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[humanist]

GG said

i don't get it. you all hate everything about us, but yet you want us to come to your rescue. if we did, would you like us more?

GG I do not hate everything about you. I do not like your governments international policies and the bullying your country appears to perpetrate on smaller nations around the globe.

I merely used the example of Cyprus to illustrate a point that perhaps the conflict in Iraq is is based on oil. My question aain ...if the US trully believes in upholding law of rule and democracy why has it not intervened in the Cyprus case to enforce military power against an invading force (Turkey)?

If you did may be I will change my views on US political decision making. I will then believe that it is not about the oil.

Mark my words the minute oil starts coming out of the waters around Cyprus there will be no Cyprus problem, the US will see to it that the Turks take their military and shove it. Just remembr this is a few years time GG if indeed there is oli in Cyprus waters, there will be no Cyprus problem and remember the US involvement in this. I am not one to come back and say I told you so, I do not wisht to be glorified. Remembert this post for yoruself only to review.

[pitsilos]

oil is a nice benefit, but humanist, whether it is right or wrong, we wouldn't be there at all if it wasn't for the attacks on 9-11. and THAT i can stake my life on.

after all the shit that happened in Iraq, the wool seems to be still over your eyes...was it the presentation at the UN prior to the invasion by powell or the nuclear transfers in Nigeria that made your mind up?...because they made my mind up as soon as they surfaced...

PS...can you clear for me the connection between 9/11 and Iraq?

[Damsi]

The fact the bush admin made plans well before 911 to invade Iraq is no conspiracy theory. This has been in the news for more than two years. Wake up.

"The Bush administration made plans for war and for Iraq's oil before the 9/11 attacks, sparking a policy battle between neo-cons and Big Oil, BBC's Newsnight has revealed.
Two years ago today - when President George Bush announced US, British and Allied forces would begin to bomb Baghdad - protesters claimed the US had a secret plan for Iraq's oil once Saddam had been conquered.

In fact there were two conflicting plans, setting off a hidden policy war between neo-conservatives at the Pentagon, on one side, versus a combination of "Big Oil" executives and US State Department "pragmatists".

"Big Oil" appears to have won. The latest plan, obtained by Newsnight from the US State Department was, we learned, drafted with the help of American oil industry consultants.

Insiders told Newsnight that planning began "within weeks" of Bush's first taking office in 2001, long before the September 11th attack on the US.

An Iraqi-born oil industry consultant, Falah Aljibury, says he took part in the secret meetings in California, Washington and the Middle East. He described a State Department plan for a forced coup d'etat.

Mr Aljibury himself told Newsnight that he interviewed potential successors to Saddam Hussein on behalf of the Bush administration.

Secret sell-off plan

The industry-favoured plan was pushed aside by a secret plan, drafted just before the invasion in 2003, which called for the sell-off of all of Iraq's oil fields. The new plan was crafted by neo-conservatives intent on using Iraq's oil to destroy the Opec cartel through massive increases in production above Opec quotas."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/n ... 354269.stm

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/ ... 0830.shtml

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/ar ... Apr16.html

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/10/oneill.bush/

[denizaksulu]

[quote="Exorcist-seeker"]George W Bush is a prophet of god, He had been sent by the almighty to clean and rid the world of the bad races and the 'Devil Worshipping' people

God bless G W Bush.[/quote]


You get my vote for "Number one wind-up Merchant" . You ought to get real.
Regards
DA

[Exorcist-seeker]

Deni: I am being completly real, G W Bush is the most powerful man in the world, who put him there? a christian country did, America!!

In 1990 When G W Bush Senior/ Bill Clinton/ John Major tried to invade iraq why was there no uproar then?? Now Bill Clinton is regarded as 1 of the greatest American Presidents ever.

Theres a war on terrorism, and America for the good of the world are fighting it. Be Thankful you dnt need to ask them to as they automatically knew that it needed to be done.

[GorillaGal]

if gwb is one of the best presidents ever, how come americans hate him so much?
he was self appointed. he didn't win by populatr vote, and the more he does, the lower his popularity rating goes down. he is alot more of an anti-christ than he is of any messenger of god.

[Exorcist-seeker]

Gorilla re-read what i said, Bill Clinto is regarded as 1 of the greatest Presidents ever!!!

G W Bush is simply a prophet of god himself!

[GorillaGal]

Clinton was definately one of the best, which is why i hope hillary gets in office next term. i figure she has an excellent advisor in her husband, plus alot of white house experience. but GWB is no prophet. both he and his father are two of the WORST presidents in US history.

[denizaksulu]

[quote="GorillaGal"][quote="humanist"]GG, I respect your views on this matter ....... however I hold my belief on this one ...... this situation is based on oil margins and nothing else. If the US believes in justice, fairness, equality and democracy why hasn't it intervened in the Cyprus situation by freeing our lands for the occupation of Turkey? simple answer Cyprus does not have oil yet.[/quote]

i don't get it. you all hate everything about us, but yet you want us to come to your rescue. if we did, would you like us more?[/quote]

For GODS sake, I hope nobody asks the US of b....A for help. Sample the help Iraq gets befor deciding.Regards
DA

[denizaksulu]

[quote="Exorcist-seeker"]Deni: I am being completly real, G W Bush is the most powerful man in the world, who put him there? a christian country did, America!!

In 1990 When G W Bush Senior/ Bill Clinton/ John Major tried to invade iraq why was there no uproar then?? Now Bill Clinton is regarded as 1 of the greatest American Presidents ever.

Theres a war on terrorism, and America for the good of the world are fighting it. Be Thankful you dnt need to ask them to as they automatically knew that it needed to be done.[/quote]


After Bush admitting making an error vis a vis invading Iraq, you still play his trumpet? Common now. I thought you were getting real.
Regards
DA