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[zan]

Bringing up 63 to 74 today is senseless because it was like the wild west then. BOTH sides suffered throughout history and no side wants to acknowledge that because it would be like defeat for both of us. So ONLY suggesting to keep the TRNC valid(which its not), only reminds us of those memories. Unification means WE BOTH have have to let go of the past. So TRNC isn't a solution, its just a band-aid for you and thats all it is. Our wounds aren't even being considered from your side because of trying to hijack our rights. So when you talk in a one way tone, only GC's know your not talking through your heart for unification, your talking through our windows of our homes.

So where is your arguement coming from, the industrial age. I am talking of the era of our republic and you want to ignore a very large part of it and what you lost. Were is yoour two way talk????? We give you back your homes and?????????1974 was not the start my friend.

[growuptcs]

You give us back our homes and you can have more rights than other minorities in other EU countries. It's up to Turkey if they want to give you another house, its not up to us if they want to.
I think maybe the word minority offends you, which it shouldn't. Technically, everyone abroad who writes on this site, and are from Cyprus, are minority themselves.

[zan]

You give us back our homes and you can have more rights than other minorities in other EU countries. It's up to Turkey if they want to give you another house, its not up to us if they want to.
I think maybe the word minority offends you, which it shouldn't. Technically, everyone abroad who writes on this site, and are from Cyprus, are minority themselves. You never hear us b_tching about it.

There you go again.... WE ARE NOT A "MINORITY" EXCEPT IN NUMERICAL TERMS. We are Turkish CYPRIOTS and part owners of the island. You can take it or leave it. Cyprus is not Greek. Plain enough for you.

[growuptcs]

Thats what minority means, is by the numbers zan. Can you define the word please, because maybe you held our homes because of different understandings to the word.

[zan]

Thats what minority means, is by the numbers zan. Can you define the word please, because maybe you held our homes because of different understandings to the word.

There are many ways in which you can use words what ever the defenition. The way you used it is to offer us greater rights than other minorities in that you are the owners of the island. You have no right to offer us anything it is our right by birth. We do not ask you for rights but demand it. The fact that history then says we are to be awarded extra rights to prevent you from getting carried away with yourselves as in 1963 and after is a consequence. That could have been superceded again had the republic been allowed to run its natural course. We are numerically a minority but politically equal. I hope you can see the difference.

[paliometoxo]

>Tell us how many TCs got an invitation then?????? [/quote]

who knows but some of u got in just fine no problems... so when they say its FULL its FULL its not a racist thing...

like when the turkish cypriots living in london go demonstrate saying eu racist to turks when you people refuse to comply with the laws what do you expect?

[zan]

>Tell us how many TCs got an invitation then??????

who knows but some of u got in just fine no problems... so when they say its FULL its FULL its not a racist thing...

like when the turkish cypriots living in london go demonstrate saying eu racist to turks when you people refuse to comply with the laws what do you expect?[/quote]

From a man that actually went to this meating after he heard about it on the day I was told that not even one invitation was sent to a TC. The meeting was for CYpriots and we soon saw what they meant by Cypriots. Great way to build trust and a great way towards a solution. What it does show is that we are to be trampled on yet again.

As far as the EU goes, when they decide to do what they promised and live by the rules they set for themselves then they can start throwing stone and that goes for the GCs too.

[zan]

A series of news reports in the Greek press have claimed the event had been organised for families of missing Greek Cypriots to lobby MP. But while adverts placed in a newspaper by the National Federation of Cypriots said the seminar was about ‘Turkey, Cyprus and the EU.’ One newspaper also described the handful of Turkish Cypriots participants as “extremists” and accused them of being members of an ultra nationalist group that allegedly murdered two Greek Cypriots.
Embargoed! member Ata Cholak, one of only four Turkish Cypriots initially allowed into the seminar room, described the accusations as "sheer paranoia”. He said: “They are totally groundless. The comments are a smokescreen to divert attention from the racist gathering that evening.”
He added: “The National Federation claims to represent all Cypriots, yet it barred Turkish Cypriots from attending.”
A total of fifteen MPs were invited to take the stand at the seminar on 3 July. These were: Joan Ryan, Roger Gale, David Burrowes, Andy Love, Stephen Pound, Theresa Villiers, David Lepper, Mike Gapes, Michael Connarty, Andrew Dismore, Bill Etherington, Fabian Hamilton, Edward O'Hara, Rudi Vis and Alan Meale.
Servet Hassan, Vice-President of the FTA UK and also present at the meeting, said: “A few MPs attempted to portray a balanced view on Cyprus, but late arrivals – probably unaware there were Turks in the room – went on a major Turkey-bashing mission. Rudi Vis' anti-Turkish comments in particular were deeply offensive. It felt like we were in a BNP meeting instead of the balanced and informed debate you would expect in the home of British democracy.”
CTCA Chair Akmen Sitki said: “It was clear to every Turkish Cypriot in the room that when it comes to Cyprus’ recent tragic history, only Greek Cypriot suffering matters. Every one of the 15 MPs spoke about missing Greek Cypriots, yet only one also reflected on missing Turkish Cypriots.”
CTCA, Embargoed! and the FTA UK called on the attending MPs to become better informed about the past and present suffering of both Cypriot communities and to stop working with Greek Cypriot groups who refuse dialogue with Turkish Cypriots. The groups praised the positive intervention of Edmonton MP Andy Love, who secured the admission of four Turkish Cypriots into the seminar, and also Lord Maginnis, who asked to speak at the end of the seminar to put across the Turkish Cypriot viewpoint.

[growuptcs]

Zan, the EU didn't promise anything, so stop using that word. The UN offered their advice that was flawed. They offered to fill in the blanks, and Turkey being in NATO, favored them because of that. They tried to get over and we didn't let them. Simple as that. A level headed country wouldn't dare fight for whats not humanely balanced. I don't think any country at this point would support Turkey's prejudice ways anymore, because the wrong will is getting stronger and they all backed off supporting Turkey verbally. Don't take it that I'm trying to kick you when your down, lets start fresh. I know your probably too old to be bothered with all this. Just don't ruin it for the future generations in Cyprus, because of your miserable past head.

[MR-from-NG]

You give us back our homes and you can have more rights than other minorities in other EU countries. It's up to Turkey if they want to give you another house, its not up to us if they want to.
I think maybe the word minority offends you, which it shouldn't. Technically, everyone abroad who writes on this site, and are from Cyprus, are minority themselves.

How generous of Growuptcs, he is offering us minority rights, wow golly aren't we privileged?

You can all stick the type of unification you're offering right up your backsides. This type of shit will only strengthen our struggle for partition and recognition. Go TRNC, GO KKTC.