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[iceman]

T_C there is no way you can compare service done 24 months and the service you are doing...The one you are going through is a joke & purely designed to make money for the army..

F**K THAT!!!!!!
Still, it was supposed to be ''a joke'' where we dont do nothing but because theres quite a lot of people doing bedelli this year we're not exactly chilling...we're out in the sun THE WHOLE f****g day, running around like lunatics!!!
I know what you mean though, my dayı had to do his military service for TEN YEARS because of the war. Gece nöbet dutardı, sabahada lisesine giderdi...

When we were on holiday in Side Turkey the conscripts were being used to provide cheap labour clearing beaches etc for the hotel complex where we were staying, the commanding officer was receiving backhanders from the owner of the complex who just happened to be a member of parliament

Cheap labour is not the word for it...should be free labour
This is a common practice in Turkish army to use soldiers as free labour,be it for army or public civilian use..
Keeps them busy and most the time they dont complain because its time off from training and away from their camp

[DT.]

unfortunately Natalia as long as 37% of our country is under turkish occupation we need to serve in the army. I think the majority of us understood and accepted this, there is a 1-2% of GC youths mostly of an extreme left or anarchist ideology that do not want it nor accept it.

Aha Mr Iceman...Natalia asked us of our opinion and i have provided. I accept the national service because of the occupation. Had we not been in this state i would buy/lie/cheat to get out of it.

[iceman]

unfortunately Natalia as long as 37% of our country is under turkish occupation we need to serve in the army. I think the majority of us understood and accepted this, there is a 1-2% of GC youths mostly of an extreme left or anarchist ideology that do not want it nor accept it.

Aha Mr Iceman...Natalia asked us of our opinion and i have provided. I accept the national service because of the occupation. Had we not been in this state i would buy/lie/cheat to get out of it.

and i would not blame you for it...
My point was,there was compulsory military service for GC youth before 1974 and it is an outcome of the events of 1974.

[SN]

unfortunately Natalia as long as 37% of our country is under turkish occupation we need to serve in the army. I think the majority of us understood and accepted this, there is a 1-2% of GC youths mostly of an extreme left or anarchist ideology that do not want it nor accept it.

Aha Mr Iceman...Natalia asked us of our opinion and i have provided. I accept the national service because of the occupation. Had we not been in this state i would buy/lie/cheat to get out of it.

I agree,yet it is outrageous to do the military in Cyprus for more than 2 years(if i am not mistaken).
What is the time for the TC?

In general i am against compulsory military service in Greece(12 months),for Cyprus i am 50%-50% due to the occupation.

If i am supposed to be an equal citizen to women as the constitution says(In Greece),shouldnt also female citizens do it compulsory as well???

[iceman]

What is the time for the TC?

It is 24 months and boys as young as 17 are signed up for the compulsory service if they are not studying..
University graduates upon finishing their studies go through an exam when entering the army..
If they are successful they do12 months as an officer (office hours with reasonably good pay)
If they dont pass the exam they do 12 months full time as a sergeant (no pay)

[oranos64]

GREEK CYPRIOT NATIONAL SERVICE IS A WASTE OF TIME ,the soldiers learn nothing and do nothing but guard duty in the infantry ...the mechanised units study and practise basic mannuvers ...the LOK ..basically do the same training as U.S infrantry units but are label commandos as they "actually train"
I am studying the U.N FM systems at the moment and i can see the problems here ...the army in cyprus has no discipline ,...whiney kids who are mainly unift ..fed shite food ..taught nothing of hygiene and nothing of real close combat ..i served and trained for a little while for the UK .... the boy scouts are better trained that the average soldier in the army ....
the army in cyprus needs to become professional ,teach men how to be men ,teach them how to be self sufficienet and confident ..and last for 1 year thats all
the other 5000 troops should be officers ....
but i must say the standards of some of the senior officers who are professional and i respect them ...

[Get Real!]

GREEK CYPRIOT NATIONAL SERVICE IS A WASTE OF TIME ,the soldiers learn nothing and do nothing but guard duty in the infantry ...the mechanised units study and practise basic mannuvers ...the LOK ..basically do the same training as U.S infrantry units but are label commandos as they "actually train"
I am studying the U.N FM systems at the moment and i can see the problems here ...the army in cyprus has no discipline ,...whiney kids who are mainly unift ..fed shite food ..taught nothing of hygiene and nothing of real close combat ..i served and trained for a little while for the UK .... the boy scouts are better trained that the average soldier in the army ....
the army in cyprus needs to become professional ,teach men how to be men ,teach them how to be self sufficienet and confident ..and last for 1 year thats all
the other 5000 troops should be officers ....
but i must say the standards of some of the senior officers who are professional and i respect them ...

Where did you actually serve and which corps?

[Southerner]

GREEK CYPRIOT NATIONAL SERVICE IS A WASTE OF TIME ,the soldiers learn nothing and do nothing but guard duty in the infantry ...the mechanised units study and practise basic mannuvers ...the LOK ..basically do the same training as U.S infrantry units but are label commandos as they "actually train"
I am studying the U.N FM systems at the moment and i can see the problems here ...the army in cyprus has no discipline ,...whiney kids who are mainly unift ..fed shite food ..taught nothing of hygiene and nothing of real close combat ..i served and trained for a little while for the UK .... the boy scouts are better trained that the average soldier in the army ....
the army in cyprus needs to become professional ,teach men how to be men ,teach them how to be self sufficienet and confident ..and last for 1 year thats all
the other 5000 troops should be officers ....
but i must say the standards of some of the senior officers who are professional and i respect them ...

Where did you actually serve and which corps?

Where did you actually serve and which corps?

[Get Real!]

GREEK CYPRIOT NATIONAL SERVICE IS A WASTE OF TIME ,the soldiers learn nothing and do nothing but guard duty in the infantry ...the mechanised units study and practise basic mannuvers ...the LOK ..basically do the same training as U.S infrantry units but are label commandos as they "actually train"
I am studying the U.N FM systems at the moment and i can see the problems here ...the army in cyprus has no discipline ,...whiney kids who are mainly unift ..fed shite food ..taught nothing of hygiene and nothing of real close combat ..i served and trained for a little while for the UK .... the boy scouts are better trained that the average soldier in the army ....
the army in cyprus needs to become professional ,teach men how to be men ,teach them how to be self sufficienet and confident ..and last for 1 year thats all
the other 5000 troops should be officers ....
but i must say the standards of some of the senior officers who are professional and i respect them ...

Where did you actually serve and which corps?

Where did you actually serve and which corps?

I've answered your question in... "patriotism" ???

[paliometoxo]

Hello everyone

I am just wondering what your views are on the compulsory military service to the greek Cypriot army. What do young men actually feel about going to serve? I have a friend who is 18 and has to serve for the 26 months before coming to study here in the UK. To me, it just seems so unfair that he must take 2 years out of his life in such a way – but presumably all greek Cypriot teenagers will grow up knowing that this is something that they will have to do.

What do you all think?

Also, what is it actually like for young men (18 / 19 yrs old) to serve in the army? I mean do they have regular contact with their friends and family eg, telephone, internet, emails etc??? and what about their families/friends/girlfriends? How do they feel about this?

I am just curious to know really. If anyone has any views on this or has had the experience of serving the army recently, I would really like to hear your views.

Many thanks,
Natalia

With the army in the south of cyprus they send you leters through the post.. and when you turn 18 they let you know when to go in.. its basically 1 month of training in pafos then depending on what you are going to do you are taken to different camps around cyprus in lemesos kornos pafos maybe.. your not allowed out for 2 or 3 weeks then every week you re allowed to leave the camp for 2 or 3 days if you are lucky and can go home or do whatever you like for the 3 days. i think the service is for 24 months now.. when my dad was in the army it was 3 years.. so on hiss days off he can easily talk to you on email.. but in the camp alot of the people they carry their phones so as long as he has credit he can txt u ;p

with 40.0000 troops in the north i think its needed.. but i think its a waist of 2 years of your life you coul dbe in college getting educated instead of in the army then you have to wait longer... plus a lot of people get out of going to the army through medical problems and such excuses..

i was one of the lucky ones to have been born and lived in uk so even though i have 2 cypriot -greek perants i dont have to do army .. thank god
but i still know all about it from cousins infact i was going to join the army until they told only if i want to

so think of it as him going to boarding school when they only get out on the weekend heh.. but int he camp he will only have his mobile phone.

all this war and army is waist of time its stupid if u ask me..

p.s the guy who said about agia napa... well agia napa is full of english anyway lol;p and russians and tourists not many cypriots go there