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Merkel calls Greek Cyprus' EU membership mistake

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Postby MR-from-NG » Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:01 pm

pantheman wrote:What ever merkel said or didn't say, i'll add a new dimension to this thread, I'm with Sarkosky, France, Turkey can go kiss my arse, she ain't getting in. Cyprus or no cyprus, its just a very small fish compared to the EU. Turkey is not in europe, does not belong in europe and should not be allowed to get into europe. The Cypro and EU are two different entities, one could care less about the other.

Bottom line is, cyprus is in :lol: , and turkey is out, and will stay out :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Is that good enough for you ? Simple plain no IQs necessary to understand? roll on.


Pantheman, please explain what happens with the Cyprob if Turkey does not get into the EU.

I don't have the IQ to assess the situation so I'm asking you 8) 8)
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Postby Kifeas » Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:29 pm

mrfromng wrote:
pantheman wrote:What ever merkel said or didn't say, i'll add a new dimension to this thread, I'm with Sarkosky, France, Turkey can go kiss my arse, she ain't getting in. Cyprus or no cyprus, its just a very small fish compared to the EU. Turkey is not in europe, does not belong in europe and should not be allowed to get into europe. The Cypro and EU are two different entities, one could care less about the other.

Bottom line is, cyprus is in :lol: , and turkey is out, and will stay out :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Is that good enough for you ? Simple plain no IQs necessary to understand? roll on.


Pantheman, please explain what happens with the Cyprob if Turkey does not get into the EU.

I don't have the IQ to assess the situation so I'm asking you 8) 8)


Very good progress, msfromng! Excellent!

It is probably the first time I have seen you making an emotionally intelligent, reasonable, decent and logical observation and comment in this forum, and I am very glad for this! Keep it up!

The ball is now in Pantheman's court!
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Postby MR-from-NG » Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:40 pm

Kifeas wrote:
mrfromng wrote:
pantheman wrote:What ever merkel said or didn't say, i'll add a new dimension to this thread, I'm with Sarkosky, France, Turkey can go kiss my arse, she ain't getting in. Cyprus or no cyprus, its just a very small fish compared to the EU. Turkey is not in europe, does not belong in europe and should not be allowed to get into europe. The Cypro and EU are two different entities, one could care less about the other.

Bottom line is, cyprus is in :lol: , and turkey is out, and will stay out :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Is that good enough for you ? Simple plain no IQs necessary to understand? roll on.


Pantheman, please explain what happens with the Cyprob if Turkey does not get into the EU.

I don't have the IQ to assess the situation so I'm asking you 8) 8)


Very good progress, msfromng! Excellent!

It is probably the first time I have seen you making an emotionally intelligent, reasonable, decent and logical observation and comment in this forum, and I am very glad for this! Keep it up!

The ball is now in Pantheman's court!


Kifeas, the village idiot speaks again :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby cypezokyli » Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:56 pm

2 things :

1. mistake or not, we are in the EU. besides, merkel didnot say sth irrational from the point of view of europe. political problems should be solved, before accession, and not become problems of the EU..... actually it is also implicitly directed at turkey

2. another proof, that our diplomacy is failing.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:02 pm

cypezokyli wrote:2 things :

1. mistake or not, we are in the EU.

2. another proof, that our diplomacy is failing.


Watch it cypezokyli, Kifeas might say you have a low IQ :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:24 pm

DT. wrote:
pantheman wrote:What ever merkel said or didn't say, i'll add a new dimension to this thread, I'm with Sarkosky, France, Turkey can go kiss my arse, she ain't getting in. Cyprus or no cyprus, its just a very small fish compared to the EU. Turkey is not in europe, does not belong in europe and should not be allowed to get into europe. The Cypro and EU are two different entities, one could care less about the other.

Bottom line is, cyprus is in :lol: , and turkey is out, and will stay out :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Is that good enough for you ? Simple plain no IQs necessary to understand? roll on.


not so good for us my friend......sarkozy just took our strongest bargaining chip away from us.


Well spotted DT, GCs are so wound up in punishing Turkey that they do not realize that if the EU do not keep Turkey interested it will be the end of the road for the Cyprus problem and we will be annexed to Turkey end of story, is that what you GC want?
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:39 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:not so good for us my friend......sarkozy just took our strongest bargaining chip away from us.

Well spotted DT, GCs are so wound up in punishing Turkey that they do not realize that if the EU do not keep Turkey interested it will be the end of the road for the Cyprus problem and we will be annexed to Turkey end of story, is that what you GC want?

Nobody doubts that Turkey wants to have a part of Cyprus, but the problem doesn’t stop there because the Turkish Cypriots ALSO want to have a part of Cyprus so what difference does it make to the GC’s whether they lose a piece through war or by signing it away?

That is precisely why Tasos Papadopoulos is correct in going for a long-term plan in the hope of liberating Cyprus through changes in the balance of power. Cyprus must do everything she can politically and militarily to upper herself and concurrently lower Turkey as much as possible.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:46 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:not so good for us my friend......sarkozy just took our strongest bargaining chip away from us.

Well spotted DT, GCs are so wound up in punishing Turkey that they do not realize that if the EU do not keep Turkey interested it will be the end of the road for the Cyprus problem and we will be annexed to Turkey end of story, is that what you GC want?

Nobody doubts that Turkey wants to have a part of Cyprus, but the problem doesn’t stop there because the Turkish Cypriots ALSO want to have a part of Cyprus so what difference does it make to the GC’s whether they lose a piece through war or by signing it away?

That is precisely why Tasos Papadopoulos is correct in going for a long-term plan in the hope of liberating Cyprus through changes in the balance of power. Cyprus must do everything she can politically and militarily to upper herself and concurrently lower Turkey as much as possible.


So derailing Turkeys EU hopes and having them stopped and punished is your leaders long term plan? well you really need to think this through as your EU card is your only chance of getting what you want otherwise you are shooting yourselves in the foot yet again, man you guys never change.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:12 pm

Viewpoint wrote:So derailing Turkeys EU hopes and having them stopped and punished is your leaders long term plan? well you really need to think this through as your EU card is your only chance of getting what you want otherwise you are shooting yourselves in the foot yet again, man you guys never change.

Turkey never had any hopes of joining the EU in the first place. If not by her totally different lifestyle than Europe then by the racism of the Christian club; you know it and I know it.

On top of that Turkey’s persistent intentions towards Cyprus were made very clear early on anyways by not complying with agreements she had just signed.

This EU crap is a waste of valuable time and resources. What Cyprus needs is to hire professional Think Tanks to devise a 5 or 10 year plan for the gradual fall of Turkey.
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Postby pantheman » Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:14 pm

Kifeas wrote:
mrfromng wrote:
pantheman wrote:What ever merkel said or didn't say, i'll add a new dimension to this thread, I'm with Sarkosky, France, Turkey can go kiss my arse, she ain't getting in. Cyprus or no cyprus, its just a very small fish compared to the EU. Turkey is not in europe, does not belong in europe and should not be allowed to get into europe. The Cypro and EU are two different entities, one could care less about the other.

Bottom line is, cyprus is in :lol: , and turkey is out, and will stay out :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Is that good enough for you ? Simple plain no IQs necessary to understand? roll on.


Pantheman, please explain what happens with the Cyprob if Turkey does not get into the EU.

I don't have the IQ to assess the situation so I'm asking you 8) 8)


Very good progress, msfromng! Excellent!

It is probably the first time I have seen you making an emotionally intelligent, reasonable, decent and logical observation and comment in this forum, and I am very glad for this! Keep it up!

The ball is now in Pantheman's court!


honestly, after 33 years of being held prisoners in our own country, it doesn't matter anymore (not to me anyway), We, alone cannot take on the might of turkey (regardless of what people might say) but i'd rather we lost it this way then to have to lose it AND pay for it, if you get my gist.

One never knows what the futrue brings, and turkey in the EU is no guarantee that cyprus will be free anyway, proof, they (turkey) won't recognise the RoC, they won't open ports and airports, their military calls the shots over the elected governments etc etc. I would be more worried with turkey as a member than a non member. She doesn't listen to anyone now, why should it be any different if she gets in ?

Is that simple enough for you, or should I break it down further?? :wink:
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