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Postby Kikapu » Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:45 pm

bigOz wrote:
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bigOz wrote:The training camp is on the coast and we did go in for a dip (in the rocks). However you do not get much time whilst training. At the time we could get one weekend off per month. Also, the family members can come and visit you at the picnic site inside the camp every weekend, bring food and drinks too.

I suggest spring time rather than the summer one. The mosquitoes in summer are terrible!


This may be a stupid question but, do you get paid while training 1month or 3 months.

Do you get to eat and sleep in some tent or barracks, or do you go home some place near by arranged by the individual.

I'm beginning to sound like Goldy Hawn in "Private Benjamin" movie. :lol:

"Where are the Condos and Swimming pools......I'm in the wrong Army....I was promised something else" :lol: :lol:

The training camp is a huge open area on the coastline, trees, football pitch (earth), barracks and a shooting range. It also has a canteen, restaurant - eating area and sleeping accommodation (dormitory). But you get so tired you don't care where you sleep. You get paid few pounds a month but nothing much really. When I was there we could sometimes order and buy kebabs and stuff from outside. If one tried their hardest, they would not be able to spend more than £20 a week anyway.

After the training of 1 month, if you are doing 3 months service, you are allocated to an area by a draw. It can be any of the camps on the beaches, mountains, or towns. I was in Nicosia in Kaymakli, and our camp was were the junior school was (the one you mention in your other post). I was lucky because it was like a 4 STAR HOTEL! Very clean, new dormitory and close to town centre. During those next 2 moths, you will spend more time training, attending shooting ranges, various camouflage and night warfare tactics, jogging couple of miles every morning and attending military exercises.

You are allowed home one weekend a month only unless you come up with a good excuse such as a family wedding, or another special family occasion. Otherwise you are confined to the military camp (which is huge in that part). It is obviously harder and sometimes boring with the added 2 months, but can still be fun with the right company!


Something to think about for sure. Thanks all the same for the info.

If Bir and Zan come along, we can definitely form our own "old timers" unit. :lol:
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Postby T_C » Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:46 pm

Im having a great time in the army! :D

There are quite a few older people too and apart from moaning for the first few days even they've settled in. Sometimes it really sucks (we're outside in the sun from 6am till 5PM!!!) but its SUCH a laugh.

The location is BEAUTIFULL! Its literally ON THE BEACH in Mağusa! Can see Marash from there and might even get the chance to walk through it next week... :wink:

I would reccomend you come TRNC JUST to do your military.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:59 pm

turkish_cypriot wrote:Im having a great time in the army! :D

There are quite a few older people too and apart from moaning for the first few days even they've settled in. Sometimes it really sucks (we're outside in the sun from 6am till 5PM!!!) but its SUCH a laugh.

The location is BEAUTIFULL! Its literally ON THE BEACH in Mağusa! Can see Marash from there and might even get the chance to walk through it next week... :wink:

I would reccomend you come TRNC JUST to do your military.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


T_C,

I want a full report "on the double" as soon as you get back to the UK on the military service as well as general day to day life in the "TRNC".

Keep your head down. Don't trust these old guys with a gun in their shaky hands. :lol: :lol:
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:02 am

humanist wrote:Bir, I don't know what sort of shop they run in the trnc in terms the turkish army, but the national guard in the south doesn't give you a minute to piss let along go off and meet your mates from the forum. I much rather meet you and have coffee all day tlking about how we can solve this problem as the politicians are incapable ......... OOOOpppppps I am going to be challenged on my coment, for how dare I have the arrogance to think I can offer some ideas towards a solution.:)


I was a bit tongue-in-cheek with my suggestion,dear humanist,as I do not think for one minute they would allow us to video our life in the training camp...The best we can hope is to write a realistic screenplay afterwards...You are right however..The politicians are unable and unwilling to solve Cyprob. It is in their interests to keep things as they are...The present crop of politicians would not last a minute in a reunited Cyprus...The solution will not come from them of from any outside place/power...The solution will come when people from ground up agree on and demand one specific solution...But since noone is working on such a solution,we should not hold our breath...Our 3 months would probably be better spend if we all got together in Cyprus,and looked for ways to agitate for a just and lasting solution....If nothing else we would have lots of fun,bond and make friends with each other for life... :D
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Postby humanist » Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:14 am

kikapu said
Something to think about for sure. Thanks all the same for the info.

If Bir and Zan come along, we can definitely form our own "old timers" unit.


Kikapu seriously would you be able to go to war and firght against greek speaking cypriots, if it came to it. I certainly could not fight against any of you guys on the forum even the ones I do not like.

Brikibrisli, I think it would be fun to catch up with your and kikapu, DT, Get real, T_C (although by the time they let him out he would have probably turned towards hate of the greek speaking cyp's ....... I better watch out :wink:), lena, whom I haven't seen for a while, DA etc. :) :) :) :)
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Postby T_C » Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:37 am

Even though I'm getting brainwashed I have disinfectant in the form of some of you guys :wink:

We're not tought to hate Greeks though, I was quite suprised actually...they just tell us that we cant give up on Cyprus till the very last Turkish soldier is dead... :? I dont know if that makes you feel better but they honestly very rarely mention Greeks...only when we watched videos about 63-74.

I dont think this is the case for the 15 monthers though.
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Postby humanist » Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:32 am

phew! :wink: :lol: thats a relief :lol:
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Postby DT. » Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:38 am

turkish_cypriot wrote:Even though I'm getting brainwashed I have disinfectant in the form of some of you guys :wink:

We're not tought to hate Greeks though, I was quite suprised actually...they just tell us that we cant give up on Cyprus till the very last Turkish soldier is dead... :? I dont know if that makes you feel better but they honestly very rarely mention Greeks...only when we watched videos about 63-74.

I dont think this is the case for the 15 monthers though.


:lol: don't worry about it Turkish_Cypriot. We'll re-program you with a couple of Single Malts when you come over.
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Postby Kikapu » Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:23 pm

humanist wrote:kikapu said
Something to think about for sure. Thanks all the same for the info.

If Bir and Zan come along, we can definitely form our own "old timers" unit.


Kikapu seriously would you be able to go to war and firght against greek speaking cypriots, if it came to it. I certainly could not fight against any of you guys on the forum even the ones I do not like.

Brikibrisli, I think it would be fun to catch up with your and kikapu, DT, Get real, T_C (although by the time they let him out he would have probably turned towards hate of the greek speaking cyp's ....... I better watch out :wink:), lena, whom I haven't seen for a while, DA etc. :) :) :) :)


Humanist, hold on one darn minute here. :lol:

Who's talking about going to war and killing GC's. We are just talking about playing "weekend soldiers" here.

But since you asked the question, I'll give you a direct answer.

I can only kill in self defence and not for any other reason. If I was told by some commanding officer to attack and kill any GC's, I would not do it. In another words, I will not take part in a "unilateral attack" on anyone. If attacked, I'll defend myself and those around me, but will not make the first move. I will tell the military, that I want to be an "conscientious objector" on any "unilateral attack", as in what the USA did in Iraq. I would have told George Bush to go FUCK himself. I would have ended up in jail, but that would have been better than killing senselessly, or being killed senselessly.

Besides, I don't hate anyone Humanist, not even Zan and VP, and I've had the harshest verbal fight with those two to last me 10 lifetimes. I have never in my life had such fights with anyone, as those two, and all in the last six months. Hopefully we will have a long "quiet period" now, so that we can talk and not fight.

I have a dream. A dream that one day all Cypriots will come together and join hands to be the masters of their own country and future, in unity as Cypriot brothers and sisters.

(I stole the phrase from Martin Luther King)
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:08 pm

I have no doubt ,dear Kikapu and dear humanist,that Cypriots one day will become the masters of their own country,and live together in peace and harmony,enjoying freedom,democracy and posperity...If we look back at History,no invader or occupier had ever managed to rule Cyprus forever,or ethnically cleans the Cypriot nation permanently....Cypriots will manage to shake off the latest occupiers (The British,the Americans,the Greeks and the Turks) and reunite their country sooner or later...Lets hope we will live long enough to see it... 8) 8) :) :)
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