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Postby Eliko » Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:03 am

miltiades, thank you for your response, I take your points and will consider them.

Our views are at variance in certain areas and I am pleased to note that your comments do not contain any insult as a result of such.

Thank you once again Sir. :)
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Postby pitsilos » Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:45 am

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pitsilos wrote:Miltiades, can you provide any figures from before the invasion of iraq as to how many suiside bombers existed or the human rights violation that the US was more than willing to endorse as long as saddam said how high when the yanks said jump?

I don't know as to why you seemed to defend the yanks when you know that the relationship with the US is based on an exclusive basis on a one way stream...

Iraqi history didn't just start with 2003 mate...

Lets look at Afganistan...what more have the yanks achieved than the russians?...just remember, kabul is only the capital...yeah they secured the capital...its a fucking joke...i wonder what wikinews have to say about the heroin production before the invasion versus to after the invasion...look it up...

you see a pattern here? yanks and their fucking neocon thinking....

Pitsilos , before 2003 the killings were done by Sadam , a lot more killings than since 2003 .
As you know , and as everyone on this forum knows by now , is that I'm a staunch supporter of the USA and in general of the Western world democracies and cultures. No one in their right mind would condone the killings of innocent people regardless of their ethnicity.
The USA , following 9/11 had a duty to its citizens and to the world of nations that are democratic and peace loving , to take action against the perpetrators of this horrendous attack and action against those nations that encouraged and subsidised the export of terror to the Western world. Afghanistan was a legitimate target if only to remove the Taliban regime .
Iraq was considered to have been in possession of WOMD , as it transpired no such weapons were found , and many in the West are highly critical of the American and British involvement in removing Sadam and in their efforts to install a democratic government made up of Iraqis. The people of Iraq want a democratic government they proved this by casting their votes in their free elections and against intimidation by the Al Qaeda terrorists. Until the Iraqi government assumes total control and until the insurgents are defeated , the Americans no doubt will remain in Iraq at the request of the elected Iraqi government. What annoys me so much is Cypriots who instead of looking after the interests of our nation they arbitrarily condemn the USA and blame all that is horrendously wrong in Iraq on the shoulders of America. Lets not forget the thousands of Shiites and Kurds gassed by Sadam , this will not now happen if only the savage barbarians gave peace a chance.


What annoys me so much is Cypriots who instead of looking after the interests of our nation they arbitrarily condemn the USA and blame all that is horrendously wrong in Iraq on the shoulders of America

Miltiades I am amazed you made such a comment?...who else we gonna blame?...the martians?...sorry they weren't part of the coalition of the willing... :lol: ofcource the problems that are created rest squarely on the US shoulders

Lets not forget the thousands of Shiites and Kurds gassed by Sadam , this will not now happen if only the savage barbarians gave peace a chance.

and lets not forget that during all this gassing, Iraq was a close ally of the US...and that it went under their noses...and that the US propably supplied the gasses...as rumsfeld once said when he first met saddam, today i made a new friend
well again credibility, morals and democrasy out the window

ah and the turkey thing...yes the relationship is that of the pimp and the whore...the unfortunate problem for turkey is that whores seemed to come with expiry date, regardless of how much money they made for the pimp...I hear there is big airbase near completion in the newly anounced kurdistan...somehow I don't think the US is leaving the area and leaving the oil behind as this was their primary objective in the first place....they are instead getting closer...

Also Miltiades, you seemed to overlook the post about the annan plan and how the facilitator, faciliated us...any thoughts as to why the a great exporter of democrasy refuses to do as she preaches?

Miltiades, before you label me a commie bastard, let me tell you I vote green everytime, coz I realise that the only time my vote counts is when is actually counted and not lost through the blah blah mainstream parties....so please save me the commie label :lol:
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:19 pm

karma wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:GG: These lines I think are from the great nationalist poet/writer Namik Kemal:
I think Zan or BigOz can give you a good poetic translation. I am afraid it is only one line.:


MEDENIYET DEDIGIN, BIR NEVI CANAVAR.


These lines must have been written with the USA in mind. They can keep there 'civilisation' if that is what it costs.
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:shock: :shock:

Denizzzzzzzzzzzz

it is not Namik Kemal, it is Mehmet Akif !! lol
and it is

''Medeniyet dedigin tek disi kalmis canavar''

but dont expect me to translate it, coz my english is not better than ur chinese... :oops:

Let Zan or BirKibrisli do it :)


Difficult to translate a sentense out of context but....
"What you call Civilisation is a toothless monster" comes close to it...


This thread is too depressing people,give it a rest please...
Even Blind Freddie can now see that American intervention in Iraq has only served to strengthen Al-Qaida and the resolve of some Islamic Fanatics to carry out more acts of terrorism...It has been a senseless bloodbath,a totally lunatic act of barbarism equal to that of the 9/11 terrorists...I hope the world has learned this one lesson: that you don't curb acts of terrorism by becoming a terrorist yourself... :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:31 pm

You are right there Bir Kibrisli
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Postby mad-dog » Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:38 pm

[quote="
..This thread is too depressing people,give it a rest please.
Even Blind Freddie can now see that American intervention in Iraq has only served to strengthen Al-Qaida and the resolve of some Islamic Fanatics to carry out more acts of terrorism...It has been a senseless bloodbath,a totally lunatic act of barbarism equal to that of the 9/11 terrorists...I hope the world has learned this one lesson: that you don't curb acts of terrorism by becoming a terrorist yourself... :cry: :cry: :cry:[/quote]

you say "This thread is too depressing people,give it a rest please."
then you go on and make another point i think you need to look in the mirror before you preach
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Postby Exorcist-seeker » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:17 pm

George W Bush is a prophet of god, He had been sent by the almighty to clean and rid the world of the bad races and the 'Devil Worshipping' people

God bless G W Bush.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:23 pm

Exorcist-seeker wrote:George W Bush is a prophet of god, He had been sent by the almighty to clean and rid the world of the bad races and the 'Devil Worshipping' people

God bless G W Bush.

Let me guess... you're an old fart living in a council flat in miserable London with plenty of time in his hands and desperate for any attention!
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Postby Eliko » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:23 pm

Exorcist-seeker, :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Exorcist-seeker » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:42 pm

Get_Real.. Mohamed was proclaimed to be a Prophet of Alla, and he fought wars to spread the Islamic Religion now he is praised 4 what he did, and ppl all over the world who are muslims quote many things he said..


G W Bush is fighting wars to spread christianity..... Are these 2 men so different??
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:46 pm

Exorcist-seeker wrote:G W Bush is fighting wars to spread christianity..... Are these 2 men so different??

Are you implying that G.Bush is acting on behalf of Jesus Christ?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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