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Is this GC or TC propaganda

Postby Ghandi » Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:19 pm

This was sent to me by a TC what do you all think?


To be a Turkish Cypriot. What does it mean?

To me it means a lot. Through my experiences I think that Cypriots are good people. They are family people, respectful and polite people. I think that there history has elements of tragedy yet they are childlike in there honesty and attempt to be good to people.

The hospitality that is known for does not do justice to the uniqueness of this wonderful race of people. This race that will one day disappear. Many of us in many different countries around the world are losing what it means to be a Cypriot.

The people who are in Cyprus know of their uniqueness yet day by day it disappears. They live in a country where they are a minority. A country were in times of protest the crowd chants Turkiye a country were certain places the Cypriot fails to venture because it is full of settlers


I understand that The Turkish army is there because of certain reasons and so are the settlers. This occupation and it can only be called one if the majority on the North call it one is leading to a melting away of a culture.

Many people emigrate from the country because they need to advance in a country with more opputtunities.The has many Btits, Turks and Kurds. If the country stays unrecognized the new generation will also leave and the old one will die.

The Cypriot and Cyprus of the past will one day just be a page in a history book. The people of Cyprus live there lives as the easy going people they are. Living for the day. There lives of coffee, kebabs and money. Many have money through Greek Cypriot land through the business of the settlers and the money that Turkey gives.

There are reasons for this I know but they are all short term. If we continue selling other peoples land then if I was a GC I would find it difficult to want to reach a settlement. If we live off Turkeys land then they will continue to own us financially, emotionally and culturally. If our survival depends on other races then what will happen to our own race.

Many of the people on his land are just trying to live to have the best life they and there family can have. There agendas are not for the betterment of their country or its future.

One day we will all die and out lives will become a story. In this preoccupation with today when we look back on the lives of these people will we realize that of course they had there personal relationships but that on a wider scale what it all meant is that they were the ones that lost a truly unique and beautiful part of the world

Cypriots are sensitive enough to realize this and I am sure that this will resonate in many. I know that there plight is difficult as it is dealing with very strong powers and circumstances. They are just surviving in the place that they are in.

At least these people have stayed in the country through its hard times. Many have left and for good reason. These people must realize that the country that they sometimes visit. There unique nature that they hold with some pride will one day be gone .Through incorporation into another culture, through not having a place with they have an interest in visiting, through there apathy or opinions on goverernments and politics and the wrongs of the Greek Cypriots.

Many will realize how sad this is but human nature will mean that there comfort zone will be of more importance then a tragedy.

The Greeks aid no to the Anan plan but they had there reasons. They may not want to have dialogue with our government and again they have there reasons. The world may not recognize us or have agendas in keeping the Island divided. I am not here to write about that this has been written about for 35 years. In this time a culture has ceased to grow and is now disappearing.

I am saying that something besides talking politics needs to be done. This has not worked. We cannot wait for the world or even for the GC to change things. Maybe its time that we just give what they want without expecting anything in return. Why don’t we change as people and be the first to give something for nothing. What do we have to lose nothing because we are already losing it anyway

As Cypriots we are known for our hospitality, we are nice honest and polite natured. We are unique because of this. We must be the change the we want to see in the gc.To save a life we do not stop after we just ask someone to stop we must plead,cry,beg.Whatever it takes to save this life. Should it not be the same for a culture?
If we are all a story when we die then the good nature of our people deserves an ending that fits our special nature. Not all endings are happy but at least give us an ending that gives the world a glimpse of the goodness in this very special race of people. We are at the moment losing this game of survival and may lose no matter what we do. Maybe its time to accept that if we are going to lose everything then at least let us learn that even in a loss we can win if we are more proud of our good nature then our easy going one.

Cuba has had it tough. Embargos and Opprssion.They still sit in the world with one of the best education and health systems. What have we given what have we done with our struggle. Why are there are no Gandhi’s or Mandela’s from this struggle. Where is the art or the creativity or vision? What we have given is limited because unlike these other struggles we have no ideology, no philosophy and no long term vision I think its time that we stop to and find our own peace and acceptance with the past and the present. Then we can stand tall as Cypriots and fight to have a future were we may truly be alive or at the very least it will give us a chance for a story that showcases an honesty and generosity of spirit that gives all of our stories a little more meaning.

Maybe the modern world has taken some of our purity. Maybe the cult of he individual and capitalism means that the tc cannot and doesn’t want to live with these morals. I think I may be mixing up our easy going nature with my own Cypriot cultural Utopia. Even so we must all accept that what we will lose we will never gain back and this should make us all hang our heads in shame.

.This piece is limited as I only talk about half the island and I have not calculated how this may be used politically. I have no political agenda and ask that the reader realizes that the survival of the Cypriot people should humble any political agenda. With open arms I am a passionate Cypriot my fist full of dirt I slowly open my grip to survive..

My philosophy, my ideology is best summed up by Oscar Wilde when he said

“A map of the world that does not include Utopia is not worth even glancing at, for it leaves out the one country at which Humanity is always landing.”
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Postby Ghandi » Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:20 pm

Is this GC or TC propaganda ?
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Postby souroul » Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:35 pm

i've only read a third and i'd say its coming from a TC, but how is it propaganda?

im too lazy to read the rest

cliffnotes anyone?
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Postby DT. » Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:43 pm

Its a TC who's had enough....You wouldn't think some TC's would feel like this talking with VP.
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Postby T_C » Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:44 pm

Good piece and it doesnt sound like propaganda...I agree with most of the things it says but I would still feel uneasy living with Tpapa or anyone like him as my president.
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Postby growuptcs » Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:09 pm

Everyone had enough of this mess. Unity has different meanings to TC's and GC's. TC's just want to violate GC's rights to their homes till this mess is all over and even afterwards. Until they shake off having a takers mentality, nothing will change. GC's know they won't change their tune and the TC"s vice-versa. Its a battle of will. Thats why no nation wants to shoot down either sides will, but they know who has the legal battle favor. Turkey has the upperhand in the military battle, but their is no battle. Turkey just has to stop flexing her arms constantly and sit down like a human being, not like someone who came out of jail for fifty years. I cant see the end because Turkey is convinced that N.Cyprus is hers, when I got loads of deeds right here in my house.
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Postby SN » Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:25 pm

Why is that propaganda?

It's a depiction of how a TC views his country and the future of his race.
Also a depiction of the international isolation they face.

I dont know if he is right about the TC going extinct in the future,what i do believe is that this division must not stand.
I dont know whether the TC or the GC will compromise something,if anything.

The GC seem adamant in not wanting to compromise and the TC are pressured bsc of their isolation.So the GC will not likely back down.

Hopefully the next agreement will bring an end to this division which is a disgrace both for the Greek and Turkish nation.

As growuptcs said,it is a battle of will....
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:52 pm

The article is NOT propaganda. It is a "from the heart" statement of a TC.

I don't know how much it reflects the views of majority of TCs, but I can tell for sure it does reflect the views of certain TCs.

I said many times the TCs have done FATAL mistakes over the years. The first fatal mistake was their Taksim dream, the second the settlers, the third the selling of GC properties to foreigners.
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Postby iceman » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:02 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:I said many times the TCs have done FATAL mistakes over the years. The first fatal mistake was their Taksim dream, the second the settlers, the third the selling of GC properties to foreigners.


How about the fatal mistakes of GC's? would you like to list some of them also or shall i?
We know by now,blaming the other side got us no where till now,the fact is,WE both made fatal mistakes and unless WE both start admitting them WE will not achieve any progress..
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:17 pm

iceman wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:I said many times the TCs have done FATAL mistakes over the years. The first fatal mistake was their Taksim dream, the second the settlers, the third the selling of GC properties to foreigners.


How about the fatal mistakes of GC's? would you like to list some of them also or shall i?
We know by now,blaming the other side got us no where till now,the fact is,WE both made fatal mistakes and unless WE both start admitting them WE will not achieve any progress..

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