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[miltiades]

Southerner , I would not waste any more of my time with this Jihadi sympathiser . In Iraq the last 48 hours almost 200 Iraqis lost their lives as a result of suicide bombers , and yet this individual still supports this "ill-equipped population "" the reason he can not see further than his nose , is that he himself is an ardent supporter of anyone that inflicts damage to the USA , Brittain or any other Western target. He hides behind the veil of educational charisma that he no doubt possesses to which I again say what a waste.

[Southerner]

miltiades I am curious to find where according to Muslims the demarcation line is between Muslims killing Muslims on a daily basis, and the coalition forces working with the elected government of Iraq.
The latest of these Muslim attrocities has killed upwards of 200 and injured hundreds more muslims, they are not attacking the coalition forces; they are attacking civillians, Muslims going about their daily bussiness!
Even the attacking of the coalition is not carried out by the majority but on the orders of Muslim religious leaders people such Sadra (excuse spelling) in control of his so called militia, this is a missuse of the term they are terrorists, the miltia is a term used to describe civillians assisting the regular armed forces, similar to our own Terretorial Army.
It would seem as if we must conveniently foreget how many Muslims are doing the murdering but blow up out of proportion anyhting that the coalition do.

[Get Real!]

The point is Eliko you give the impressiion that you do by constantly turning to the coalition who have actualy killed but a small fraction compared to Saddam followed by the suicide bobmbers,..

One of these days you’re just going to have to realize that a professional musician can only grasp so much because you are obviously unable to comprehend the difference between 5kg or 10kg of explosives that can be carried by a suicide bomber compared to a 500lbs, 1000lbs, or 3000lbs bomb fired or dropped by a machine.

To date there are some 650,000 Iraqis dead (men, women, and children) ever since the US/UK saw fit to invade and occupy their country so any notion that most of these died as a result of suicide bombers is absurd. Here’s the basic arithmetic which I hope a musician turned political analyst can comprehend:

Let’s assume that suicide bombers began their “work” from day one of the US/UK invasion. (Laughable but for the sake of the argument…)

5 years x 365 days = 1825 days

Now I will pretend that every single day 50 Iraqis died by a suicide bomber! (Again laughable but for people like you we need to take you back to kindergarten…)

1825 days x 50 dead = 91,250 bodies

Now let’s extract the “suicide bomber” deaths from the total deaths…

650,000 deaths - 91,250 = 558,750 unaccounted for!

Now what do you suppose happened to these 558,750 dead people?

Were you playing your guitar in Baghdad and they committed suicide?

Now do yourself a favor and stop making a total fool of yourself by refraining from posting rubbish about something YOU CLEARLY DO NOT KNOW.

[Eliko]

Southerner, you do raise some interesting points, I do not see the signficance in your remark about the Israeli's 'knocking a few heads together', I really think the 'knocking ' is rather more severe than that !.

As to Saddam's reign in Iraq, he was undoubtedly a leader under whose authority I would not have been happy to live, I am not an Iraqi, I am not of the Eastern culture, therefore I am not qualified to assess what those who ARE may think, I can only say that prior to his overthrow, I visited many Iraqi's and did not find them to be as 'anti' as we were led to believe they were by our media.

As a matter of fact, there was an enormous amount of support for Saddam among his countrymen, I think that also is a matter for them to decide.

As to your reference to 'Outlawed Weapons', they were only outlawed because the West had developed superior armaments, the same weapons were in common use prior to the banning of them, much money was made from the distribution of them BEFORE they were outlawed (By the West), perhaps another reason for the resentment that has grown in the Eastern nations.

Saddam is now gone, he was a man who posed a serious threat, NOT to the world as a military force but as a witness to the TRUTH behind the political chicanery that dictates the course of world events.

You will no doubt notice that you have secured an ally in miltiades, he is a man incapable of understanding most of what is written, humour him, I think he has difficulty in accepting anyones opinion, other than his own.

I am pleased to have exchanged some views with you, my main purpose in raising this subject was to perhaps gain some understanding of the reasons for all the disharmony in the world, sensible polite exchanges may well furnish the answers, thank you.

[Eliko]

GetReal, I think that your post is an excellent analysis, well done, wish I had thought of that one.

[Eliko]

miltiades, WE ALL KNOW WHAT YOU CONDEMN UNRESERVEDLY, you have rammed it down our throats MANY TIMES and I have told you often enough, I AGREE with you.

I do not approve of bus bombs etc, I don't suppose anyone else does either, do you think it makes you somehow 'SPECIAL' because YOU don't ?.

The fact that I wish to examine the reasons for these events, does not make me one of the perpetrators, it does not make me a sympathiser, it does not mean that I feel joy when I hear of a new attrocity.

Those are all YOUR interpretations of what you extract from my posts.

You are unable to digest the contents of them since you are blinded by your inflexible assessments of what is right and what is wrong, that attitude is NEGATIVE since it can lead NOWHERE.

I have never stated that I hate everything Western, American or other, I have only ever indicated my abhorrence for the actions and conduct of the West, IN COMPARISON to those I have experienced in the East.

I do not like to resort to insult and/or abusive language, it is unnecessary and basically ignorant, quite unacceptable to a decent clean living person such as I consider myself to be.

Please READ my posts, look for the meaning of them, I feel that you are trying to annoy me with your retorts, I must tell you, you will not succeed for I am above them Sir.

[Eliko]

Southerner , I would not waste any more of my time with this Jihadi sympathiser . In Iraq the last 48 hours almost 200 Iraqis lost their lives as a result of suicide bombers , and yet this individual still supports this "ill-equipped population "" the reason he can not see further than his nose , is that he himself is an ardent supporter of anyone that inflicts damage to the USA , Brittain or any other Western target. He hides behind the veil of educational charisma that he no doubt possesses to which I again say what a waste.

miltiades, the mere fact that you can respond to the post above,in such a manner as you have, is proof positive that YOU are the idiot you suggest others are.

[Southerner]

One of these days you’re just going to have to realize that a professional musician can only grasp so much because you are obviously unable to comprehend the difference between 5kg or 10kg of explosives that can be carried by a suicide bomber compared to a 500lbs, 1000lbs, or 3000lbs bomb fired or dropped by a machine.To .

Get Real can you pease give me a rundown of your military back ground

[Get Real!]

One of these days you’re just going to have to realize that a professional musician can only grasp so much because you are obviously unable to comprehend the difference between 5kg or 10kg of explosives that can be carried by a suicide bomber compared to a 500lbs, 1000lbs, or 3000lbs bomb fired or dropped by a machine.To .

Get Real can you pease give me a rundown of your military back ground

Although pretty much all the males in Cyprus have a military background due to an obligatory military service, this issue is really one of common sense.

[Southerner]

Although pretty much all the males in Cyprus have a military background due to an obligatory military service, this issue is really one of common sense.

As I thought no military background whatsoever. Typical Rebel without a clue
For your information I was a fully trained infantryman four years before I became a full time musician, I trained in many aspects of infantry warfare, too many to list here. I came just three points from qualifying as a marksman the very first time that I had a rifle put in my hands and at 19 I was the youngest member of my Battalion to ever take part in the international shooting championships at Bisley in the UK.
We certainly didn't jump out in the street, empty a full magazine from an AK47 at all and sundry.
The "650,000 Iraqis dead (men, women, and children)" is just propaganda for gullible, spineless, leftie tree huggers such as you. Go and shoot some sparrows and pickle them, you'll be ok they can't shoot back!