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[denizaksulu]

Hi all. Arguing about how many poor souls were killed and who knows the truth reminds me of the victims of the Jewish Holocaust. It began as two million, then leaped to four the other day it was 6 million Jews alone. No one can be sure of any exact figures. Each source will have its own agenda. Each of us will find our own sources and quote them as the gospel truth. The fact is whatever the number, it is too much. From what I can guestimate it might even be higher that what Get Real quoted. Lets not be too hasty on the subject. We all know 'the first casualty of war, dont we? Its the 'TRUTH". After all that is said it might be even fewer that GRs assertion. Then we all are the innocent victims of 'body counters'. One innocent 'dead' is too many.
In thirty years time more correct figures might turn up to be much higher. I hope not.
Regards
DA

[halil]

Btw, I was an infantry sergeant and still a reservist; I've got a lovely G3 automatic and a couple of hundred rounds of ammo in my cupboard because we keep them at home!, but as I said before it's irrelevant to this issue. Trouble spots like Cyprus, Lebanon, Israel, etc, have firepower coming out of their ears! [/quote]

You see G_R what is differences between TC's site and your site.we don't carry guns in our homes. GC wants turkish troops to leave . guns in the reservists homes tell me how the TC's will feel safe and things will not happen again. It is shame on your leadership...... İF we solve the problem.who knows where will be those guns..... Are sure there will be no EOKA C thats way we need quarteens of the Turkish army.Do u know that we can't have single bullet in our homes.it is forbitten.....
GOD HELP US !!!!!!! ALLAHIM BİZE YARDIMCI OL !!!!!!

[Get Real!]

Btw, I was an infantry sergeant and still a reservist; I've got a lovely G3 automatic and a couple of hundred rounds of ammo in my cupboard because we keep them at home!, but as I said before it's irrelevant to this issue. Trouble spots like Cyprus, Lebanon, Israel, etc, have firepower coming out of their ears!

You see G_R what is differences between TC's site and your site.we don't carry guns in our homes. GC wants turkish troops to leave . guns in the reservists homes tell me how the TC's will feel safe and things will not happen again. It is shame on your leadership...... İF we solve the problem.who knows where will be those guns..... Are sure there will be no EOKA C thats way we need quarteens of the Turkish army.Do u know that we can't have single bullet in our homes.it is forbitten.....
GOD HELP US !!!!!!! ALLAHIM BİZE YARDIMCI OL !!!!!!

That's a lesson we learned from July 1974 when GC reservists rushing to defend Cyprus from the Turkish invasion were unable to find weapons in caches locked up or stolen during the coup etc. Now every reservist can transform from civilian to soldier in about 10 minutes by keeping all his gear at home in a secure place. Think of how much time can be saved for battle readiness.

[oranos64]

HALIL ...TC ..YOU HAVE 40000 TROOPS AND AIRCRAFT ...SOUTH DOES NOT ...IF WE WERE TO GO TO WAR ...(NO CHANCE) THE BATTLES WOULD BE IN THE STREETS HOUSE TO HOUSE ,ROAD TO ROAD ...

YOU HAVE 1.2 MIL SOLDIERS ... WE HAVE 300000 AT BEST ...OF WHOMM 25% WOULD BE YELLOW

MOST JEWISH MEN HAVE GUNS AT HOME ...MOST OF THE FREE WORLD IS ARMED

IF THE TWO SIDES WERE TO GO TO WAR ...IT WOULD BE WITH E.U APPROVAL AND THAT TAKES 3 DAYS ...SO MOST WILL BE AT HOME AND DEFEND FROM HOME

JUSTFIED I THINK

[halil]

Btw, I was an infantry sergeant and still a reservist; I've got a lovely G3 automatic and a couple of hundred rounds of ammo in my cupboard because we keep them at home!, but as I said before it's irrelevant to this issue. Trouble spots like Cyprus, Lebanon, Israel, etc, have firepower coming out of their ears!

You see G_R what is differences between TC's site and your site.we don't carry guns in our homes. GC wants turkish troops to leave . guns in the reservists homes tell me how the TC's will feel safe and things will not happen again. It is shame on your leadership...... İF we solve the problem.who knows where will be those guns..... Are sure there will be no EOKA C thats way we need quarteens of the Turkish army.Do u know that we can't have single bullet in our homes.it is forbitten.....
GOD HELP US !!!!!!! ALLAHIM BİZE YARDIMCI OL !!!!!!

That's a lesson we learned from July 1974 when GC reservists rushing to defend Cyprus from the Turkish invasion were unable to find weapons in caches locked up or stolen during the coup etc. Now every reservist can transform from civilian to soldier in about 10 minutes by keeping all his gear at home in a secure place. Think of how much time can be saved for battle readiness.

My dear friend still u are talking about war.....by keeping all those guns does not help for peace..... everytime u remmerber it.i can not understand your point.we are talking about moderinesed turkish army.With G3 ruffle what u can do.it is only good for brainwashing.... nothing else..... we don't need those guns in our houses...... try to teach our childern how they can live next to eachother.as long as they see those guns think about those kids.....

by the way DT has got nice doughter...... lets have a talk nice things. İ will call her BARIŞ....... hopefully she will bring the BARIŞ very soon to Cyprus.

[Eliko]

denizaksulu, there can be no doubt that the initial founding of the state of Israel was a grave injustice to the Arab population, at that time, the Arabs were far less advanced than they are today.

Israel has not been popular for decades but has been backed by Western powers since it's conception.

It could be that the 'Root Causes' of all the conflicts in the region stem from the same source, I do not know, THAT is why I invited members to make suggestions, I must say my hopes for some enlightenment on the subject have suffered some abatement in their expectations.

I do take your point, political chicanery once again I suspect. Best Wishes.

We got as far as this and then went 'off topic' somehow, guns seem to be bristling under the beds etc, I doubt if all the fighting talk is called for, we are only discussing a simple point after all, really folks !.

[miltiades]

Btw, I was an infantry sergeant and still a reservist; I've got a lovely G3 automatic and a couple of hundred rounds of ammo in my cupboard because we keep them at home!, but as I said before it's irrelevant to this issue. Trouble spots like Cyprus, Lebanon, Israel, etc, have firepower coming out of their ears!

You see G_R what is differences between TC's site and your site.we don't carry guns in our homes. GC wants turkish troops to leave . guns in the reservists homes tell me how the TC's will feel safe and things will not happen again. It is shame on your leadership...... İF we solve the problem.who knows where will be those guns..... Are sure there will be no EOKA C thats way we need quarteens of the Turkish army.Do u know that we can't have single bullet in our homes.it is forbitten.....
GOD HELP US !!!!!!! ALLAHIM BİZE YARDIMCI OL !!!!!![/quote]

Correction Halil. GR does not represent the opinions of all Cypriots .

[Viewpoint]

Btw, I was an infantry sergeant and still a reservist; I've got a lovely G3 automatic and a couple of hundred rounds of ammo in my cupboard because we keep them at home!, but as I said before it's irrelevant to this issue. Trouble spots like Cyprus, Lebanon, Israel, etc, have firepower coming out of their ears!

You see G_R what is differences between TC's site and your site.we don't carry guns in our homes. GC wants turkish troops to leave . guns in the reservists homes tell me how the TC's will feel safe and things will not happen again. It is shame on your leadership...... İF we solve the problem.who knows where will be those guns..... Are sure there will be no EOKA C thats way we need quarteens of the Turkish army.Do u know that we can't have single bullet in our homes.it is forbitten.....
GOD HELP US !!!!!!! ALLAHIM BİZE YARDIMCI OL !!!!!!

Correction Halil. GR does not represent the opinions of all Cypriots .[/quote]


You are probably not aware that GC reservisits also keep dismantled guns and amunition at home, the serial numbers are registered with army and controlled every so often to ensure they have not been used and kept for times of war to kill TCs. Not as white as you think.

[Get Real!]

Btw, I was an infantry sergeant and still a reservist; I've got a lovely G3 automatic and a couple of hundred rounds of ammo in my cupboard because we keep them at home!, but as I said before it's irrelevant to this issue. Trouble spots like Cyprus, Lebanon, Israel, etc, have firepower coming out of their ears!

You see G_R what is differences between TC's site and your site.we don't carry guns in our homes. GC wants turkish troops to leave . guns in the reservists homes tell me how the TC's will feel safe and things will not happen again. It is shame on your leadership...... İF we solve the problem.who knows where will be those guns..... Are sure there will be no EOKA C thats way we need quarteens of the Turkish army.Do u know that we can't have single bullet in our homes.it is forbitten.....
GOD HELP US !!!!!!! ALLAHIM BİZE YARDIMCI OL !!!!!!

Correction Halil. GR does not represent the opinions of all Cypriots .

I didn't state an opinion here but gave simple facts.

[Get Real!]

You are probably not aware that GC reservisits also keep dismantled guns and amunition at home, the serial numbers are registered with army and controlled every so often to ensure they have not been used and kept for times of war to kill TCs. Not as white as you think.

That's a "convenient" way of putting it VP so now please explain my "convenient" question of why TC's do a military service... to kiss and make up with the GC's?