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Postby alexISS » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:33 pm

SN wrote: In fact i was supporting your right to be gay.Sometimes doing something out of pity for people like you ,constitutes a social service to the community,so dont be afraid i wont charge you, i promise i wont mention i f#ck you to other people 8)


:lol: :lol:
What you did was offer gay sex services without being asked to :lol: . You can label it "social service" or anything else you want, I won't judge you. Be proud of what you are.
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Postby DT. » Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:13 pm

SN wrote:
DT. wrote:
SN wrote:
DT. wrote:
SN wrote:
Piratis wrote: 1.What is the point? That you personally don't care about Cyprus, and therefore if Cyprus is attacked you wouldn't want Greece to support us?



2.This couldn't be further than the truth. About Cyprus who decides are Cypriots.



1.Yes,that is exactly what i am saying.Why should Greece be legally obligated to military intervention in Cyprus?That only deepens the divitions that is caused to the Greek Cypriot society.

I might accept help on humanitarian bases(food,medical help etc) considering Cyprus is an ally in the EU and NATO.That is all Greece should be eligible to offer.The same off course goes for Turkey.

But the main issue for me personally is not Cyprus but Greece.I dont see why a Greek citizen should be obligated to offer assistance to an independend sovereign country???Why should i be obligated to go to war protecting something that has nothing to do with the sovereign interests of Greece???I mean give me a credible reason....just one.What do I have to do with Cyprus?Or what does a Turkish citizen have to do with Cyprus???


2. RoC needs Greece.It is only normal a small country to be politically dependant on its ''protector''.So yes,the Cypriots might have a saying on whom they elect but i doubt it that they have a saying on what is really going on in RoC.Greece does,it is my firm belief that if Greece doesnt abandon its colonialism pocilies then the Cypriots would continue to suffer and live in a divided island.


Had you said that you'de be happy for a mutual withdrew of gaurantees from both turkey and greece only then i'd be agreeing with you. Unfortunately you've said you' accept a unilateral withdrawal of just greece even if turkey remains. This to me is a cop out and betrayal.

Secondly, there is absolutely no chance that anything that gets done here has been decided to by greece. The tpap govt if its done one thing is prove to the world how a cypriot govt can run its own policies and continue to piss Greece and its gently-gently diplomacy policy its trying to follow.

Karamanlis and Bakoyianni have been placed ina difficult position in the EU many times the past 4 years due to Cyprus's actions.

Thirdly, Cyprus is not in NATO.


About Nato i only assumed its normal an EU country to be a Nato member,i was mistaken as i said previously.

I said that my personal opinion is Greece's unilateral withdrawal as a guarantator.Yet that is very very complicated.I was reading the final draft of the Annan Plan yesterday and i see how complicated things are.None the less i would like to see Greece out of this mess,i am voicing my arguments as a Greek citizen.It has nothing to do with ethnic origin,nationality,motherland etc.Hopefully in Turkey there would be similar voices.

I dont believe what you say about Papadopoulos and Greece not interfering.Greece never said in a str8forward way Yes to the plan.It said it is a good chance but ultimately the GC would decide.I believe Greece dictated a few stuff to Papadopoulos.The same way that i believe that it will happen if Turkey ever gets in the EU.Greece will be saying OK we want Turkey to the EU but at the same time they will say that Cyprus has the right to veto them.I believe Greece will only ''save face'' by saying to Cyprus not to veto Turkey(if there isnt reunification of the Island by then) but ultimately if the Cyprus issue is not settled in Greece's favor,Greece will be more than happy to let Cyprus veto Turkey,thus blackmailing it.

Anyway Greece one way or another interferes,that is my point.I dont want this bullshit to continue.Complete neutrality even unilateraly i say as a Greek citizen.


You see SN its your careless choice of words that gets everyones back up. In your attempt to emphasise a pooint you take the description to the extreme in the hope that someone understand how frustrated you feel about this issue. Take for example your choice of words 2 posts ago

So yes,the Cypriots might have a saying on whom they elect but i doubt it that they have a saying on what is really going on in RoC.Greece does


and com,pare with your words 1 post ago


I believe Greece dictated a few stuff to Papadopoulos


theres a bit of a difference between the 2.



I said it is not wise to play with one or two words.What i say is perfectly understood.You need about a 70IQ to get what i say.Besides i dont see a contradiction.

Yes Cypriots have a saying on whom they elect but Greece interferes and dictates stuff to Papadopoulos.Those stuff are the most crutial though...


oh well, if you're going to bring IQ into this then i lose hands down. From your posts so far i can see you are of a far superior intellect.
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Postby SN » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:21 am

alexISS wrote:
SN wrote: In fact i was supporting your right to be gay.Sometimes doing something out of pity for people like you ,constitutes a social service to the community,so dont be afraid i wont charge you, i promise i wont mention i f#ck you to other people 8)


:lol: :lol:
What you did was offer gay sex services without being asked to :lol: . You can label it "social service" or anything else you want, I won't judge you. Be proud of what you are.



In fact you were the first to imply something on a sexual level.I only responded on your craving about my dick,it wasnt hard to understand how desperate you are over it.As i said my offer still stands as i will be doing a social service.So maybe you should be proud of being gay.See?there are people who are willing to do society a favour :lol: :lol:
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Postby SN » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:23 am

DT. wrote:
SN wrote:
DT. wrote:
SN wrote:
DT. wrote:
SN wrote:
Piratis wrote: 1.What is the point? That you personally don't care about Cyprus, and therefore if Cyprus is attacked you wouldn't want Greece to support us?



2.This couldn't be further than the truth. About Cyprus who decides are Cypriots.



1.Yes,that is exactly what i am saying.Why should Greece be legally obligated to military intervention in Cyprus?That only deepens the divitions that is caused to the Greek Cypriot society.

I might accept help on humanitarian bases(food,medical help etc) considering Cyprus is an ally in the EU and NATO.That is all Greece should be eligible to offer.The same off course goes for Turkey.

But the main issue for me personally is not Cyprus but Greece.I dont see why a Greek citizen should be obligated to offer assistance to an independend sovereign country???Why should i be obligated to go to war protecting something that has nothing to do with the sovereign interests of Greece???I mean give me a credible reason....just one.What do I have to do with Cyprus?Or what does a Turkish citizen have to do with Cyprus???


2. RoC needs Greece.It is only normal a small country to be politically dependant on its ''protector''.So yes,the Cypriots might have a saying on whom they elect but i doubt it that they have a saying on what is really going on in RoC.Greece does,it is my firm belief that if Greece doesnt abandon its colonialism pocilies then the Cypriots would continue to suffer and live in a divided island.


Had you said that you'de be happy for a mutual withdrew of gaurantees from both turkey and greece only then i'd be agreeing with you. Unfortunately you've said you' accept a unilateral withdrawal of just greece even if turkey remains. This to me is a cop out and betrayal.

Secondly, there is absolutely no chance that anything that gets done here has been decided to by greece. The tpap govt if its done one thing is prove to the world how a cypriot govt can run its own policies and continue to piss Greece and its gently-gently diplomacy policy its trying to follow.

Karamanlis and Bakoyianni have been placed ina difficult position in the EU many times the past 4 years due to Cyprus's actions.

Thirdly, Cyprus is not in NATO.


About Nato i only assumed its normal an EU country to be a Nato member,i was mistaken as i said previously.

I said that my personal opinion is Greece's unilateral withdrawal as a guarantator.Yet that is very very complicated.I was reading the final draft of the Annan Plan yesterday and i see how complicated things are.None the less i would like to see Greece out of this mess,i am voicing my arguments as a Greek citizen.It has nothing to do with ethnic origin,nationality,motherland etc.Hopefully in Turkey there would be similar voices.

I dont believe what you say about Papadopoulos and Greece not interfering.Greece never said in a str8forward way Yes to the plan.It said it is a good chance but ultimately the GC would decide.I believe Greece dictated a few stuff to Papadopoulos.The same way that i believe that it will happen if Turkey ever gets in the EU.Greece will be saying OK we want Turkey to the EU but at the same time they will say that Cyprus has the right to veto them.I believe Greece will only ''save face'' by saying to Cyprus not to veto Turkey(if there isnt reunification of the Island by then) but ultimately if the Cyprus issue is not settled in Greece's favor,Greece will be more than happy to let Cyprus veto Turkey,thus blackmailing it.

Anyway Greece one way or another interferes,that is my point.I dont want this bullshit to continue.Complete neutrality even unilateraly i say as a Greek citizen.


You see SN its your careless choice of words that gets everyones back up. In your attempt to emphasise a pooint you take the description to the extreme in the hope that someone understand how frustrated you feel about this issue. Take for example your choice of words 2 posts ago

So yes,the Cypriots might have a saying on whom they elect but i doubt it that they have a saying on what is really going on in RoC.Greece does


and com,pare with your words 1 post ago


I believe Greece dictated a few stuff to Papadopoulos


theres a bit of a difference between the 2.



I said it is not wise to play with one or two words.What i say is perfectly understood.You need about a 70IQ to get what i say.Besides i dont see a contradiction.

Yes Cypriots have a saying on whom they elect but Greece interferes and dictates stuff to Papadopoulos.Those stuff are the most crutial though...


oh well, if you're going to bring IQ into this then i lose hands down. From your posts so far i can see you are of a far superior intellect.



Dont get defensive DT it wasnt directed against you the comment about the IQ.It was for the biggots to see.You seem ok.
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Postby alexISS » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:22 am

SN wrote:
alexISS wrote:
SN wrote: In fact i was supporting your right to be gay.Sometimes doing something out of pity for people like you ,constitutes a social service to the community,so dont be afraid i wont charge you, i promise i wont mention i f#ck you to other people 8)


:lol: :lol:
What you did was offer gay sex services without being asked to :lol: . You can label it "social service" or anything else you want, I won't judge you. Be proud of what you are.



In fact you were the first to imply something on a sexual level.I only responded on your craving about my dick,it wasnt hard to understand how desperate you are over it.As i said my offer still stands as i will be doing a social service.So maybe you should be proud of being gay.See?there are people who are willing to do society a favour :lol: :lol:


I'm sorry I have to break your heart, but you persist on a quest that will get you nowhere. I am not gay, please get over me :roll: .
Even if I was gay, I wouldn't be interested in you because not only you are an ugly sob, you are a minor too (judging from your posts you must me no more than 14) :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:03 am

[quote="alexISS"][quote="SN"][quote="alexISS"][quote="SN"]

While your traits,are class A?Take a hike,Alexis.

Go play your willy re-assuring your self that Greece is better than everyone else.Maybe that way,viagra wont be of importance to you.[/quote]

Ρε ΜΑΛ*ΚΑ μην πετάγεσαι συνέχεια σαν την π*ρδη. Ξέρω ότι σε τρώει ο κ*λος σου αλλά σταμάτα το ξύσιμο, δεν είναι αυτό που του λείπει και σε τρώει... :lol: :lol: :lol:[/quote]


Alexi if you are refering to your craving for my dick...well,you are welcome...i wont charge.Promise!!!!!![/quote]

While I totally support your right to be gay, I doubt you'll succeed in finding a mate in a political forum... but if you HAVE to try, avoid using the "free of charge" line, don't mix work with pleasure :lol: :lol:[/quote]


Moderator, Is there a GAY channel for these "gentlemen"? Perhaps they ought to be diverted!! :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Postby Svetlana » Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:18 am

Just get back On Topic, please.

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Postby DT. » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:22 pm

Svetlana wrote:Just get back On Topic, please.

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that showed 'em Lana....
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:13 pm

Since we are on the topic of "Boys Talk" on this thread, I have a question.

If Turkey was attacked from the REAR, would Greece help..??

(Play with the words for a minute, then it will come to you :wink: ).
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:29 pm

[quote="Kikapu"]Since we are on the topic of "Boys Talk" on this thread, I have a question.

If Turkey was attacked from the REAR, would Greece help..??

(Play with the words for a minute, then it will come to you :wink: ).[/quote]


I will keep it cleanKikapu. You dont mind, I hope.

Both Nato Partners, ok?
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