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Should RoC admin compromise for the sake of progress

Zero tolerance at any cost, even if it means the status quo continues for another 100 years
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Compromise and start negotiations
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Total votes : 19

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:30 pm

mrfromng wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:mrfromng,

The Gcs have made so many thousands of cpompromises just to "start negotiations" over the years. The problem was that each compromise was never forgotten just added to the previous ones. So we came to the point that we are already much below our red lines.

Not only i support ABSOLUTELY NO COMPROMISES from now on, I also support WITHDRAWING ALL compromises we made all these years like the stupid compromise on BBF.


Funny its only you that see it this way. You are losing credibility on the international arena and your policies and dirty tricks are well documented within the EU and the UN.

For sure this would serve no purpose for either side but you have more to lose than us. Think about it.


I stopped counting the opinion of ANYONE either the UN or in the EU my friend by the minute I realised each and every individual starting from Koffi Anan, his asssistant Alvaro De Soto, the EU commissioner Verhoigen, CAN BE BOUGHT OUT with just a couple of millions.

If I had any doubts left those vanished when as I saw the wife of the BRITISH PRIME MINISTER HIMSELF Cherrie Blair defending the Orams crooks who received stolen GC property just to get half a million in her pocket.
And for just a few pounds more she started referring to the occupied areas of Cyprus as "trnc"in front of the British so called court of Justice.

In short my friend I fuck them all.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:37 pm

Get Real! wrote:mrfromng, the RoC’s territorial sovereignty and authority to all four corners of the island is non-negotiable.

Not even in 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years!

Is that enough digits for you? :lol:


All corners? you sure? you wanna rephrase this so you don't sound silly?

GR, looking at those zeros made me dizzy :lol: :lol:
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Postby MR-from-NG » Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:47 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
mrfromng wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:mrfromng,

The Gcs have made so many thousands of cpompromises just to "start negotiations" over the years. The problem was that each compromise was never forgotten just added to the previous ones. So we came to the point that we are already much below our red lines.

Not only i support ABSOLUTELY NO COMPROMISES from now on, I also support WITHDRAWING ALL compromises we made all these years like the stupid compromise on BBF.


Funny its only you that see it this way. You are losing credibility on the international arena and your policies and dirty tricks are well documented within the EU and the UN.

For sure this would serve no purpose for either side but you have more to lose than us. Think about it.


I stopped counting the opinion of ANYONE either the UN or in the EU my friend by the minute I realised each and every individual starting from Koffi Anan, his asssistant Alvaro De Soto, the EU commissioner Verhoigen, CAN BE BOUGHT OUT with just a couple of millions.

If I had any doubts left those vanished when as I saw the wife of the BRITISH PRIME MINISTER HIMSELF Cherrie Blair defending the Orams crooks who received stolen GC property just to get half a million in her pocket.
And for just a few pounds more she started referring to the occupied areas of Cyprus as "trnc"in front of the British so called court of Justice.

In short my friend I fuck them all.


I disagree with you Pyrpolizer,

You cannot label these people as corrupt just because they have different points of view re the Cyprob.

Is it difficult to accept the fact that the TCs are now able to have their voices heard on a globle platform and they are gaining sympathy? Does it really hurt you so much to learn that your policies are now considered to be dirty and unethical by the international community?

Is everybody corrupt for telling the truth about your dirty tricks that got you into the EU?

Come on guys, get a grip, stop living in denial and stop living on cuckoo land.
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Postby paliometoxo » Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:52 pm

sympathy... its turks fault for invding in the first place then we wouldent of been in any of this mess today..

why would anyone sympothise the turks? because they have bigger army in the middle east? all you turks do is threaten your neighbour with army action and bully anyone who you can.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:57 pm

mrfromng wrote:
Get Real! wrote:mrfromng, the RoC’s territorial sovereignty and authority to all four corners of the island is non-negotiable.

Not even in 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years!

Is that enough digits for you? :lol:


All corners? you sure? you wanna rephrase this so you don't sound silly?

GR, looking at those zeros made me dizzy :lol: :lol:

One of the last words an old man said to me during the July 74 Turkish invasion, when I was only 9-10, was… “It’s just a storm and every storm has an end”. His words gave me the strength to want to see this storm through... :)
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:58 pm

There was of course an easy solution for the game to be played, and that was to move the game to the RoC, which would have had all the legal requirements to be accepted by all sides. Just think for a moment. TC's and GC's at the same stadium supporting Cetinkaya V's Luton. So why didn't Talat do that, if it was important for the game to go on and keep the scheduled meetings on track.

Somebody wanted an out of the meetings and they got it.

Are both sides really trying to get things done together, or is it more of who can FUCK the other HARDEST:

When is the "TRNC" going to recognise, that they are not internationally RECOGNISED and stop trying to do things through the back door.

It's time to put "Kofi Kikapu's Peace Solution" to work. Had that been in place already, the game would have been already over with and played in the North.

Score....Luton 5....Cetnikaya 5
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Postby oranos64 » Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:03 pm

I think both men are afraid of compromise ..especially the greek side with the election coming ...but i am not surprised that TALAT ...has been so cowardly lately ....the military have already made it clear they are not happy with his administration ...

time will tell ...but time will also fuel the fire ...
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Postby paliometoxo » Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:08 pm

i think its more they both hate eachother that much... i can imagine what they where really thinking when they shook eachothers hand
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Postby MR-from-NG » Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:10 pm

paliometoxo wrote:sympathy... its turks fault for invding in the first place then we wouldent of been in any of this mess today..

why would anyone sympothise the turks? because they have bigger army in the middle east? all you turks do is threaten your neighbour with army action and bully anyone who you can.


Are you serious Pali? You're right in the sense that its all Turkeys fault. Had they not intervened you would have killed us all and that would have been the end of Cyprus problem.

How pathetic you all are. :roll: :roll:
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Postby bigOz » Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:16 pm

It all goes back to what I wrote about a month a ago! TP and Co cannot expect meetings and settlements based on good will, when at every opportunity they are showing "bad-will" in the international arena, to cut off any further development in TCs lifestyle! If you intend to come to a settlement and expect one soon, then what does it matter if TCs fly home direct or play Manchester United in a friendly?

I can understand the feelings of the extinct "sabre tooth white tigers"(?) :lol: but I cannot understand those who claim to want an end this conflict with a peaceful solution, applauding such behaviour! I'll tell you exactly what the end product of all this is:

1. TCs in general will see the GCs and their government as two faced backstabbers, not to be trusted yet.

2. It will give the chance to any Partition demanding nationalist fanatic to say: "You see, we told you so! Now will you believe the only friends Turks have are the other Turks!".

3. It will dilute the goodwill, so far being shown by the solution seeking CTP, because their supporters will start demanding less tolerance to GCs behaviour.

4. Some supporters of a united Cyprus or a federal system will now switch sides to those who are anti-unification.

Whether anyone likes it or not, the above is exactly what is happening. In any case Talat had no choice but to act to please the will of the people in the North - a political move not wanting to alienate his or CTP supporters! One would have like to see a GC football team come over to North and play a TC team (or the other way round)! Not screaming like bitches because the very people you intend to share a homeland with are having a friendly international game!

It has done absolutely fuck all for inter-communal relationships, to any sensible future meetings or increasing trust for the GCs! IT IS UTTERLY REDICILOUS AND COMICAL, USING POLITICAL PRESSURE TO STOP A FRIENDLY GAME BEING PLAYED WITH A FOREIGN TEAM, AT TIME WHEN THE RoC GOVERNMENT CAN DO NOTHING TO STOP GCs FROM CROSSING OVER INTO TRNC TO DINE, WINE, GAMBLE AND ENJOY THEMSELVES! Is this hypocracy at its highest or what? :roll:
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