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There was no Cyprus Problem for the TCs from 1974-2000

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby T_C » Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:02 am

humanist wrote:About turkish cypriots stealling or looting well I think we can safely say that some greeks speaking cypriot scum had done the same to turish speaking cypriot properties in the south. Though my understanding that turkish speaking cypriots did not leave like greek cyp's did from the north.


They very much did Humanist...my aunt had to flee her home from EOKA. The thing is not many TCs have spoken out about what happened to them so its almost been sweeped under the carpet :(

turkish_cypriot (Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:57 pm) wrote:I went to visit my 'Yenge' (Aunt of some sort) today and she was telling me how they lost their home in Limassol.

It was in 74 and her mum was in hospital, she said Makarios and EOKA ''birbirlerine girdiler'' (they basically clashed) and they was told to go pick her up from hospital because the GCs didnt want them there and were threatening to throw the TC patients out the windows. They went, got her and returned home.

A few days later as they were picking grapes in their village (Aleftora or something like that) they got a message from Lefkoşa telling them to 'RUN' because the GCs were getting ready to raid their village. They left absolutely everything and ran towards the enclaves where a van with British soldiers picked them up and took them to the enclave. She said that they didn't even have a tent at first and had to sleep under trees. They listened to the radio and heard how their village was taken over by the GCs. A few people had refused to leave and were beaten and left for dead by the GCs that attacked. Everything was looted, all their money and jewellery stolen...

Anyways they spent 7 months in the enclave untill they were sent to Adana in Turkey and back to Cyprus after 2 weeks.

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Her husband (her fiance at the time) was one of the people who was fighting in Kyrenia before Turkey came. She still keeps all the letters she sent him through the red cross. Reading those letters really touched me cos she didnt know if she was ever going to see him again and she wrote each letter as if it were her last :(. They span the whole time she was in the enclave all the way to Dec 1974...

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Almost every single one of his friends died and he ''survived'' by hiding in trees. He is now a broken man and has been since those events...

They lost their lovely home to the EOKA f****ts and are now living in poverty. At the same time some Turkish c***s are abusing what should be HER country which should be catering for HER needs and living it large while she can barely afford to pay the rent for some crusty run down house... :evil: :evil: :evil:

Still..they went back to their house when the gates opened and a Greek Cypriot man is renting her house and she said hes been taking really good care of it. ''Helal olsun'' is what she said... :cry: I dont know what upset me more, her story or the ''helal olsun''.

This is them talking with the GC man.
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Their old house.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:09 am

Here we go again... We ask a question AS TO WHEN EXACTLY AFTER 1974 THE TCs FELT THERE WAS A CYPRUS PROBLEM THAT AFFECTED THEM NEGATIVELY IN A WAY IT MADE THEM WANT A SOLUTION, we get replies for the 1963 and 1967 period.

TC I was expecting a better reply-at least from you.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:19 am

And if you think your aunt had a hard time in 1974 by not knowing when her husband would come back while at the same time she received more than 20 letters from him through the Red Cross, just compare it with the pain thousands of GC families had with having absolutely no idea as to what happened to their people if they were alive or dead while they were kept prisoners in Turkey.
Imagine their despair when they saw a film in BBC showing lined up prisoners in Turkey and they recognised their people. Furthermore imagine what is their pain today when hundreds of them recognised their people in those films however THEY NEVER CAME BACK.

Can you tell me how many letters the GC captive/prisoners in Turkey were allowed to send to their people through the Red cross while they were kept in Turkey?











































NONE!
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:26 am

One thing more:
Do you know how the vast majority of the 1500 still missing persons was made up? It was not from Red Cross reports. It was not from any catalogue that Turkey submitted. It was from GCs captives who were sent to Turkey and they testified that TOGETHER WITH THEM it was YIANNIS AND KOSTIS AND ANDREAS who they knew personally but NEVER CAME BACK.

What happened to them, any idea??
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Postby paliometoxo » Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:50 pm

what does ''helal olsun'' mean anyway
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Postby T_C » Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:54 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Here we go again... We ask a question AS TO WHEN EXACTLY AFTER 1974 THE TCs FELT THERE WAS A CYPRUS PROBLEM THAT AFFECTED THEM NEGATIVELY IN A WAY IT MADE THEM WANT A SOLUTION, we get replies for the 1963 and 1967 period.

TC I was expecting a better reply-at least from you.


Alright man chill the f**k out!!!!!

I know your suffering was much more Pyro, sorry for daring to mention the things you always cry like a baby about that happened to GCs.. :roll:

If you would of read what I replied to and the message I quoted instead of going on the defence, you would understood why I posted it.
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Postby paliometoxo » Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:29 pm

when both sides are able to let go of the past is when a solution will be found and peace will be between the both sides
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:38 pm

turkish_cypriot wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Here we go again... We ask a question AS TO WHEN EXACTLY AFTER 1974 THE TCs FELT THERE WAS A CYPRUS PROBLEM THAT AFFECTED THEM NEGATIVELY IN A WAY IT MADE THEM WANT A SOLUTION, we get replies for the 1963 and 1967 period.

TC I was expecting a better reply-at least from you.


Alright man chill the f**k out!!!!!

I know your suffering was much more Pyro, sorry for daring to mention the things you always cry like a baby about that happened to GCs.. :roll:

If you would of read what I replied to and the message I quoted instead of going on the defence, you would understood why I posted it.


Oh sorry for braking the TC monopoly of crying like babies. I will be more careful next time. :P :P :P :P :P :P

Btw you still haven't answered my question. You can always ask your aunt to tell you after you are done with your "payment of duty" in Sterling and 21 days by 24 hours currencies.
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Postby T_C » Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:07 pm

paliometoxo wrote:what does ''helal olsun'' mean anyway


Take it with my blessing (and enjoy it)!
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Postby paliometoxo » Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:16 pm

suprising that she would say that ... ty for the translation
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