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Partition is here......!!

Postby Kikapu » Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:42 pm

I tried the "Solution Plan" with you all, so now let me ask you a question on the Partition. Many TC's on this Forum are waiting for a Partition every passing day just like the Christians are waiting for the Second coming of the Christ. Lets assume, both of the above have happened today, now what.??

These are my questions.

1. What does Partition actually mean to you.?

a) the "TRNC" is a recognised Country?
b) the "TRNC" gets to have Direct Trade and Flights?
c) the "TRNC" will make an application to the EU to become a member?
d) the "TRNC" will no longer have to deal with the GC property claims?
e) the "TRNC" will no longer need Turkey's financial and military
support?
f) the "TRNC" will be welcomed by the RoC as good neighbours?
g) the "TRNC" will become a prosperous and productive Country.?

2. How does the Partition help the "TRNC".?

a) Other than Tourism, what other Trade the "TRNC" can offer
to the outside world that is not already available to those
countries.?
b) Will the "TRNC" be able to export anymore goods than they
already export to Turkey now.?
c) How does the "TRNC" ever expect to enter the EU along with
Turkey.?
d) After Partition, what is to stop Turkey annexing the "TRNC" if neither
will be accepted into the EU.?
e) What goods can be imported into the "TRNC", that they are not
available right now via Turkey.?
f) How can the "TRNC" have a Government and run a country with
such small population without "Heavy Corruption" because it will be
the case of, most people will know someone that knows someone in
the Government and will ask for favours.?
g) Will the "TRNC" TC's tear up their RoC passports, once they got their
Partition or will the RoC do it for them, as no longer being Citizens
of the RoC.?

3. Can most of the items above NOT be achieved through a "TRUE
BBF". Is Partition really necessary, even if it means, there will
be some Greek spoken around some TC's.?

4. Any answers.?
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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:31 pm

what about the casinos? i read run by the mob nd also for many on our side you can commit crime and run to the north its a heaven for criminals... how can the turkish like this better living in 37% of an island with so many isolations? i dont blame the ones who sell and move to the south or out of cyprus...

but IMO ( in my opinion ) the turkish Cypriot Leader.. does not want re-unification but a recognised turkish republic of northern cyprus and the next Leader i am sure they will pick a anti-Reunification Leader who will avoid it.

Turkey their mainland cannot even join Eu with all the human right violations let alone the TRNC joining Eu.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:33 pm

paliometoxo wrote:what about the casinos? i read run by the mob nd also for many on our side you can commit crime and run to the north its a heaven for criminals... how can the turkish like this better living in 37% of an island with so many isolations? i dont blame the ones who sell and move to the south or out of cyprus...

but IMO ( in my opinion ) the turkish Cypriot Leader.. does not want re-unification but a recognised turkish republic of northern cyprus and the next Leader i am sure they will pick a anti-Reunification Leader who will avoid it.

Turkey their mainland cannot even join Eu with all the human right violations let alone the TRNC joining Eu.


Firstly welcome to the forum.

You appear to very young or very naive, thinking the GC want unification..they only want it on their terms and sod the rest, to hell with the TCs after all this is a Greek island according to many Gcs.
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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:38 pm

no im just saying what i hear from news and different web sites from google not from greek or turkish web sites but also english written ones and from tv.. i would of said yes to the annan plan though if i was able to vote but having been in uk with a british passport i cant and i dont think i will sign up to vote either i think my perants do s they are both from nicosia not sure if they even vote though.

p.s thnx for the welcome
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:44 pm

Many countires are imperfect and have internal problems ours is no differrent...better living in peace and tranquility than in fear for your lives....for us the period after 1974 has been a thousands times better than 1963 to 1974.
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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:47 pm

surely the Tcs cant be scared still 33 years later
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:54 pm

The wounds are deep but it was us that said Yes to trying again not GCs. You have what you want a GC state run by GCs for GCs..all you are missing is land and your leaders pull the wool over GC refugees eyes telling them they will all go home...total bullshit, they do this so they do not lose power or the GC "RoC".
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Postby ge0rg10 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:32 pm

that sums it up, in my opinion, political leaders do what they can to stay in power, not what is best for the state. lets say cyprus was unified tomorrow, would pap and talet be out of a job?
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:47 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Many countires are imperfect and have internal problems ours is no differrent...better living in peace and tranquility than in fear for your lives....for us the period after 1974 has been a thousands times better than 1963 to 1974.


I have given you guys new material to work with, so why don't you answer my questions above rather than regurgitating all the crap that has been talked before, even though some of you never even experienced any of the claims made, between 1963-74. We have all heard them before.

Give us some direct answers to direct questions if you can.

If not, I will totally understand and so will the others.
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Postby humanist » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:50 pm

NOT IN MY LIFETIME, Kikapu ..............
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