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Merkel calls Greek Cyprus' EU membership mistake

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Postby MR-from-NG » Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:32 pm

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pantheman wrote:What ever merkel said or didn't say, i'll add a new dimension to this thread, I'm with Sarkosky, France, Turkey can go kiss my arse, she ain't getting in. Cyprus or no cyprus, its just a very small fish compared to the EU. Turkey is not in europe, does not belong in europe and should not be allowed to get into europe. The Cypro and EU are two different entities, one could care less about the other.

Bottom line is, cyprus is in :lol: , and turkey is out, and will stay out :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Is that good enough for you ? Simple plain no IQs necessary to understand? roll on.


Pantheman, please explain what happens with the Cyprob if Turkey does not get into the EU.

I don't have the IQ to assess the situation so I'm asking you 8) 8)


Very good progress, msfromng! Excellent!

It is probably the first time I have seen you making an emotionally intelligent, reasonable, decent and logical observation and comment in this forum, and I am very glad for this! Keep it up!

The ball is now in Pantheman's court!


honestly, after 33 years of being held prisoners in our own country, it doesn't matter anymore (not to me anyway), We, alone cannot take on the might of turkey (regardless of what people might say) but i'd rather we lost it this way then to have to lose it AND pay for it, if you get my gist.

One never knows what the futrue brings, and turkey in the EU is no guarantee that cyprus will be free anyway, proof, they (turkey) won't recognise the RoC, they won't open ports and airports, their military calls the shots over the elected governments etc etc. I would be more worried with turkey as a member than a non member. She doesn't listen to anyone now, why should it be any different if she gets in ?

Is that simple enough for you, or should I break it down further?? :wink:


Thanks for your honest response Pantheman. Your explanation is well understood (even with my low IQ) and is not far from the truth.

You say you could never be a match to the might of Turkey. Your fellow Greeks will not like that. Kifeas might accuse you of having a low IQ :lol: :lol:
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Postby DT. » Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:25 pm

mrfromng wrote:
pantheman wrote:
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mrfromng wrote:
pantheman wrote:What ever merkel said or didn't say, i'll add a new dimension to this thread, I'm with Sarkosky, France, Turkey can go kiss my arse, she ain't getting in. Cyprus or no cyprus, its just a very small fish compared to the EU. Turkey is not in europe, does not belong in europe and should not be allowed to get into europe. The Cypro and EU are two different entities, one could care less about the other.

Bottom line is, cyprus is in :lol: , and turkey is out, and will stay out :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Is that good enough for you ? Simple plain no IQs necessary to understand? roll on.


Pantheman, please explain what happens with the Cyprob if Turkey does not get into the EU.

I don't have the IQ to assess the situation so I'm asking you 8) 8)


Very good progress, msfromng! Excellent!

It is probably the first time I have seen you making an emotionally intelligent, reasonable, decent and logical observation and comment in this forum, and I am very glad for this! Keep it up!

The ball is now in Pantheman's court!


honestly, after 33 years of being held prisoners in our own country, it doesn't matter anymore (not to me anyway), We, alone cannot take on the might of turkey (regardless of what people might say) but i'd rather we lost it this way then to have to lose it AND pay for it, if you get my gist.

One never knows what the futrue brings, and turkey in the EU is no guarantee that cyprus will be free anyway, proof, they (turkey) won't recognise the RoC, they won't open ports and airports, their military calls the shots over the elected governments etc etc. I would be more worried with turkey as a member than a non member. She doesn't listen to anyone now, why should it be any different if she gets in ?

Is that simple enough for you, or should I break it down further?? :wink:


Thanks for your honest response Pantheman. Your explanation is well understood (even with my low IQ) and is not far from the truth.

You say you could never be a match to the might of Turkey. Your fellow Greeks will not like that. Kifeas might accuse you of having a low IQ :lol: :lol:


no one in their right mind is saying that we are a match for Turkey. Just a few guys who are talking out of frustration cause they want their homes that got taken from them back. Can't really blame them, I go through these waves of anger and frustration sometime...

You talk of problems that happened before...we stare ours every single day...and when it gets dark you light up a flag on pandaktylos so that we can still be reminded of it.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:31 pm

Then DT why not try to win the TCs over to your side, encourage cooperation and a sense that we to belong to a united Cyprus? Your current leader is doing the opposite and he has sucessfully alienated TCs even further, it will take a lot of work to get TCs to turn their boat around as it sails firmly in Turkeys direction.
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Postby DT. » Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:35 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Then DT why not try to win the TCs over to your side, encourage cooperation and a sense that we to belong to a united Cyprus? Your current leader is doing the opposite and he has sucessfully alienated TCs even further, it will take a lot of work to get TCs to turn their boat around as it sails firmly in Turkeys direction.


we'll take care of our own leader VP don't worry. Its not our job to woo anyone. You on the other hand can start by taking down some uselss provocative gestures such as your cabaret by night show on pendadaktylos. Then you might make life a little easier towards some of the harder working GC's trying to turn this thing around.
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Postby Kifeas » Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:35 pm

pantheman wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
mrfromng wrote:
pantheman wrote:What ever merkel said or didn't say, i'll add a new dimension to this thread, I'm with Sarkosky, France, Turkey can go kiss my arse, she ain't getting in. Cyprus or no cyprus, its just a very small fish compared to the EU. Turkey is not in europe, does not belong in europe and should not be allowed to get into europe. The Cypro and EU are two different entities, one could care less about the other.

Bottom line is, cyprus is in :lol: , and turkey is out, and will stay out :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Is that good enough for you ? Simple plain no IQs necessary to understand? roll on.


Pantheman, please explain what happens with the Cyprob if Turkey does not get into the EU.

I don't have the IQ to assess the situation so I'm asking you 8) 8)


Very good progress, msfromng! Excellent!

It is probably the first time I have seen you making an emotionally intelligent, reasonable, decent and logical observation and comment in this forum, and I am very glad for this! Keep it up!

The ball is now in Pantheman's court!


honestly, after 33 years of being held prisoners in our own country, it doesn't matter anymore (not to me anyway), We, alone cannot take on the might of turkey (regardless of what people might say) but i'd rather we lost it this way then to have to lose it AND pay for it, if you get my gist.

One never knows what the futrue brings, and turkey in the EU is no guarantee that cyprus will be free anyway, proof, they (turkey) won't recognise the RoC, they won't open ports and airports, their military calls the shots over the elected governments etc etc. I would be more worried with turkey as a member than a non member. She doesn't listen to anyone now, why should it be any different if she gets in ?

Is that simple enough for you, or should I break it down further?? :wink:


Pantheman, I was always wandering why you have chosen this avatar, and what message you want to send with it. Eventually, I have come to conclusion that your avatar is a reflection of your psyche! It is a reflection of your abysmal psyche! The psyche of a demoralised, surrendered and corrupted mind! As devilish and demonised as the avatar you have chosen!
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Postby pantheman » Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:58 pm

Kifeas wrote:
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mrfromng wrote:
pantheman wrote:What ever merkel said or didn't say, i'll add a new dimension to this thread, I'm with Sarkosky, France, Turkey can go kiss my arse, she ain't getting in. Cyprus or no cyprus, its just a very small fish compared to the EU. Turkey is not in europe, does not belong in europe and should not be allowed to get into europe. The Cypro and EU are two different entities, one could care less about the other.

Bottom line is, cyprus is in :lol: , and turkey is out, and will stay out :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Is that good enough for you ? Simple plain no IQs necessary to understand? roll on.


Pantheman, please explain what happens with the Cyprob if Turkey does not get into the EU.

I don't have the IQ to assess the situation so I'm asking you 8) 8)


Very good progress, msfromng! Excellent!

It is probably the first time I have seen you making an emotionally intelligent, reasonable, decent and logical observation and comment in this forum, and I am very glad for this! Keep it up!

The ball is now in Pantheman's court!


honestly, after 33 years of being held prisoners in our own country, it doesn't matter anymore (not to me anyway), We, alone cannot take on the might of turkey (regardless of what people might say) but i'd rather we lost it this way then to have to lose it AND pay for it, if you get my gist.

One never knows what the futrue brings, and turkey in the EU is no guarantee that cyprus will be free anyway, proof, they (turkey) won't recognise the RoC, they won't open ports and airports, their military calls the shots over the elected governments etc etc. I would be more worried with turkey as a member than a non member. She doesn't listen to anyone now, why should it be any different if she gets in ?

Is that simple enough for you, or should I break it down further?? :wink:


Pantheman, I was always wandering why you have chosen this avatar, and what message you want to send with it. Eventually, I have come to conclusion that your avatar is a reflection of your psyche! It is a reflection of your abysmal psyche! The psyche of a demoralised, surrendered and corrupted mind! As devilish and demonised as the avatar you have chosen!


Kifeas, not sure what you are trying say mate, avatar or not, still don't get it. I have obviously said something to offend you ? But I spoke as I see it. The reality is unless you can mass breed 500,000 soldiers overnight, get yourself 100 F-16s, 2000, tanks, 100 warships you know and i know we don't have a dogs chance in hell as they say of taking on turkey. Sometimes you have to swallow that bitter pill. Sadly, cyprus is a very small nation and turkey a very big one. Make no mistake, mate i would be one of the first in line if it ever came down to that, but the truth is, we would just be delaying the inevitable.

Now unless you also have some other secret weapon, theres no point in shooting your mouth off about the balance of power, who the F, is gonna give that power to us. Unless you can convince me on that front, my statement still stands.

As I have not really said much else, i have assumed that thats what has upset you. I'm not looking for a fight here, so please mind what you say to me or try to accuse me of, but i spoke for myself, i am entiltled to that.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:55 pm

DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Then DT why not try to win the TCs over to your side, encourage cooperation and a sense that we to belong to a united Cyprus? Your current leader is doing the opposite and he has sucessfully alienated TCs even further, it will take a lot of work to get TCs to turn their boat around as it sails firmly in Turkeys direction.


we'll take care of our own leader VP don't worry. Its not our job to woo anyone. You on the other hand can start by taking down some uselss provocative gestures such as your cabaret by night show on pendadaktylos. Then you might make life a little easier towards some of the harder working GC's trying to turn this thing around.


Are we playing tit for tat again? then as soon as you take down the all that rubbish at ledra palace then we cna do the same. You miss the point totally it obvious to everyone your intentions are not sharing but domination of TCs.
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Postby DT. » Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:11 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:Then DT why not try to win the TCs over to your side, encourage cooperation and a sense that we to belong to a united Cyprus? Your current leader is doing the opposite and he has sucessfully alienated TCs even further, it will take a lot of work to get TCs to turn their boat around as it sails firmly in Turkeys direction.


we'll take care of our own leader VP don't worry. Its not our job to woo anyone. You on the other hand can start by taking down some uselss provocative gestures such as your cabaret by night show on pendadaktylos. Then you might make life a little easier towards some of the harder working GC's trying to turn this thing around.


Are we playing tit for tat again? then as soon as you take down the all that rubbish at ledra palace then we cna do the same. You miss the point totally it obvious to everyone your intentions are not sharing but domination of TCs.


its getting quite funny when you drop into your world domination phase. All of a sudden while we're talking you start hallucinating that i'm darth vader.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:54 pm

DT. wrote:
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DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Then DT why not try to win the TCs over to your side, encourage cooperation and a sense that we to belong to a united Cyprus? Your current leader is doing the opposite and he has sucessfully alienated TCs even further, it will take a lot of work to get TCs to turn their boat around as it sails firmly in Turkeys direction.


we'll take care of our own leader VP don't worry. Its not our job to woo anyone. You on the other hand can start by taking down some uselss provocative gestures such as your cabaret by night show on pendadaktylos. Then you might make life a little easier towards some of the harder working GC's trying to turn this thing around.


Are we playing tit for tat again? then as soon as you take down the all that rubbish at ledra palace then we cna do the same. You miss the point totally it obvious to everyone your intentions are not sharing but domination of TCs.


its getting quite funny when you drop into your world domination phase. All of a sudden while we're talking you start hallucinating that i'm darth vader.


You have just killed any chance of a serious debate, your ancestors also made the same mistake and tried to ignore the TCs..keep up the good work, your are running true to form.
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Postby humanist » Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:07 am

VP what do you suggest we do about the fact that there are nearly three time more Greek speaking Cypriots than Turkish Cypriots on the Island? You keep bringing it back to being dominated by Greek speaking Cypriots. What is your suggestion VP?
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