.

As things stand Turkey has lost the enthusism and the apetite to put pressure on anyone for an early EU membership - in fact, they sound very much like they wouldn't care less. That is the current political atmosphere reflected as they enter the election period...

[paliometoxo]

full deatils canbe found here: http://www.cyprusweekly.com.cy/default. ... geID=304_1

[growuptcs]

bigoz, when the day comes that the majority in Turkey are more educated, you'll see a Cyprus solution. You all act like uneducated gangsters. Thats exactly what the EU doesn't need.

[paliometoxo]

very true growuptcs

[Kikapu]

Application to join EU was made and was in progress long time ago. Within all political parties in Turkey (as in many other countries) there are those who are now pro-EU, and those who are anti-EU. It would not help the internal relationsa of any government in power in Turkey to stop negotiating with EU or more imprtantly "withdraw" such an application.

It is also not in the best interest for international relationships with EU members - they obviously want to keep the level of current trading arrangements to remain (albeit EU exports a lot more into Turkey in terms of dollars, than imports from her!). The most important point is; if and when the time comes, the people would have to decide by going to a referendum, just like they did in many other countries who recently joined EU.

As things stand Turkey has lost the enthusism and the apetite to put pressure on anyone for an early EU membership - in fact, they sound very much like they wouldn't care less. That is the current political atmosphere reflected as they enter the election period...

Are you sure it is not because Turkey can't bear the idea of having to cave into EU demands to allow the RoC access to her ports and air space, so they are delaying as long as possible by giving the "we don't care attitude" so that EU may back away from it's demands for Turkey to allow the RoC all the rights shared by all EU members..

This is going to be a BIG pill for Turkey to swallow, and to a country they don't even recognise. I really don't think Turkish people would want to be left out of the EU, purely based on the Cyprus situation, referendum or not. They will trade Cyprus for the EU any day. Not the Military of course, but the citizens of Turkey. We will have to wait and see what are the world political circumstances at that time period.

Sitting government at the time will decide to have a referendum or not surely. If they think that the public opinion is against the EU entry, then they will not hold one and instead push it through the Government, assuming the Government wants Turkey in, and I believe they will want her in the EU.

[Kikapu]

Talat cancelled the meeting because of the bloody friendly match??????? Bit of a lame excuse is it not?

no doubt next time Tpap will cancel the meeting coz his wife may be on her periods :

I did not know that she was younger than 50 years old.

When are we going to get your "report from Cyprus" Karma.

Hurry it up already.