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[Eliko]

miltiades, WHY do you persistently submit the same views on every aspect of the Iraq conflict, if you are right, then there would be no conflict would there?.

It is because the reasons are being concealed and distorted, because the information available is being presented to us in a biased fashion that we are really unaware of what the real problems are.

That is why I seek to discover the root of the problems, I am beginning to understand them through some of the comments, they will soon become clear, when I feel confident enough to express what I think, I will let you know.

[Filitsa]

GorillaGal, I suspect George listens more intently to the military advisers that surround him, he probably also takes a lot of instruction from his father (which a good son should do), I just hope that the new regime, if it is in opposition to his foreign policies, have the courage to admit the follies of their predecessors and try to make some kind of reparation for the awful damage they have done.

Excuse me, Eliko, for butting in, but I need to interject that, if only GWB listened to his military advisors as you suspect he does, perhaps this mess in Iraq would not have metastasized. Politicians have been calling the shots and not the military.

[GorillaGal]

oh filitsa, GWB hasn't a brain in his head. he is just a puppet and does what his advisors tell him.

[miltiades]

miltiades, WHY do you persistently submit the same views on every aspect of the Iraq conflict, if you are right, then there would be no conflict would there?.

It is because the reasons are being concealed and distorted, because the information available is being presented to us in a biased fashion that we are really unaware of what the real problems are.

That is why I seek to discover the root of the problems, I am beginning to understand them through some of the comments, they will soon become clear, when I feel confident enough to express what I think, I will let you know.

Correction !! These are not views , they are facts , big difference. The killings are commited by the insurgents , not the Americans and not the Iraqi security forces. Get it through your head Eliko , if the Insurgents , or as I call them , by their real name the Savages were to stop ttheir daily carnage the conflict would stop overnight, the Iraqi security forces would slowly take control and the Americans would be getting ready to withdraw. Such simple facts that you choose to ignore spurned on as usual by your anti American position.
Just a word for that imputent jackass , Get Lost Malaka.

[miltiades]

Btw, I know all about those annual Greeko community parties they conduct in the diaspora... they start off with a couple of speeches and then everybody wakes up to feast themselves stupid, and last some of the people who can still stand do a few rounds on the dancefloor, and finally you then all go to bed...

Hmm, yeah that should liberate Cyprus!

Get real, although I agree with you on the majority of things you have said about America and the UK’s foreign policy, I cannot agree with you on what you say about the Diaspora GC’s. My Father and many others in our community have been campaigning against the Turkish occupation of Cyprus for years. Since I was a small child I remember going on marches, handing out leaflets in the street, listening to speeches, going to fundraisers, etc.. My father has meetings every week, where they organize marches and petitions, where they try and find every way possible of publicising the Cyprus problem and where they attempt to get local MP’s on board (many times successfully). I have been to London on marches and I am in awe at just how many people there are, young and old, all together to do there bit to try and solve the Cyprus issue, however small a part they play.. I just don’t think it’s fair to suggest that the Greek Cypriots who have moved away, do not care about Cyprus and do nothing to fight for justice…‘Turkish troops out of Cyprus, refugees to return home, and Cyprus to be unified’ basically justice for all Cypriots, that’s the message I’ve grown up with..

Natty , I unfortunately due to events beyond my control , was unable to attend Sundays demonstration .
Commenting further on your above views .
This insolent individual dismisses the efforts of some 250 thousand UK Cypriots , dismisses the efforts and views of anyone over the age of 50 , denigrates anyone that happens to be a musician or indeed anything other than his self inflated ego dictates. He dismisses rudely the efforts that thousands of Cypriots have for years made purely and simply because he ardently believes that the only solution to the Cyprus problem is a war . He believes on enlisting the Black Water mercenaries to assist in taking Turkey out !!He is a first class arrogant , ignorant and a thoroughly brainless individual who although has been extremely rude to me I would never ask for his apology since it would be absolutely meaningless .

[denizaksulu]

[quote="Exorcist-seeker"]Deni: I am being completly real, G W Bush is the most powerful man in the world, who put him there? a christian country did, America!!

In 1990 When G W Bush Senior/ Bill Clinton/ John Major tried to invade iraq why was there no uproar then?? Now Bill Clinton is regarded as 1 of the greatest American Presidents ever.

Theres a war on terrorism, and America for the good of the world are fighting it. Be Thankful you dnt need to ask them to as they automatically knew that it needed to be done.[/quote]


Why is your Bush NOT supporting Turkey against the PKK terrorists?
Bush will pick and choose with impunity.
Regards
DA

[Eliko]

[quote="miltiades".
Correction !! These are not views , they are facts , big difference. The killings are commited by the insurgents , not the Americans and not the Iraqi security forces. Get it through your head Eliko , if the Insurgents , or as I call them , by their real name the Savages were to stop ttheir daily carnage the conflict would stop overnight, the Iraqi security forces would slowly take control and the Americans would be getting ready to withdraw. Such simple facts that you choose to ignore spurned on as usual by your anti American position.
Just a word for that imputent jackass , Get Lost Malaka.[/quote]



miltiades, so according to your 'FACTS', the people of Iraq should just accept the onslaught of the American and British forces, lay down and accept the destruction of their country, encourage the introduction of a new system of government and offer NO resistance to the aggressors
who have murdered countless of their countymen ( women and children) and hand over the control of their lives to the enemies or their land !!.

That is a very strange attitude for you to adopt, I thought you were a bit unhappy about the 'invasion' of your OWN country, perhaps I have been misled by your previous posts.

Or, is it a case of the usual, one law for miltiades and one for everyone else.

The 'Insurgents', 'Savages', 'Terrorists', or whatever name you would like to call them (in accord with the aggressors who would obviously label them such) are the PRODUCT of the unlawful murderous attack upon the innocents of Iraq, there is no justification for it, the world knows that and the aggressors are seeking ANY excuse to extricate themselves from the position they have found themselves in.

Tha Americans will be defeated and it will be the people of Iraq that will do it, despite the might of their foes, WE of course, will be served with the usual political lies when it finally comes to withdrawal, the mighty forces will be too ashamed to admit defeat, they will try to claim some moral victory.

There is neither HATRED nor ALLEGIANCE in any of the above, that can be fairly aimed at ME and I would respectfully request that you desist in you frequent allegations that my views deserve such a stigma, I can only submit my own perceptions.

Best wishes .

[GorillaGal]

Deni: I am being completly real, G W Bush is the most powerful man in the world, who put him there? a christian country did, America!!

In 1990 When G W Bush Senior/ Bill Clinton/ John Major tried to invade iraq why was there no uproar then?? Now Bill Clinton is regarded as 1 of the greatest American Presidents ever.

Theres a war on terrorism, and America for the good of the world are fighting it. Be Thankful you dnt need to ask them to as they automatically knew that it needed to be done.

Why is your Bush NOT supporting Turkey against the PKK terrorists?
Bush will pick and choose with impunity.
Regards
DA

bush IS supporting Turkey, he just hasn't sent troops yet. they are all in iraq, and i don't think anyone (including bush) wants a WW3.

[GorillaGal]

[quote="miltiades".
Correction !! These are not views , they are facts , big difference. The killings are commited by the insurgents , not the Americans and not the Iraqi security forces. Get it through your head Eliko , if the Insurgents , or as I call them , by their real name the Savages were to stop ttheir daily carnage the conflict would stop overnight, the Iraqi security forces would slowly take control and the Americans would be getting ready to withdraw. Such simple facts that you choose to ignore spurned on as usual by your anti American position.
Just a word for that imputent jackass , Get Lost Malaka.

miltiades, so according to your 'FACTS', the people of Iraq should just accept the onslaught of the American and British forces, lay down and accept the destruction of their country, encourage the introduction of a new system of government and offer NO resistance to the aggressors
who have murdered countless of their countymen ( women and children) and hand over the control of their lives to the enemies or their land !!.

That is a very strange attitude for you to adopt, I thought you were a bit unhappy about the 'invasion' of your OWN country, perhaps I have been misled by your previous posts.

Or, is it a case of the usual, one law for miltiades and one for everyone else.

The 'Insurgents', 'Savages', 'Terrorists', or whatever name you would like to call them (in accord with the aggressors who would obviously label them such) are the PRODUCT of the unlawful murderous attack upon the innocents of Iraq, there is no justification for it, the world knows that and the aggressors are seeking ANY excuse to extricate themselves from the position they have found themselves in.

Tha Americans will be defeated and it will be the people of Iraq that will do it, despite the might of their foes, WE of course, will be served with the usual political lies when it finally comes to withdrawal, the mighty forces will be too ashamed to admit defeat, they will try to claim some moral victory.

There is neither HATRED nor ALLEGIANCE in any of the above, that can be fairly aimed at ME and I would respectfully request that you desist in you frequent allegations that my views deserve such a stigma, I can only submit my own perceptions.

Best wishes . [/quote]

i have to agree with miltiades. resistance is futile. they will thank us one day.

[Eliko]

GorillaGal, your comment that 'resistance is futile' is the attitude of a bully.

Well said, for that is exactly how the world is viewing the torment your country has inflicted on a lesser force.

Every drop of blood spilled in the conflict is directly the result of the bullying actions of your country and no amount of political manoeuvering will wash the blood from THEIR hands.