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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:37 pm

bigOz wrote:I just want to ask one question to everyone, have you ever met a Turkish person speaking Greek or a Greek person speaking Turkish? If so can you share with us how your feelings might have changed from the initial Greek-Turk feeling to perhaps something else. I have and I know the answer, but it would be great to find out if it was a unique feeling or if it works for everyone.

:) I guess my previous response to Deniz answers your question...
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:13 am

After the borders openned, last year I went to my village where I met an old lady and neighbor. Greek speaking of course. I doubt she had more than primary school education, and her Turkish was better than mine, I was shocked. When I used to play with her sons we used to speak 'village talk ' (Get Reals expression) (3/4 Greek, 1/4 Turkish). Her husband spoke the mixed 'village talk'. It was like i'd never been away after 43 years. My grand father spoke and wrote both languages fluently. The Turkish was the old Arabic script, he never wrote in modern Turkish.

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Postby humanist » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:39 am

My grandfather spoke Turkish not fluently but enough to have a conversation with Turkish speaking Cypriots and he used to tell me stories of working with Turkish speaking Cypriots at the mines near Ayios Panteleimon? As a child we used to live in Xeros and I remember a few Turkish speaking women speaking to me in Greek when I used to accompany my grandmother to work in a strawberry farm in Lefka. I was actually held by Turkish speaking Cypriot women who shared lunch with us as we did with them. OOOOhhhhhhh my gawd they didn't get poinsoned by us the Greek witches of Xeros!!!


Sorry I didn't answer the question;

I guess as a young child I was fascinated by the language and how these Cypriots spoke a different language to this day I find Turkish very passionate and sexy language on par with Italian for me, forget the french. I would welcome unification anyday and the opportunity to live next door to Turkish speaking Cypriots and learn the language, attend cultural festivals and all that that makes Cyprus what it is.
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Postby bigOz » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:07 am

Thanks for all the replies everyone but the point I was trying to make was:

When I used to see a GC for the first time, there would be a built in apprehension and an expectation of hostility - irrespective of their gender. On the odd occasions, and more so in North Cyprus, when I met a GC who spoke to me in Turkish, sub-consciously my whole attitude and outlook changed in a second, and I no longer had the bad vibes.

I believe the language is a barrier, and can be a very powerful tool in dispersing any ill-feeling between different communities. Where ever people share a common ground as in: a sport they like, job they do, type of music they enjoy, football team they support and even language they speak, it definitely helps people tolerate each other more and communicate better.

Hence, going back to the original point made by the"cultural revolution" I mentioned in my other post, it is obvious that by teaching our children to speak Greek and Turkish (besides English) we could be contributing a lot to the creation of a more tolerant and unified society a decade or two from now. Am I right or am I right? :D
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Postby DT. » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:36 am

bigOz wrote:Thanks for all the replies everyone but the point I was trying to make was:

When I used to see a GC for the first time, there would be a built in apprehension and an expectation of hostility - irrespective of their gender. On the odd occasions, and more so in North Cyprus, when I met a GC who spoke to me in Turkish, sub-consciously my whole attitude and outlook changed in a second, and I no longer had the bad vibes.

I believe the language is a barrier, and can be a very powerful tool in dispersing any ill-feeling between different communities. Where ever people share a common ground as in: a sport they like, job they do, type of music they enjoy, football team they support and even language they speak, it definitely helps people tolerate each other more and communicate better.

Hence, going back to the original point made by the"cultural revolution" I mentioned in my other post, it is obvious that by teaching our children to speak Greek and Turkish (besides English) we could be contributing a lot to the creation of a more tolerant and unified society a decade or two from now. Am I right or am I right? :D


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Postby paliometoxo » Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:20 pm

whats ROC stand for anyway? stupid Q but ive never heard it
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Postby DT. » Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:21 pm

paliometoxo wrote:whats ROC stand for anyway? stupid Q but ive never heard it


Republic of Cyprus
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Postby paliometoxo » Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:26 pm

LOL thanks long live the ROC :D
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Postby T_C » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:36 pm

My grandad couldnt speak Turkish till he moved to Lefkoşa from Karpaz many years ago...he was really smart and ended up learning Turkish and became a literature teacher. He wrote quite a few books but he could speak Greek fluently till the day he died. When his sister would come to visit us in Lefkoşa they preffered to speak Greek.

I have no problem with Greek people, I do have a problem with nationalist Greek leaders though...
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:32 pm

turkish_cypriot wrote:My grandad couldnt speak Turkish till he moved to Lefkoşa from Karpaz many years ago...he was really smart and ended up learning Turkish and became a literature teacher. He wrote quite a few books but he could speak Greek fluently till the day he died. When his sister would come to visit us in Lefkoşa they preffered to speak Greek.

I have no problem with Greek people, I do have a problem with nationalist Greek leaders though...

Hi T_C, which corps did they end up shoving you in or is it some special temp thing they've set up for you short-term guys?
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